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Ahmed

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Blog: Only time will tell

Ciro Ferrara’s coaching ability is being questioned after some dodgy performances and results, but Antonio Labbate defends the Juventus boss
We, the Italian football viewing public that is, can criticise Ciro Ferrara. It’s part of the job, for us and him, and was ever since he took charge of his first training session as Juventus boss. What we can’t do, at this stage of the new campaign or indeed his career, is judge him.

Palermo President Maurizio Zamparini may think 13 games is enough to understand that Walter Zenga hasn’t the tactical nous to boss his beloved Rosanero, but 20 games which have delivered 12 victories and five draws is not enough to give an accurate indication of whether Ferrara will turn out to be a great tactician, a disastrous gamble or anything in between.

A questionable appointment given his lack of experience – no experience in fact – the likeable Ciro has understandably made mistakes. But surely that was to be expected even by those Juventus fans who are incredibly calling for his head after defeat to Bordeaux in midweek.

It was a poor display from a Bianconeri side which still has no tactical identity. The departure of Claudio Ranieri and the arrival of Diego meant that Juventus, after years of 4-4-2, had to find a new guise to accommodate the expensive summer recruit from Werder Bremen.

That would be hard enough for any tactician, never mind Ferrara, and what has followed can be described as tactical confusion as the side has drifted from a 4-3-1-2 to a 4-2-3-1 as the boss looks to give his team a persona, one that they are still looking for.

Ferrara is clearly responsible for that, but you can comprehend why he has played around. He clearly has personnel problems in terms of individual form and injuries. Players such as Diego and Felipe Melo are taking their time to adapt, while fitness issues have robbed him of key figures.


He’s thus been forced to select a system based on the players he had available, rather than ask his players to fit into an established game plan – one that, for the moment, just doesn’t exist. And there is a key reason why we can’t judge Ferrara just yet and it revolves around his midfield.

If you’re going to play with a trequartista then there must be a certain amount of balance to the side. But how can we have expected Ferrara to find that when he has never been given a proper chance to field a midfield of Melo, Momo Sissoko and Claudio Marchisio?

Let’s wait until that trio are firing on all cylinders and indeed let us at least give Ferrara until the end of the campaign before expressing an opinion on his coaching grandeur.

After all, he’s been a Coach for a matter of months and has picked up 27 points from 13 League games this term – that’s just three shy of Marcello Lippi’s first Juve, a team that ended the campaign with seven losses and, admittedly, the Scudetto.


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only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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when ferrara was appointed, i thought that it is a begining of something new. so far he represents the same school of SLOW football.

we are slow and we aren´t even tactically good. as Dušan said a big NO to italian coaches. (of course there are exeptions).
Seriously guys open up you're brains. How many pacey players we have on this team ? (giovinco and maybe Caceres but he's an average player at best). Del piero, diego, Camo, Grosso, Amauri, trezeguet all those guys are pretty slow players some of them are faster than the others but still pretty slow. How do expect that team to play a pacey attractive football ?

Majority of those players Ferrara did not choose for he's team. From what we know he insisted on Grosso and D'Agostino in the summer. He had to work with what he got, do you guys expect him to work wonders with a team that he did not pick by himself ?!

We're still 2nd in the league and we have a pretty decent chance to qualify to the next round of the CL. Our performance is not that bad really, since we made the change in formation from 4-3-1-2 to 4-2-3-1 the team started creating more and more chances our worst game was against bordeaux and they're not some shitty team out there.
 

RAMI-N

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Aug 22, 2006
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Seriously guys open up you're brains. How many pacey players we have on this team ? (giovinco and maybe Caceres but he's an average player at best). Del piero, diego, Camo, Grosso, Amauri, trezeguet all those guys are pretty slow players some of them are faster than the others but still pretty slow. How do expect that team to play a pacey attractive football ?

Majority of those players Ferrara did not choose for he's team. From what we know he insisted on Grosso and D'Agostino in the summer. He had to work with what he got, do you guys expect him to work wonders with a team that he did not pick by himself ?!

We're still 2nd in the league and we have a pretty decent chance to qualify to the next round of the CL. Our performance is not that bad really, since we made the change in formation from 4-3-1-2 to 4-2-3-1 the team started creating more and more chances our worst game was against bordeaux and they're not some shitty team out there.
The most thinf that annoys me about Ferrara, that he doesn't have a B plan, plus the issue of Alex' position in the line up...
 

only-juve

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The most thinf that annoys me about Ferrara, that he doesn't have a B plan, plus the issue of Alex' position in the line up...
Honestly i don't think he has many choices, but still he tried at times to change formations and tactics during games. He wasn't that bad really even though he did some mistakes but thats understandable since its he's first ever season in management.

“I have to be optimistic, I have no choice.” :agree:
Be optimistic, we had similar situations before even under Lippi so this is certainly isn't the first time we struggle in the Group stage. I'm optimistic that things will get better later...
 

IrishZebra

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Jun 18, 2006
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I did understand you man...
What I meant is to have an alternative plan to that we start the game with.
we have to settle on a formation then we can look at what plan B we can use if it doesn't work. At this point we don't know what we start the game with.
Be optimistic, we had similar situations before even under Lippi so this is certainly isn't the first time we struggle in the Group stage. I'm optimistic that things will get better later...
It's a quote from Lippi himself :) :bigscarf:
 

RAMI-N

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Honestly i don't think he has many choices, but still he tried at times to change formations and tactics during games. He wasn't that bad really even though he did some mistakes but thats understandable since its he's first ever season in management.
Agreed to an extent...though some of his substitutions have shocked me...Also Delpiero's position in the formation...
having said that, I'm still optimistic about Juve and Ciro :beer:
 

v1rtu4l

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Mar 4, 2008
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Seriously guys open up you're brains. How many pacey players we have on this team ? (giovinco and maybe Caceres but he's an average player at best). Del piero, diego, Camo, Grosso, Amauri, trezeguet all those guys are pretty slow players some of them are faster than the others but still pretty slow. How do expect that team to play a pacey attractive football ?
pacey football does not consist of pacey players !
you can have super fast football game, with slow players, they just need to run enough, so everyone has passing options. if you play with a maximal of two ball contacts until you pass you can have a pacey system, but that affords the players to have something called passive play.

a wise men said "the ball is faster than any player" so move the ball fast not the players dragging the ball slowly



i have a very mad idea ...

what exactly did tell us we HAD to change the system ?

we were pretty solid last term with a 4-4-2. why not play diego as lw and melo as pure def-mid with sissoko ?

diego no doubt has defensive qualities and a good work ethic, so we would have the squad and system of last year but with higher quality players and this would make it easier for the new guys to settle in. it is always easier to settle into a new team, when the rest of the team is working.

we could still have changed the system in a year or two, when diego and melo did settle in...

what do you think about that thought?
 

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