As I thought that I had mentioned, but it appears that I didn't anywhere other than in my head when i was posting last night, i still call him van bauzen, because thats what he was always called on Pro Evolution, a game played by me and many others in england, on the playstation...I assumed it would be obvious who I was referring to. We always left Gullit as Guigu on the commentary, Kohler as Kolka...not because we didnt know their real names, but because the default commentary names were amusing. Guigu especially...