Ciro Ferrara (46 Viewers)

Nov 1, 2002
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ferrara should change his tactics and let them play as a team i just hate the way they pass the ball forward to the strikers like its the last 5 mins and losing 1-0

they should pass the ball around often, they dont even know each other movements from this negative tactic, i believe if they play the ball around more they will start to build a style and start to find ways to attack.

playing the ball fast and forward needs to have pacey wingers.
 

V

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Jun 8, 2005
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Forget about Bilic people. Besides, I hava big doubts about him managing a club and of such stature as Juventus. He only has NT experience and there's a huge difference.
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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Forget about Bilic people. Besides, I hava big doubts about him managing a club and of such stature as Juventus. He only has NT experience and there's a huge difference.
True , i've based my opinion on him in he's work with the NT only and its always a risk.

Then the only option left IMO is hiddink and he's agent allready said that he turned down an option from us.

Let's watch how the management will handle this fucked up situation. Am not too optimistic....
 

Bozi

The Bozman
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Oct 18, 2005
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I'd like to propose a juventini quotient test for any fan to reflect on during these tough times:

Q #1: How would an 8-year-old ManU fanboy react should ManU lose 5 of 6 and get knocked out of the CL?

Q #2: Now how are you behaving any differently?

The answers to the above should say a lot about how we conduct ourselves.
:tup: it is rather sad to see how some posters regress to a child lie state in situations when Juve is **shock-horror** NOT WINNING. this is exactly the sort of thing we always derided Inter fans for,mocked Milan fans when they were up in arms at Leonardo's team earlier in the season.

god how THEY must be laughing when reading this now

The difference (for me anyway) is that United have Alex Ferguson as a coach and he's proven WC coach. We have Ciro who until now is a proven crap coach. Why would we not complain about Ciro when he has gotten us kicked out in the CL and we're basically losing to every team? Ciro has never before showed that he's a good coach and tbh its time for him to leave.
yes lets look at Sir Beetroot face,in the early days of his management career at Manure he was 1game away from the sack(an FA cup tie),he managed to win it and then won the FA cup,it would have been easy for him to walk away and it would have been easy for teh club to sack him.

we would be sitting here with Red telling you all about the greatest coach Aberdeen ever had and you lot would not have a clue who he was

Marceℓℓo;2280803 said:
I watched every single match.
forever? don't tell Elvin,he is the biggest fan the world ahs ever seen and NEVER misses a game

Our players last season we're playing against Ranieri toward the end of the season just before he's sack, thats just not right. Our players can't play like shit whenever they dislike the coach.

Everyone is responsible here, players should be professianals (its their job to give 100% in games) whether they like the coach or not.

What happens if we hired someone else in Ferrara's place and the players after a while didn't like the guy? They allready did that twice with ranieri and Ferrara (if you're right).

Thats where the management experience steps in.
exactly,if the players have stopped performing for a man that is a legend as a player,that is a friend to many and taht needs the help of the experienced pro's then it is not time to change management....it is time to clear out some of the players.

we seen it with Real Madrid,RAul,Carlos,Guti,etc did not like Del Bosque,they refused his training techniques,rebelled when dropped and staged a mutiny.....Del Bosque won them the CL and was sacked on teh back of "player power" it took a long time and a few coaches before Real realised their mistake...are we about to make the same one?

Inter spent years firing managers at the drop of a hat. It brought them nothing but instability and inconsistency until they were granted a few soft titles. Football fans are fickle, prone to knee-jerk actions, and it's bad business.
:tup: again top post

that would leave alot of openings which alot of our expert members here could apply for
:lol:


seriously though,if Ciro goes then i would love it if we brought in Hiddink,he is a man of great experience,plays attractive football and knows how to motivate players. however i fear that the problems are not symptomatic of a poor coach but a group of spoiled players who have forgotten what an honour it is to play for such a grand club and the responsibilities that come with wearing the jersey
 

Bozi

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Oct 18, 2005
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and for teh guys who constantly post lists of available coaches,i refuse to take you seriously when you continue to put Vialli on that list
 

v1rtu4l

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Mar 4, 2008
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we seen it with Real Madrid,RAul,Carlos,Guti,etc did not like Del Bosque,they refused his training techniques,rebelled when dropped and staged a mutiny.....Del Bosque won them the CL and was sacked on teh back of "player power" it took a long time and a few coaches before Real realised their mistake...are we about to make the same one?
yeah, exactly the same situation, just without us winning anything, us having a much inferior squad after the cleansing and a coach who would make it even harder to get new players, because no one wants to play under that n00b.
 

Bozi

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yeah, exactly the same situation, just without us winning anything, us having a much inferior squad after the cleansing and a coach who would make it even harder to get new players, because no one wants to play under that n00b.
you miss the point,after Real's players got rid of their first coach they had all the power and fucked their own chances of winning for a few years

the galacticos believed their own hype and thought that the coach just needed to be a patsy and they would win everything anyway,needless to say it failed. i fear we are heading teh same way,players who do not respect the coach,believe they are better than they really are and are sabotaging their own chances of success with their arrogance
 

v1rtu4l

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Mar 4, 2008
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ok, but in all honesty ... the only way to solve this is to put someone in front of the players who has already achieved something coaching-wise. its natural that they would not really listen to a n00b-coach like ferrara.

but who are these players?

diego ? surely not. he does give his all.
chiellini ? you can see that he fights until the end, too
camoranesi ? surely a candidate (he already showed often enough that it is ok for him to sit on the bench and earn the money without actually playing)
del piero ? i can not decide as of yet, but since he does not play... it might be not relevant
gigi ? i think he is a mature guy who only wants the best for the team and gives his all (no matter what coach we have).
melo ? he got his head screwed up and i dont know if that means he is arrogant or things he is better then the coach
grosso ? could be someone with that characteristics too. he just chose us for his last big contract before retirement.
amauri ? i think he is so pissed by the bad support he gets that you can not really evaluate his current displays as usual

what was i getting at ? ... aah, ok so i see only a few players that do fit that bill and the solution IS a change of coach for a better one. the situation of real madrid would fit to us, when we at least had a coach who knew a thing or two about football.
 

Bozi

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Oct 18, 2005
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or players who think they are world beaters but do not realise that they need coaching.

i am just putting this out there as there are rumours that the players have rebelled, last season under Ranieri we all seen it happen,it is not too far to stretch the imagination to think it could happen again.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
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:tup: it is rather sad to see how some posters regress to a child lie state in situations when Juve is **shock-horror** NOT WINNING. this is exactly the sort of thing we always derided Inter fans for,mocked Milan fans when they were up in arms at Leonardo's team earlier in the season.

god how THEY must be laughing when reading this now


yes lets look at Sir Beetroot face,in the early days of his management career at Manure he was 1game away from the sack(an FA cup tie),he managed to win it and then won the FA cup,it would have been easy for him to walk away and it would have been easy for teh club to sack him.

we would be sitting here with Red telling you all about the greatest coach Aberdeen ever had and you lot would not have a clue who he was


forever? don't tell Elvin,he is the biggest fan the world ahs ever seen and NEVER misses a game


exactly,if the players have stopped performing for a man that is a legend as a player,that is a friend to many and taht needs the help of the experienced pro's then it is not time to change management....it is time to clear out some of the players.

we seen it with Real Madrid,RAul,Carlos,Guti,etc did not like Del Bosque,they refused his training techniques,rebelled when dropped and staged a mutiny.....Del Bosque won them the CL and was sacked on teh back of "player power" it took a long time and a few coaches before Real realised their mistake...are we about to make the same one?


:tup: again top post


:lol:


seriously though,if Ciro goes then i would love it if we brought in Hiddink,he is a man of great experience,plays attractive football and knows how to motivate players. however i fear that the problems are not symptomatic of a poor coach but a group of spoiled players who have forgotten what an honour it is to play for such a grand club and the responsibilities that come with wearing the jersey
+rep buddy

It is so easy to blame the coach. Last night's game more than any other of the past few games showed me that this goes way deeper than the coach. We have some players that stopped caring about the team. Whether they have a gripe with the coach, the playing group or the media and fans. With that they forgot how important the shirt they wearing and got encompassed by their own "problems".

If the players last night didn't play up to their potential because of the coach, then fuck them all because they don't deserve to wear this shirt. Coach can have a certain effect on the team but at some point these men need to step up, something many did not do against Catania.
 

Mike-e-y

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Jul 18, 2004
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and for teh guys who constantly post lists of available coaches,i refuse to take you seriously when you continue to put Vialli on that list

I posted a list of available coaches, Vialli is an available coach. I'm not suggesting him for our managers job, infact i think he's a C### and if he ever got the managers job I would refuse to watch the games. There's nothing wrong with putting a list of names up, everyone is trying to think of who is available, and I want to know as well as I do not know the ins and outs of managers and their current locations
 

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