[Champions League] Chelsea 1-0 JUVENTUS (02/25/09) (2 Viewers)

[Nicholas]

No need to go gung ho.

1-0 us takes it to extra time.

Just play to win.

4-4-2 isen't an attacking nor a winning formation under Ranieri.

 

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[The Curr]

No need to go gung ho.

1-0 us takes it to extra time.

Just play to win.

IF we were to go gung ho though we could catch Chelsea out early on. We played to win today and never looked like actually winning. As I said though, it won't happen.

 

[only-juve]

He did camo's job better than camo did himself, but some of his passing and overall reading of the game was not up to scratch

Chelsea are a good team and I still think 1-0 isn't particuarly bad, it's not over as long as we get some form behind us and the right attitude going.
However if we were to progress I think it's as far as we could go due to the limitations of our squad. Like greg said it's laughable when marchionni becomes your impact player, I would add let alone in siere A but in the champs league it says it all, I like him and all but we need better subs or else...

i think we'll knock chelsea out but still we won't go further than that in all honesty.....

 

[PhRoZeN]

Man this statistical arguments are useless, Chelsea played more defensive at the second half, for that reason we controlled the match, and that high passing numbers has nothing to do with the term "our passing was awful", we pass a lot in our defending area, that's because we are weaker in terms of creativity, we just pass the ball between the defenders and midfielders, while the opponent defend as a team. If everyone will bring statistic from here, and statistic from there to make some argument, we are only going to argue without any sense. Tiago, Chiellini, Molinaro along with others wasted loads of passes, for that reason everyone saying "our passing was awful".

Agree we didn't really impose our game on chelsea rather chelsea sat back and soaked up the pressure and attacked as and when required. Hiddink doesnt believe in all guns blazing if thats what we expected from chelsea rather he likes his team to play tactically and that they did. Credit to chelsea they had us in there pocket we really lack some creativity we just never caused enough problems for them for obvious reasons we were hopeful of sissoko being more dominating however it was quite the opposite and understandbly so. Also just to add we ran around a lot I saw the statistical comparisons of distances covered on both sides with nedveds work rate seeming like the the highest but the fact is that we ran around in an unorganized fashion. We tried to make something out of this game but we were just simply.... not good enough.

 

[Snoop]

I was replying to a post, i think Luca's post, where he said that there wasn't an improvement between our game against the English.
I simply noted that tonight we played better than we did back in 2005 and 2006. Back then we were humiliated.
I sencerely didn't even think about comparing the coaches. Only the performance of the team.
Andy might be right though, it might have smthg to do with our opponents and their style, but it's a fact that this performance tonight was better than the ones in 05 and 06.

It's cool man, I brought that up because Jack said no one compared the two teams, I got you on your other post. link

 

[JCK]

I think the stat that we had scored the least goals in the group stage sums up all our problems, dictating the play and having someone to feed our strikers more often as they are well and truly deprived, put amauri on man u's team and he would score goals galore.

In the group stage the difference between winning 1-0 and winning 5-0 (Barca style) is one big NOTHING

 

[The Curr]

i think we'll knock chelsea out but still we won't go further than that in all honesty.....

but we could get Pana/Villarreal/Inter. On our day we can certainly beat any of them

 

[Luca]

I was replying to a post, i think Luca's post, where he said that there wasn't an improvement between our game against the English.
I simply noted that tonight we played better than we did back in 2005 and 2006. Back then we were humiliated.
I sincerely didn't even think about comparing the coaches. Only the performance of the team.
Andy might be right though, it might have smthg to do with our opponents and their style, but it's a fact that this performance tonight was better than the ones in 05 and 06.

We can't handle the tempo, their high line and closing down, it's just what Italian teams aren't used to, I was suprised how inter responded.

 

[Mike-e-y]

I don't share the positive outlook some of u have taken. They had more pace, more ideas, and their passing and buildup were superior to ours. We were slow and predictable in comparison to Chelsea. Not to mention are defending was frantic at times, whereas we never caused the same reaction in their backline.

I fail to see how this was a positive performance. We have absolutely no way of progressing if we play like this in Turin, even with a little luck. Not to mention our last 2 performances against English opposition at home in the 2nd leg were far from encouraging.

Did you really think that we were a better team than chelsea 3 hours ago? It was obvious that they were going to be better than us in many departments tonight, but after the goal we woke up and more than matched them, thats where we can gain positives.

Sure its a shame we didnt get an away goal, but we've beat inter in Turin so I'm damn sure we can beat chelsea there too

 

[Stephan]

I think the stat that we had scored the least goals in the group stage sums up all our problems, dictating the play and having someone to feed our strikers more often as they are well and truly deprived, put amauri on man u's team and he would score goals galore.

we had one of the hardest groups though.

 

[JCK]

I am watching the game again now, why didn't anyone mention the Del Piero shot that was saved by Chec in the first half? The one that resulted in a corner that caused havoc by Amauri's header? I know why because it emphasises that some people are fans of mediocrity.

 

[PhRoZeN]

I think the stat that we had scored the least goals in the group stage sums up all our problems, dictating the play and having someone to feed our strikers more often as they are well and truly deprived, put amauri on man u's team and he would score goals galore.

so true..

 

[Red]

4-4-2 isen't an attacking nor a winning formation under Ranieri.

I disagree.

Was it not a winning formation when we were beating Inter, Milan and Real Madrid using it?

IF we were to go gung ho though we could catch Chelsea out early on. We played to win today and never looked like actually winning. As I said though, it won't happen.

I agree we need to make a fast start.

 

[Azzurri7]

We can't handle the tempo, their high line and closing down, it's just what Italian teams aren't used to, I was suprised how inter responded.

I'm not sure about that.... it was expected Chelsea to start better than us because they're playing home and the tempo was really predictable in the 1st half.

Now the question is, can Chelsea handle the tempo in the 2nd leg?

 

[Juventino★★★]

The stats are very misleading with what I saw today. We gave away the ball four times from bad passing in the first minute alone of the second half. Lol, like I said the stats are misleading. We were passing horribly today, nothing can justify anything different than lousy passing. Stop looking how many passes we completed and start looking how many passes were not completed and given needlessly away. That's the stat I want to see because its the only one that shows how our possession game was today.

We were put under pressure too many times because of giving the ball away.

chelsea was giving the ball away too and almost punished by camoranesi and nedved

 

[Luca]

In the group stage the difference between winning 1-0 and winning 5-0 (Barca style) is one big NOTHING

Not the way you put it. But if you see the amount of times we've been aging chase the ball against teams like BATE and then fail to create a decent amount of chances is a serious problem. You just stated one extreme.

 

[Nicholas]

I disagree.

Was it not a winning formation when we were beating Inter, Milan and Real Madrid using it?



I agree we need to make a fast start.

Have we won trophies under Ranieri using it?.

 

[JCK]

Alex's weakness?? The guy played perfect, hes 10 times better then Legro for example..

Minute 23, go watch one of Alex's weaknesses.

I will post more as the game goes on.

 

[Bjerknes]

What statistical argument? Andy said that Chelsea were passing more than we were, and he was wrong. He said Chelsea had more chances, but they didn't. What statistical argument?

I know of one statistic that makes Andy win the discussion, but I will not reveal it

I never said Chelsea were "passing more", whatever that means. What I did say was that they were troubling us more through making more incisive moves in on us.

If you want to go by your statistics, then either way, we both lose 1-0. umpkin:

 

[Red]

I am watching the game again now, why didn't anyone mention the Del Piero shot that was saved by Chec in the first half? The one that resulted in a corner that caused havoc by Amauri's header? I know why because it emphasises that some people are fans of mediocrity.

Those were our two clearest chances.