[CL]Arsenal vs Juventus (9 Viewers)

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Maresca

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NYJuve said:
Nobody could have great games 100% of the time.
Bremen doesn't count cuz he was already off-form.
And not casually Bayern and Milan (much worse case Bayern than Milan, IMO) were our only disappointing performances during the first half of the season. Right when Zlatan didn't play well. Is that a coincidence? Is that a coincidence that since he's off-form we've been playing like s*hit?
considering Zlatan of last season, would not you say that he has been off form the the whole season??
 

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giovanotti

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NYJuve said:
Nobody could have great games 100% of the time.
Bremen doesn't count cuz he was already off-form.
And not casually Bayern and Milan (much worse case Bayern than Milan, IMO) were our only disappointing performances during the first half of the season. Right when Zlatan didn't play well. Is that a coincidence? Is that a coincidence that since he's off-form we've been playing like s*hit?
I think it is a coincidence.
In that case,we could also say that we were better team while Abbiati was in the squad.
 

Donsazio

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GUYS PLEASE....we are juve fans....WE SHULD BE UNITED not argueing bout its his fault we've been playin kak....we all know there is no I in team, but if u fink about it....piero is the only one who can lift us up properly....especially now coz hes on form init!!!

FORZE PIERO :D:D:D
 

NYJuve

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Mar 15, 2006
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Maresca said:
considering Zlatan of last season, would not you say that he has been off form the the whole season??
Nope.
The only thing I would say is that he scored less and he's been off-form the last couple of months.
I loved the way Zlatan played till mid-January (Chievo's match).
Ask Trezeguet!
 

giovanotti

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Donsazio said:
GUYS PLEASE....we are juve fans....WE SHULD BE UNITED not argueing bout its his fault we've been playin kak....we all know there is no I in team, but if u fink about it....piero is the only one who can lift us up properly....especially now coz hes on form init!!!

FORZE PIERO :D:D:D
I agree,and I hope that Clara Hamilton thinks the same way!:D
 

NYJuve

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giovanotti said:
I think it is a coincidence.
In that case,we could also say that we were better team while Abbiati was in the squad.
Abbiati allowed less goals than Buffon not cuz he's better but cuz the team played much better, therefore we conceded much less to other teams.
 

Azzurri7

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NYJuve said:
I'm just being real.
Better get some milion $$ and save milion in salaries and get younger stars.
Now that they still have a market.
Or do we wanna do like Moratti with Inter??? Keeping Recoba with a 10m/year salary for having him play 2 matches/year?

I guess Juventus are already getting Enough millions of $$....Last time I checked he was 2nd most selling jersey in the world after Beckham(Ofcoarse in Football we're talking). Not to forget the advertisements and etc. You shouldn't worry about the cash. We're a big Club that can handle our Financial sitiuation and not turn into Fiorentina.


And Purleeeeeez...

How can you sell Juventus most loved and valuable player...?

How can you sell Juventus Icon and Legend????

How can you sell a player that has scored 192 goals so far for this Club???

How can you sell a player that has given soo much for the club and still giving??

How can you sell a player that can put his oppponents in his left pocket????

How and how and how and how........etc.

"You never sell a symbol for money".
 

giovanotti

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Azzurri7 said:
I guess Juventus are already getting Enough millions of $$....Last time I checked he was 2nd most selling jersey in the world after Beckham(Ofcoarse in Football we're talking). Not to forget the advertisements and etc. You shouldn't worry about the cash. We're a big Club that can handle our Financial sitiuation and not turn into Fiorentina.


And Purleeeeeez...

How can you sell Juventus most loved and valuable player...?

How can you sell Juventus Icon and Legend????

How can you sell a player that has scored 192 goals so far for this Club???

How can you sell a player that has given soo much for the club and still giving??

How can you sell a player that can put his oppponents in his left pocket????

How and how and how and how........etc.

"You never sell a symbol for money".
And now you're even more right!!!:agree: :agree: :agree:
 

Azzurri7

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vletrmx said:
i've read in some site (don't remember which) that dp has spent almost all the week in physio training alone. that' s all i know. and it scared me a little. i hope he'll recover in time

I doubt that.

As we didn't get any news about him training alone. Hopefully he's fit and nothing is wrong with him.
 

giovanotti

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NYJuve said:
Abbiati allowed less goals than Buffon not cuz he's better but cuz the team played much better, therefore we conceded much less to other teams.
So,we're one man team,a Zlatan-team.
I don't think so,I think that we are winning and earning points because we are collective!!!
 

vletrmx

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Mar 22, 2006
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about the ibra -dp issue: everytime i watch juve this season, when ibra is playing, juve is not playing. when dp comes to the pitch, doesn't matter if as a substitute, juve start playing and scoring goals. so i think it's quite clear who sould play in this game if we want to win. ibra can play against roma. in that game he should proove if he's worth playng in london.
 

NYJuve

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Azzurri7 said:
"You never sell a symbol for money".
Then I guess we'll buy the next Ronaldinho for a DP's jersey...
If somebody offers 10m for him, I'll personally drive him to his new team.

Sure he gave us a lot. He's a legend, I'm not denying that. I love him as a player and he's a great person too.
But is he willing to stay with a salary reduction and not in the starting 11?

Juve also gave him a lot, we started him when he didn't deserve it for at least 3 seasons. I never admitted it back then cuz my love for this player made my mind blind, but we shouldn't repeat the same mistakes. And this year he's 32.
 

NYJuve

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Maresca said:
yeah, the team is playing worse because Zlatan is off form..:disagree:
And cuz Vieira went out of gas.
I don't see any other explanation.

Unfortunately Capello set up this team counting on Zlatan's game.
When he's on form we play well, when he's off form I sometimes ask myself if Trezeguet is playing.
 

Azzurri7

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NYJuve said:
Then I guess we'll buy the next Ronaldinho for a DP's jersey...
If somebody offers 10m for him, I'll personally drive him to his new team.
You will, Juventus wont. Moggi wont. Juve Fans wont.


Sure he gave us a lot. He's a legend, I'm not denying that. I love him as a player and he's a great person too.
But is he willing to stay with a salary reduction and not in the starting 11?
I think the Club already reduced his salary....But then again, are YOU paying his wages??? Can't you sleep at night thinking how much $$$ he's earning?.....If you really think he's a legend, then do you really think he deserve this treatment? to sell him for some 10m after all???

Juve also gave him a lot, we started him when he didn't deserve it for at least 3 seasons. I never admitted it back then cuz my love for this player made my mind blind, but we shouldn't repeat the same mistakes. And this year he's 32.
Would you remind me when did he start when he didn't deserve it...would you???

are you talking about the year 03 when he was under Lippi and we had Micco and Di Vaio as Subs...oh yeah....what a players we had....

Remind me the 3seasons you're talking about.
 

Eire

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Mar 1, 2004
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i think for this game that zambro should be right back and try to look after henry if he drifts out right but still get forward himself. if henry plays up front on his own he usual drifts deep instead of out wide so maybe a man marking idea is out of the question.

cheillini should be left back because out of the others(balzeretti and zebina) cheillini is the best defensively.

camo is also good enough defensively he is tigerish and terrier like, while mutu is not the best defensively he will prob not give away as many silly frees as neddy, and imo mutu is better on the left wing than the right as for some reason his crosses with his weaker foot his left are better than his right footed ones while he also has the option to cut inside he has the speed and intelligenge to terrorise eboue who is inexperienced and likes to push forward a lot, i think mutu could be our highbury hero.

canna thuram and vieira and emerson need to be solid and mistake free although
people forget that vieira has quite a few assists this season for some nice goals.

then up front trez is a certainty, his absence is why juve lost to liverpool and fingers crossed he will stay injury free for the rest of the season and show juve fans what they missed last year.

then does the in form reliable influencial Del piero be his partner, or the inconsistant unpredictabel frustrating but occassionally magical ibra, its hard to know who will get the starting place.

i think capello gambles that ibra will play well as he knows Dp is great at comming on as a sub and changing the game something that zlatan cannot do as he will be in a sulk for being dropped in the first place.

plus more than any other team in europe juve capitalise on oppositions mistake so watch out gunners young guns esp, eboue flamini and senderos(if campbell is not back) and lehman who i recommend the juve players josal and bump int a lot at set pieces as he loses control of himself
 
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