Ciro Ferrara (7 Viewers)
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I just don't get this whole appointment of Ciro. Obviously, you just can't appoint a coach without any experience. Usually, coaches like Ciro Ferrara have to do something really really good with another team in Serie A before taking charge of Juventus. Ex-players like Mancini for example had done some great results with smaller clubs before getting a top job. You can not expect everybody to turn out like Pep Guardiola.
I was thinking about the leadership amongst the players and especially on the field. Immediately my thoughts went back to Neddy. Even though his performances last season were not the best from effect wise against the opposition but you can't deny his effect on our own players. You don't have the player that gives everybody hell (everybody even alex and trezi at times) when they screw up. That voice that gets everybody in tact and in line has gone and Diego isn't filling that void from mental perspective.
Well your argument gets back to what Bozi was mentioning before. If the players think they are too big for the coach then they will not listen to his instructions. This is where the shared responsibility lies. Ciro is not getting everyone in line with his plans and the players don't have the tranquility to keep on with the plans set.
Last year most of our good results ( I said most because ranieri had a few tactical victories here and there) came from motivation and the players' perseverance, so compare that to what we have now where no passion is shown at all.
Well your argument gets back to what Bozi was mentioning before. If the players think they are too big for the coach then they will not listen to his instructions. This is where the shared responsibility lies. Ciro is not getting everyone in line with his plans and the players don't have the tranquility to keep on with the plans set.
Last year most of our good results ( I said most because ranieri had a few tactical victories here and there) came from motivation and the players' perseverance, so compare that to what we have now where no passion is shown at all.
Can we send him out on loan so he gets experience? Or maybe we can sell 50% of his contract to Bari or Siena. 
We haven`t lost to Siena yet so I guess we should stay optimistic
I just hope that this nightmare ends and when I wake up Football-Italia would have a big picture of Hiddink that says Juve sign Hiddink and sack Ferrara
Man, I'm sorry for Ciro and that he's been thrown into this. It's rather hit-and-miss when appointing a new manager, especially so when it's their first club and lack experience. It's worked out pretty well for Guardiola, and also for Alejandro Sabella over at Estudiantes, but not a good look for Ciro after a promising start. Gonna have to stick with him till the end of the season-at least.
It will be very difficult for Ciro to get this team back on track
I don't believe this is a matter of tactics or players he uses or doesn't use
I believe the problem is that apart from the 'old' guard none of the younger or foreign players really know what he actually meant for this club.
A Diego or Melo don't know who Ciro really was as a club man.
With them he has to deserve respect, that only comes with achievements.
He frankly doesn't have that and so he can't get their respect.
players like DP and Canna know him and they automatically respect him for his career. it comes easier for Ciro to get their attention
they already have a friendly relationship with him
he doesn't have that with let's say Chiellini
Ciro has to earn his respect by making him feel at ease
that is the problem as we have a coach with zero experience, it's all new for him as well
how is he supposed to make his players follow his lead when the road ahead is unknown for him
he is questionned all the time by his players while he is still looking for answers himself.
if a coach comes in like Hiddink our squad will surely exept his guideline because they know this is a man who has been there and has seen it all.
Our board were hoping our coach would bring us the same succes as that other coach did in his maiden year as a coach but Ciro really isn't Pep.
set aside the qualities of the team, Pep is a hard-ass coach who got everybody focused right from the start
in a way Ciro is like Ranieri, a nice guy but it's exactly that what keeps them from reaching the very top of football
a nice guy is fine to get a drink at the local pub but you'll never win a war with them.
I don't believe we have a clear idea of what might be going wrong with our board so I'm not going to comment on that
the 'only' responsible for this crisis is Ciro in my eyes
I wouldn't blame the players, sure they are underperforming but I believe a team is but as good as a coach makes them to be.
we all know each and anyone of them can play the game, they have shown that at Juve or another team some more then others that's a given
but don't tell me we don't have any quality players
it's the coach's job to make a winning team out of these individuals
and he's failing to do so
I would go for Hiddink but I believe that will be hard
Scolari would be next on my list even though he failed at Chelsea
I don't believe this is a matter of tactics or players he uses or doesn't use
I believe the problem is that apart from the 'old' guard none of the younger or foreign players really know what he actually meant for this club.
A Diego or Melo don't know who Ciro really was as a club man.
With them he has to deserve respect, that only comes with achievements.
He frankly doesn't have that and so he can't get their respect.
players like DP and Canna know him and they automatically respect him for his career. it comes easier for Ciro to get their attention
they already have a friendly relationship with him
he doesn't have that with let's say Chiellini
Ciro has to earn his respect by making him feel at ease
that is the problem as we have a coach with zero experience, it's all new for him as well
how is he supposed to make his players follow his lead when the road ahead is unknown for him
he is questionned all the time by his players while he is still looking for answers himself.
if a coach comes in like Hiddink our squad will surely exept his guideline because they know this is a man who has been there and has seen it all.
Our board were hoping our coach would bring us the same succes as that other coach did in his maiden year as a coach but Ciro really isn't Pep.
set aside the qualities of the team, Pep is a hard-ass coach who got everybody focused right from the start
in a way Ciro is like Ranieri, a nice guy but it's exactly that what keeps them from reaching the very top of football
a nice guy is fine to get a drink at the local pub but you'll never win a war with them.
I don't believe we have a clear idea of what might be going wrong with our board so I'm not going to comment on that
the 'only' responsible for this crisis is Ciro in my eyes
I wouldn't blame the players, sure they are underperforming but I believe a team is but as good as a coach makes them to be.
we all know each and anyone of them can play the game, they have shown that at Juve or another team some more then others that's a given
but don't tell me we don't have any quality players
it's the coach's job to make a winning team out of these individuals
and he's failing to do so
I would go for Hiddink but I believe that will be hard
Scolari would be next on my list even though he failed at Chelsea
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/SerieA/Juventus/21-12-2009/juve-fiducia-ferrara-602399946017.shtml
Board reassure Ferrara, but.. Two next games against Parma and ACM will be crucial for Ferrara. Two defeats may make the board to search for a new manager.
Bettega will discuss his terms in a few days and from January will return to Juve as a director.
Board reassure Ferrara, but.. Two next games against Parma and ACM will be crucial for Ferrara. Two defeats may make the board to search for a new manager.
Bettega will discuss his terms in a few days and from January will return to Juve as a director.
Juve offer Ferrara ultimatum
Monday 21 December, 2009
After an extraordinary meeting held in Turin the Juventus board have handed Ciro Ferrara an ultimatum.
Rumours following the meeting revealed that the Bianconeri boss will have two more games to prove his worth.
That means if the Old Lady lose against Milan his chance to remain in charge until June will be incredibly slim as the directors were split over his future.
The directors also discussed potential successors to Ferrara and Guus Hiddink remains the main candidate to the job.
Furthermore, the appointment of ex-director Roberto Bettega is close to being announced. Bettega will work in the backroom and will support struggling sporting director Alessio Secco as well as dealing with the dressing room issues.
There were also talks about potential transfers during the five-hour meeting but nothing was revealed regarding those issue.
Monday 21 December, 2009
After an extraordinary meeting held in Turin the Juventus board have handed Ciro Ferrara an ultimatum.
Rumours following the meeting revealed that the Bianconeri boss will have two more games to prove his worth.
That means if the Old Lady lose against Milan his chance to remain in charge until June will be incredibly slim as the directors were split over his future.
The directors also discussed potential successors to Ferrara and Guus Hiddink remains the main candidate to the job.
Furthermore, the appointment of ex-director Roberto Bettega is close to being announced. Bettega will work in the backroom and will support struggling sporting director Alessio Secco as well as dealing with the dressing room issues.
There were also talks about potential transfers during the five-hour meeting but nothing was revealed regarding those issue.
two crucial matches...no crucial matches, he'll stay forever. they said bayern is crucial, and bari is crucial, and yes, catania was crucial too. or maybe i don't understand the meaning of the word crucial. maybe, just maybe, the meaning is-:"a match that don't matter how it'll end, the coach will stay in his job"...
WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR???? why do we have to lose 2 more matches so he'll be fired??!!!??! the gap from inter is already nine points, so they want it to be 15??! and if they want to give him more time, why 2 matches??why not one??
we play like shirt from day 1, and they need more time and reasons to fire him...this management drive me insane!!!!!!! they're fucking unreasonable!! if ranieri was instead, he would have been fired after bayern
we play like shirt from day 1, and they need more time and reasons to fire him...this management drive me insane!!!!!!! they're fucking unreasonable!! if ranieri was instead, he would have been fired after bayern
Humiliated in the CL, humilated against Bari and losing to the worst team in the league at home, and he still gets to continue? Damn that Ciro is a lucky man.
They appoint him as a coach to get the Guardiola effect, when that doesn't work they don't fire him after cuz they're now waiting for the Leonardo effect. Copycats..
They appoint him as a coach to get the Guardiola effect, when that doesn't work they don't fire him after cuz they're now waiting for the Leonardo effect. Copycats..