[Champions League] Chelsea 1-0 JUVENTUS (02/25/09) (12 Viewers)
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Chelsea 1-0 Juventus
Guus Hiddink: "If I had to motivate a player, then I think I start fighting with him or neglecting him, generally speaking. I have not had this problem at all with (Didier) Drogba. I'm satisfied with the win but overall I'm not satisfied. We started very well, we opened them up through the wings and were very dangerous. But after the goal we dropped back too far and got a bit anxious and Juve came into it much more."
Claudio Ranieri: "I have to say I was extremely happy with the reception, because it showed they had not forgotten me. I spent four years here and I enjoyed them. I would like to thank them for the reception. But scoring an away goal in a match like this could have been better for us. We knew going into the game that it would be difficult. That's why it was important for us to try and get a goal."
Guus Hiddink: "If I had to motivate a player, then I think I start fighting with him or neglecting him, generally speaking. I have not had this problem at all with (Didier) Drogba. I'm satisfied with the win but overall I'm not satisfied. We started very well, we opened them up through the wings and were very dangerous. But after the goal we dropped back too far and got a bit anxious and Juve came into it much more."
Claudio Ranieri: "I have to say I was extremely happy with the reception, because it showed they had not forgotten me. I spent four years here and I enjoyed them. I would like to thank them for the reception. But scoring an away goal in a match like this could have been better for us. We knew going into the game that it would be difficult. That's why it was important for us to try and get a goal."
Exactly, credit goes to him. He did what was expected with no fuss, even tried pushing forward a couple of times.
I was referring to you (I thought i would be slicker than this
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Anyway of course we just want to play efficient movement football like the Lippi days. But every coach has a different style and i don't see us playing this type of football under CR. This team tries to play when it could but you have to realise your own abilities and consider how you could achieve the most with what you have.
If we are to change tactics i would still like 4 midfielders, I still maintain that we don't wholesale changes just a few tweaks and we will score for sure. A big point for having two wingers is that when Marchionni was introduced we most dominant due to him hugging the line mostly and drifting in like camo likes to do.
So it will be interesting to see how CR fields his players two weeks from now.
I was referring to you (I thought i would be slicker than this
)Anyway of course we just want to play efficient movement football like the Lippi days. But every coach has a different style and i don't see us playing this type of football under CR. This team tries to play when it could but you have to realise your own abilities and consider how you could achieve the most with what you have.
If we are to change tactics i would still like 4 midfielders, I still maintain that we don't wholesale changes just a few tweaks and we will score for sure. A big point for having two wingers is that when Marchionni was introduced we most dominant due to him hugging the line mostly and drifting in like camo likes to do.
So it will be interesting to see how CR fields his players two weeks from now.
Our domination actually started with Marchionni. 
Chelsea is losing every ball at midfield for 10 minutes in a row. I seriously suggest to everyone to watch the match again and i wonder if they'll say how we were outplayed and tactically outsmarted.
Chelsea is losing every ball at midfield for 10 minutes in a row. I seriously suggest to everyone to watch the match again and i wonder if they'll say how we were outplayed and tactically outsmarted.
Let's not get crazy and start talking about Marchionni the saviour. His performances have been repugnant this year, and his replacement (who needs to be capable of playing major minutes, given Camo's fragility) should be a priority in the offseason (Naturally it won't be, because we're strapped for cash as it is, and there are STILL several more pressing needs).
camo might not have been great but he had very few support ...
i remember one scene where he was on the right and could cross in, but NO ONE ... no amauri and no alex was there as first striker so there was noone he could cross to.
i do not know what alex and amauri where thinking in that moment, but why the fuck did no one at least try to do the first striker role and go onto the last defender of them to rush into a cross behind their defense ... alex was on the other corner of the penalty box and where amauri was i can not remember ... was there too much respect ? i don't know, but in certain situations we did miss a first striker ... trezeguet would have gotten in that position guaranteed.
marchionni did surprise me and surely had a decent game
i remember one scene where he was on the right and could cross in, but NO ONE ... no amauri and no alex was there as first striker so there was noone he could cross to.
i do not know what alex and amauri where thinking in that moment, but why the fuck did no one at least try to do the first striker role and go onto the last defender of them to rush into a cross behind their defense ... alex was on the other corner of the penalty box and where amauri was i can not remember ... was there too much respect ? i don't know, but in certain situations we did miss a first striker ... trezeguet would have gotten in that position guaranteed.
marchionni did surprise me and surely had a decent game
When Trez replaced Sissoko, Nedved was switched to CM. Hiddink saw that and Chelsea's last 4 attacks were on Molinaro's side and all 4 times Moli was alone against 2 Chelsea players.
Now imagine if we didn't even have someone on the left for 20 whole minutes, or if Chiellini went there and left Legro and Mellberg alone against Drogba/Anelka/Malouda.
Trez might have been put earlier, but certainly not for a defender.
Now imagine if we didn't even have someone on the left for 20 whole minutes, or if Chiellini went there and left Legro and Mellberg alone against Drogba/Anelka/Malouda.
Trez might have been put earlier, but certainly not for a defender.
Let's face it, we played like a small-time team against a better and bigger team. Shit at the beginning, crap throughout. They were clearly the stronger team, and while we had some good moments, we couldn't pass and couldn't keep possession. I don't care what the stats say, we looked very mediocre. Chelsea were always more dangerous, and their movement was far superior throughout the match. Our midfield lacks quality, and it's as simple as that. Camo is good, but he simply can't do it all by himself. Nedved tries very hard, but he's simply too old. Sissoko does a job, but his lack of intelligence means he simply has NO part in a genuine top-class midfield. That said, we need him right now. Chiellini is good, we all know that, but NO ONE ELSE in the back four is good enough. It's that simple. We have some great players, but they're either too old to carry the team through a whole season, or they're not playing. Our "Great Saviour" Giovinco never plays and isn't developing. Simple as that. We have a great goalkeeper, and some top-quality forwards. However, that's not enough. We can't control games against Palermo, much less against teams like Manu, Chelsea, Inter, etc. When we play well, we're pretty good, but our base-line simply isn't good enough for what we need. We have match-winners, but we don't have players that can control games. It's like the difference between Gerrard and Alonso. One player can win games single-handedly, while the other player makes the WHOLE team play far better. Without quality in midfield, we'll never be good enough to win the Champions League or the Scudetto. simple as that. Chelsea have that quality, and it showed.
it will be really though for us to get to the next round.
and the game showed our weaknesses... our fullbacks are awful period
and we really need a new cb...
this defence is really not good enough. sissoko had an good match like neddy
but camo was poor and so was tiago.
we had a good 2nd half but still were so clueless we need a player like diego or hamsik to creat something out of the middle.... we tried to play over the wings but moli and mellberg just can't cross for shit... the only hope we had was a corner kick or a freekick we didn't creat much out of the game...
i just hope chillini gets back to 100% and camo isn't injured.... and with a better performence espacially from tiago or whoever plays on the position we can win the game but i doubt it will be enough to overcome the 1:0
ah and ranieri should have brought in giovinco for camo...
and the game showed our weaknesses... our fullbacks are awful period
and we really need a new cb...
this defence is really not good enough. sissoko had an good match like neddy
but camo was poor and so was tiago.
we had a good 2nd half but still were so clueless we need a player like diego or hamsik to creat something out of the middle.... we tried to play over the wings but moli and mellberg just can't cross for shit... the only hope we had was a corner kick or a freekick we didn't creat much out of the game...
i just hope chillini gets back to 100% and camo isn't injured.... and with a better performence espacially from tiago or whoever plays on the position we can win the game but i doubt it will be enough to overcome the 1:0
ah and ranieri should have brought in giovinco for camo...
we were HARDLY all over them! they backed in to their shell, Olympiakos would have put them under the same pressure! Any team can put another under pressure when one of them backs down, what makes a difference how good a team is overall. and frankly, even when we put them under pressure, we never played particularly well. We were NEVER able to pass the ball well, our players lost the ball countless times, and we created few decent chances. we basically looked like a mediocre team playing well against a bigger team. playing better, yes, but with little quality