Ciro Ferrara (53 Viewers)
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Word.
For a change, I find a post on here both passionately rooted and intelligently composed. Good work, Mr Luftwaffles...
I can understand why it is hard for many of us to forget what Ciro have this club, as a player, but the time has come when we must be judging him SOLELY as a manager. Not as a Rookie Manager, nor a former Champion of our defence. Just as a Manager. On results. On performances. On acquisitions. On tactics.
I was very happy with our summer signings. Obviously, above all else, excited by Diego and Melo. Cannavaro and Grosso, were clearly stop-gap measures. but the brazilians, BOTH had just come off stellar seasons with Bremen and Fiorentina respectively. Melo should not need time to adjust to the style of football in Serie A. He was an ever present under Prandelli...And Diego, at Bremen, was more often than not, phenomenal...Both players have become a shadows of their former selves. And some of the blame for that, MUST, be placed on Ciro's desk.
Hindsight is an annoying process. I doubt there is one juventino who would now continue to support Ciro's appointment in the SUmmer. Yes, he did a fine job in the last two or three games, but i think much of the very sudden improvement in form came from the dark weight of Ranieri's boring, anemic management style being lifted from the shoulders of our players. COuld have been anyone. Nedved, or DP...just let them play, WITHOUT Ranieri.
But why keep looking back, its pointless. We must now look to the NOW and the near future.
Ciro has made us far worse, and far more easy to beat, than we were under Ranieri, with a more talented bunch of players. ( i think talent wise, Melo + Diego, the true versions of those players, adds more to a team, potentially, than is lost through Nedved's departure).
We are a shambles. An embarrassment. And we must surely be at a stage of crisis now, when the board room the owners, say ENOUGH. THIS CANNOT CONTiNUE...
After the horrorshow against Munchen, i think, at worst, we were expecting a hard fought slender victory over Bari. not a 3-1 defeat.
And as to the idiots using Almiron's performance as vindication of their ANTI Loan stance, they are more interested in themselves, than this club. Clearly. Too many ultra large egos in our ranks on these forums...too many I TOLD YOU SO goons. waving their own flag, not the black and white bandiera.
John Elkann, must now make the decision. Even if it involves telling Blanc...
'Ciro must go...if you are adamant that he will stay until the end of the season, then you can go also...'
The bottom line here, is that we have a squad, far more capable than what it has been showing for most of this season, especially the last few games. Blame the players, fine. But we can't sell all the players. Other than the players, its Ciro, who MUST be replaced.
I loved him as a player, but he is the worst Juventus manager i have seen in 20 years of supporting the club. Its reasonable to say 'he needs time'...but that time cannot be at Juve. It must be elsewhere. We are a winning team, historically, not a club where inexperienced managers who have had a few months to at least show a hint of talent, and have shown NOTHING, but an unwitting determination to destroy our club.
I can understand why it is hard for many of us to forget what Ciro have this club, as a player, but the time has come when we must be judging him SOLELY as a manager. Not as a Rookie Manager, nor a former Champion of our defence. Just as a Manager. On results. On performances. On acquisitions. On tactics.
I was very happy with our summer signings. Obviously, above all else, excited by Diego and Melo. Cannavaro and Grosso, were clearly stop-gap measures. but the brazilians, BOTH had just come off stellar seasons with Bremen and Fiorentina respectively. Melo should not need time to adjust to the style of football in Serie A. He was an ever present under Prandelli...And Diego, at Bremen, was more often than not, phenomenal...Both players have become a shadows of their former selves. And some of the blame for that, MUST, be placed on Ciro's desk.
Hindsight is an annoying process. I doubt there is one juventino who would now continue to support Ciro's appointment in the SUmmer. Yes, he did a fine job in the last two or three games, but i think much of the very sudden improvement in form came from the dark weight of Ranieri's boring, anemic management style being lifted from the shoulders of our players. COuld have been anyone. Nedved, or DP...just let them play, WITHOUT Ranieri.
But why keep looking back, its pointless. We must now look to the NOW and the near future.
Ciro has made us far worse, and far more easy to beat, than we were under Ranieri, with a more talented bunch of players. ( i think talent wise, Melo + Diego, the true versions of those players, adds more to a team, potentially, than is lost through Nedved's departure).
We are a shambles. An embarrassment. And we must surely be at a stage of crisis now, when the board room the owners, say ENOUGH. THIS CANNOT CONTiNUE...
After the horrorshow against Munchen, i think, at worst, we were expecting a hard fought slender victory over Bari. not a 3-1 defeat.
And as to the idiots using Almiron's performance as vindication of their ANTI Loan stance, they are more interested in themselves, than this club. Clearly. Too many ultra large egos in our ranks on these forums...too many I TOLD YOU SO goons. waving their own flag, not the black and white bandiera.
John Elkann, must now make the decision. Even if it involves telling Blanc...
'Ciro must go...if you are adamant that he will stay until the end of the season, then you can go also...'
The bottom line here, is that we have a squad, far more capable than what it has been showing for most of this season, especially the last few games. Blame the players, fine. But we can't sell all the players. Other than the players, its Ciro, who MUST be replaced.
I loved him as a player, but he is the worst Juventus manager i have seen in 20 years of supporting the club. Its reasonable to say 'he needs time'...but that time cannot be at Juve. It must be elsewhere. We are a winning team, historically, not a club where inexperienced managers who have had a few months to at least show a hint of talent, and have shown NOTHING, but an unwitting determination to destroy our club.
Ferreara is staying WTF !!
http://www.football-italia.net/dec13a.html
It looks like the Inter Milan victory is jeeping him alive
http://www.football-italia.net/dec13a.html
It looks like the Inter Milan victory is jeeping him alive
Blanc: We're the same team Sunday 13 December, 2009
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Juventus President Jean-Claude Blanc stands by Ciro Ferrara and reminds critics this is the best side they have had in years.
“It has only been a week since we beat Inter. Such an achievement should be embraced, even if we do have trouble against the likes of Bari the following weekend” he said after the 3-1 defeat to Bari.
“If Juve opened up the Scudetto race a week ago then it means they have the quality to achieve great things. What we lack is consistency and efficiency in front of goal, plus great strikers like Cristiano Ronaldo."
“For now fans should be content with the win over Inter, looking forward to our Champions League campaign next year.
“It’s not in the history of Juventus to change management, even if I proved differently a few months ago. The team is in my control. Ferrara is the Coach of the future and we will continue working with him to build the team for the next decade.”
Yet Blanc is the man who sacked Claudio Ranieri towards the end of last season and brought in Ferrara for their third tactician in as many years.
“Deschamps decided to walk away and it was his choice, not ours. We fired Ranieri and it was a decision we had to take in order to finish in the top two. We thought Ferrara would have learned a lot under Deschamps and Ranieri.”
It was still 2-1 at the Stadio San Nicola when big summer signing Diego ballooned a spot-kick over the bar.
“We had many opportunities, the ball didn’t go in and missing the penalty changed the game in my view. I think if that spot-kick had gone in, the match would’ve ended in a very different way, perhaps to a score of 3-2 for Bari.
“Important transfers can take a while to settle in, as seen with Tiago. After a couple years of poor form, it is nice to see him playing world class football again.”
Football Italia
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Juventus President Jean-Claude Blanc stands by Ciro Ferrara and reminds critics this is the best side they have had in years.
“It has only been a week since we beat Inter. Such an achievement should be embraced, even if we do have trouble against the likes of Bari the following weekend” he said after the 3-1 defeat to Bari.
“If Juve opened up the Scudetto race a week ago then it means they have the quality to achieve great things. What we lack is consistency and efficiency in front of goal, plus great strikers like Cristiano Ronaldo."
“For now fans should be content with the win over Inter, looking forward to our Champions League campaign next year.
“It’s not in the history of Juventus to change management, even if I proved differently a few months ago. The team is in my control. Ferrara is the Coach of the future and we will continue working with him to build the team for the next decade.”
Yet Blanc is the man who sacked Claudio Ranieri towards the end of last season and brought in Ferrara for their third tactician in as many years.
“Deschamps decided to walk away and it was his choice, not ours. We fired Ranieri and it was a decision we had to take in order to finish in the top two. We thought Ferrara would have learned a lot under Deschamps and Ranieri.”
It was still 2-1 at the Stadio San Nicola when big summer signing Diego ballooned a spot-kick over the bar.
“We had many opportunities, the ball didn’t go in and missing the penalty changed the game in my view. I think if that spot-kick had gone in, the match would’ve ended in a very different way, perhaps to a score of 3-2 for Bari.
“Important transfers can take a while to settle in, as seen with Tiago. After a couple years of poor form, it is nice to see him playing world class football again.”
Football Italia
