[Champions League] JUVENTUS 2-2 Chelsea (03/10/2009) (35 Viewers)
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DO NOT need the money they would incur should they win or make it to the final of the CL anyways. I love seeing the defeated look on their faces.Whoops, shoulda multiquoted this. We are on the same page, I can't stand their arrogance. They already think they are the top team in Europe anyways, and I am sooo tired of hearing them say they have won wont titles on the "trot". Their arrogance needs to come back and bit them in the ass and give them a reality check.
@alb..
I partially agree with you except for the part about not pleased with the performance as I thought we did well last nite compared to the nonsense we carved up at the bridge.
Unfortunately Juventus fans have now become what Inter fans used to be always playing the victim card. The constant bashing of Inter, the constant blaming of outside forces , sound familiar?
People are saying what if we have all the players fit or some even asking what if Scolari was still manager?
Well for the 1st part I cannot see anything that Legrottaglie would have done that would have surpassed what Grygera and Mellberg did last night as they were excellent.
What would Sissoko have done last night that Tiago and Marchisio did not surpass? They covered the grounds more sensibly and their distribution was better than he would ever produce.
As for Nedved when was the last time that the old man put in a good performance against a top side. Too much sentiment methinks.
Scolari is no more the manager because Abramovic is too proactive and does not tolerate being average for too lond unlike our board.
Hiddink is not a genius, he just has a great knack of getting teams to fight above their weight but not exactly winning much as if you compared his cups with the likes of his peers, its not that impressive.
I see noone here that is bemoaning our absent friends have taken into consideration the players out for Chelsea like Carvalho, Joe Cole and how much better they would have been if Essien and Drogba had been playing to their levels for longer periods but it is easy to dismiss that when you are trying to play the victim.
Then we talk about riches but Villareal are in the quarters and they are nowhere as rich as we are but they tend to buy quality players but we do not wanna do that because "Xavi Alonso is too slow" and Diego will not fit into our style of play.
12 minutes to go in a 1 off game that we are leading 2-1 needing 1 more goal to qualify with only 10 men and what does the manager do, he takes off Trezeguet and brings on Amauri, unfuckingbelievable!
Speaking of riches and all of that I wonder how much the Chelsea players in their present form are really worth? I mean would you fork our 24 million for this Drogba and just how much a week will you offer this Ballack etc?
For the record and I am not a manager or even pretend to be 1 but I would not have started Nedved, I would not have brought on Sali at any time during the game, and call me naive but I would have ended that game with Giovinco, Iaquinta, DP, Trez, Amauri and Nedved all on the field as believe Id have gone for broke as though I respect Chelsea, I would not have given a rat's arse as to what they are capable of doing to my team but what my players would be able to do to em
Unfortunately Juventus fans have now become what Inter fans used to be always playing the victim card. The constant bashing of Inter, the constant blaming of outside forces , sound familiar?
People are saying what if we have all the players fit or some even asking what if Scolari was still manager?
Well for the 1st part I cannot see anything that Legrottaglie would have done that would have surpassed what Grygera and Mellberg did last night as they were excellent.
What would Sissoko have done last night that Tiago and Marchisio did not surpass? They covered the grounds more sensibly and their distribution was better than he would ever produce.
As for Nedved when was the last time that the old man put in a good performance against a top side. Too much sentiment methinks.
Scolari is no more the manager because Abramovic is too proactive and does not tolerate being average for too lond unlike our board.
Hiddink is not a genius, he just has a great knack of getting teams to fight above their weight but not exactly winning much as if you compared his cups with the likes of his peers, its not that impressive.
I see noone here that is bemoaning our absent friends have taken into consideration the players out for Chelsea like Carvalho, Joe Cole and how much better they would have been if Essien and Drogba had been playing to their levels for longer periods but it is easy to dismiss that when you are trying to play the victim.
Then we talk about riches but Villareal are in the quarters and they are nowhere as rich as we are but they tend to buy quality players but we do not wanna do that because "Xavi Alonso is too slow" and Diego will not fit into our style of play.
12 minutes to go in a 1 off game that we are leading 2-1 needing 1 more goal to qualify with only 10 men and what does the manager do, he takes off Trezeguet and brings on Amauri, unfuckingbelievable!
Speaking of riches and all of that I wonder how much the Chelsea players in their present form are really worth? I mean would you fork our 24 million for this Drogba and just how much a week will you offer this Ballack etc?
For the record and I am not a manager or even pretend to be 1 but I would not have started Nedved, I would not have brought on Sali at any time during the game, and call me naive but I would have ended that game with Giovinco, Iaquinta, DP, Trez, Amauri and Nedved all on the field as believe Id have gone for broke as though I respect Chelsea, I would not have given a rat's arse as to what they are capable of doing to my team but what my players would be able to do to em
I don't understand why anyone would even consider bashing Ranieri for yesterday's performance, formation and tactics. He did more than good, his subs were spot on, probably he would have changed couple of things had the ref not booked Chiellini the 2nd time.
One mistake we did and I consider it as a tough luck is that we didn't score in London, other than that, I'm satisfied with Ranieri in Champions League and League.
With a couple of players, and be careful only couple of players and we can do the unthinkable, but fact is Ranieri did his best last night with a team that had to play without 4 key players and an injured Nedved in the first 8min.
Now lets move forward and look to the Bologna match.
One mistake we did and I consider it as a tough luck is that we didn't score in London, other than that, I'm satisfied with Ranieri in Champions League and League.
With a couple of players, and be careful only couple of players and we can do the unthinkable, but fact is Ranieri did his best last night with a team that had to play without 4 key players and an injured Nedved in the first 8min.
Now lets move forward and look to the Bologna match.
We had our moments last night and gave a team far superior than us in terms of quality a good run for their money. I loved the determination and irrevocable tenacity of this Juventus side, we never gave up and went out with pride.
Let's be honest here, we don't have a CL winning squad in our hands, it's not like we could have gone all the way or even anything close to that. I'm not really frustrated as much as I am disappointed for players like Pavel who have just played their last game in this competition. We have a very bright future with likes of Giovinco and Marchisio who showed admirable strength and character.
We need better fullbacks and a creative midfielder, before this happens, we won't see silverware any time soon. Ranieri needs to change his tactics like he did last night. Although he did not have much of a choice given the circumstances. We need to switch formations every now and again, it's our sheer predictiablity that has been our main flaw in the past.
I loved the way Gio and Ale combined last night, it was fucking beautiful. I am still convinced that we should play a 4-3-2-1 formation with Gio-ALe behind Trez or Amauri.
Chelsea weren't better than us, they were just more fortunate and effective. They put away their chances well, unlike us.
Let's be honest here, we don't have a CL winning squad in our hands, it's not like we could have gone all the way or even anything close to that. I'm not really frustrated as much as I am disappointed for players like Pavel who have just played their last game in this competition. We have a very bright future with likes of Giovinco and Marchisio who showed admirable strength and character.
We need better fullbacks and a creative midfielder, before this happens, we won't see silverware any time soon. Ranieri needs to change his tactics like he did last night. Although he did not have much of a choice given the circumstances. We need to switch formations every now and again, it's our sheer predictiablity that has been our main flaw in the past.
I loved the way Gio and Ale combined last night, it was fucking beautiful. I am still convinced that we should play a 4-3-2-1 formation with Gio-ALe behind Trez or Amauri.
Chelsea weren't better than us, they were just more fortunate and effective. They put away their chances well, unlike us.
I was thinking of this too myself. 4-3-2-1 for next year would be great, a little less work on Del Piero and a great exprience matches for Seba.
Something like this I've been thinking about for next year or even try it now
Something like this I've been thinking about for next year or even try it now
Buffon
Zebina - Legro - Chiellini - Molinaro
Marchisio - Sissoko - Nedved
Giovinco - Del Piero
Zebina - Legro - Chiellini - Molinaro
Marchisio - Sissoko - Nedved
Giovinco - Del Piero
Amauri/Trezeguet
No I would not have started with him I would have brought him on.
In case you have not noticed I aint a sentimentalist and I would not start Nedved as I feel we have better alternatives.
Emphasis on finishing the game not starting the game, you know the way France were able to beat Italy with all those attacking players on the field with only Deschamps as the covering midfielder.
Look at the others moaning about Villareal playing Panathinakos and we meeting the big bad wolves Chelsea
Remind me again what group Panathinaikos won to qualify, yes its the same group that Inter Milan that has dominated the Italian championship were in and Chelsea were soundly beaten 3-1 by a Roma side floundering in SerieA, all this season.
Who gives a rat's ass what group Villareal qualifed from, how much did the most expensive player in their team cost and look at the brand of football they play and not just this season either as they have qualified for the semis of the champions league as well.
If only they could defend then id tip them to go far. And what makes any of you guys think this Chelsea side would have beaten them?
And you Alen since you are so hot on stat and all of that remind everyone how Chelsea got to the finals of last year.
What exactly is wrong with Aalborg, Celtic and Panathinaikos? Aalborg did thrash Deportivo la Coruna home and away and they drew with United at Old trafford while Panathinaikos eliminated Werder Bremen that has just eliminated Milan in the UeFa cup and by all acounts outplayed them in both legs.
It does not matter who you beat or what teams were in your group after all Real Madrid have just been humiliated by Liverpool, the facts still remain that Villareal are there and we are not.
Juventus are synomynous with champions league more than Chelsea and much more than Villareal but keep on playing the victims of low finances and bad draws as the world would feel sorry for you if you cry loud enough
In case you have not noticed I aint a sentimentalist and I would not start Nedved as I feel we have better alternatives.
Emphasis on finishing the game not starting the game, you know the way France were able to beat Italy with all those attacking players on the field with only Deschamps as the covering midfielder.
Look at the others moaning about Villareal playing Panathinakos and we meeting the big bad wolves Chelsea
Remind me again what group Panathinaikos won to qualify, yes its the same group that Inter Milan that has dominated the Italian championship were in and Chelsea were soundly beaten 3-1 by a Roma side floundering in SerieA, all this season.
Who gives a rat's ass what group Villareal qualifed from, how much did the most expensive player in their team cost and look at the brand of football they play and not just this season either as they have qualified for the semis of the champions league as well.
If only they could defend then id tip them to go far. And what makes any of you guys think this Chelsea side would have beaten them?
And you Alen since you are so hot on stat and all of that remind everyone how Chelsea got to the finals of last year.
What exactly is wrong with Aalborg, Celtic and Panathinaikos? Aalborg did thrash Deportivo la Coruna home and away and they drew with United at Old trafford while Panathinaikos eliminated Werder Bremen that has just eliminated Milan in the UeFa cup and by all acounts outplayed them in both legs.
It does not matter who you beat or what teams were in your group after all Real Madrid have just been humiliated by Liverpool, the facts still remain that Villareal are there and we are not.
Juventus are synomynous with champions league more than Chelsea and much more than Villareal but keep on playing the victims of low finances and bad draws as the world would feel sorry for you if you cry loud enough
