[Champions League] Chelsea 1-0 JUVENTUS (02/25/09) (24 Viewers)

[C4ISR]

I don't share the positive outlook some of u have taken. They had more pace, more ideas, and their passing and buildup were superior to ours. We were slow and predictable in comparison to Chelsea. Not to mention are defending was frantic at times, whereas we never caused the same reaction in their backline.

I fail to see how this was a positive performance. We have absolutely no way of progressing if we play like this in Turin, even with a little luck. Not to mention our last 2 performances against English opposition at home in the 2nd leg were far from encouraging.

 

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[Bjerknes]

The second half was all Juve, Chelsea's chances were expected because of the counter attacks.

 

[Toro_Merda]

Obi Mikel was a clone of Essien and John Terry's abilities shouldn't be mentioned. It was a shame that we couldn't take advantage of Alex's weaknesses, that's the most I regret.

Alex's weakness?? The guy played perfect, hes 10 times better then Legro for example..

 

[Red]

He did camo's job better than camo did himself, but some of his passing and overall reading of the game was not up to scratch

Chelsea are a good team and I still think 1-0 isn't particuarly bad, it's not over as long as we get some form behind us and the right attitude going.
However if we were to progress I think it's as far as we could go due to the limitations of our squad. Like greg said it's laughable when marchionni becomes your impact player, I would add let alone in siere A but in the champs league it says it all, I like him and all but we need better subs or else...

All I'm saying Marchionni did was stand on the touchline. That was all that was needed to open up the centre of the pitch and give us a little bit of space to play in.

And if we get through, we could draw someone shit like Pana or Inter.

 

[Juventino★★★]

this is the truth.

capello was terrible in the CL. he had the strongest squad in europe but couldnt even score one goal, at home, when we needed to, FOR TWO YEARS RUNNING!

i will never forget how we went out to liverpool and arsenal. just hoofing the ball up to zlatan hoping something would come up.

i know that capello is alot better coach than ranieri but to be honest i feel more safer playing big matches with ranieri than capello.

at least the team trying and fighting for every ball instead of defending and waiting for Zlatan to bring long balls down and dribble the whole defence to score

what if ranieri had capello's team in today's match?

 

[JCK]

Man this statistical arguments are useless, Chelsea played more defensive at the second half, for that reason we controlled the match, and that high passing numbers has nothing to do with the term "our passing was awful", we pass a lot in our defending area, that's because we are weaker in terms of creativity, we just pass the ball between the defenders and midfielders, while the opponent defend as a team. If everyone will bring statistic from here, and statistic from there to make some argument, we are only going to argue without any sense. Tiago, Chiellini, Molinaro along with others wasted loads of passes, for that reason everyone saying "our passing was awful".

What statistical argument? Andy said that Chelsea were passing more than we were, and he was wrong. He said Chelsea had more chances, but they didn't. What statistical argument?

I know of one statistic that makes Andy win the discussion, but I will not reveal it

 

[Nicholas]

It needs to be all gun-ho in Turin,Gio HAS to start and play a 4-3-3 because neither Sissoko or Tiago was useful today.

 

[Snoop]

I agree as well. Under Ranieri, in my mind, we have already exceeded anything Capello brought to us in the CL. Sad but true, which is why we wanted Capello out.

What do you mean Greg?

We were eliminated by the finalists twice in CL with Capello, and at quarter finals, we are only in the second stage, and are almost out, how did Ranieri exceed Capello?

 

[Alen]

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I was replying to a post, i think Luca's post, where he said that there wasn't an improvement between our game against the English.
I simply noted that tonight we played better than we did back in 2005 and 2006. Back then we were humiliated.
I sincerely didn't even think about comparing the coaches. Only the performance of the team.
Andy might be right though, it might have smthg to do with our opponents and their style, but it's a fact that this performance tonight was better than the ones in 05 and 06.

 

[Luca]

I think the stat that we had scored the least goals in the group stage sums up all our problems, dictating the play and having someone to feed our strikers more often as they are well and truly deprived, put amauri on man u's team and he would score goals galore.

 

[The Curr]

It needs to be all gun-ho in Turin,Gio HAS to start and play a 4-3-3 because neither Sissoko or Tiago was useful today.

Won't happen, won't happen, won't happen. :depressed

 

[Snoop]

What statistical argument? Andy said that Chelsea were passing more than we were, and he was wrong. He said Chelsea had more chances, but they didn't. What statistical argument?

I know of one statistic that makes Andy win the discussion, but I will not reveal it

say it

 

[Alen]

I know of one statistic that makes Andy win the discussion, but I will not reveal it

I know another such statistic. The most obvious and most important one.

 

[JCK]

I was replying to a post, i think Luca's post, where he said that there wasn't an improvement between our game against the English.
I simply noted that tonight we played better than we did back in 2005 and 2006. Back then we were humiliated.
I sencerely didn't even think about comparing the coaches. Only the performance of the team.
Andy might be right though, it might have smthg to do with our opponents and their style, but it's a fact that this performance tonight was better than the ones in 05 and 06.

Don't waste finger cells

 

[Nicholas]

Won't happen, won't happen, won't happen. :depressed

Thats where we will continue to be failures under Ranieri then,I'm sick of his bullshit SAFE approach.

 

[Red]

It needs to be all gun-ho in Turin,Gio HAS to start and play a 4-3-3 because neither Sissoko or Tiago was useful today.

No need to go gung ho.

1-0 us takes it to extra time.

Just play to win.

 

[JCK]

say it

Dream on.

I know another such statistic. The most obvious and most important one.

The result? I will counter it with a Ranieri quote, each match is a half time

 

[swag]

What do you mean Greg?

We were eliminated by the finalists twice in CL with Capello, and at quarter finals, we are only in the second stage, and are almost out, how did Ranieri exceed Capello?

Because Capello could never win in Madrid, with his squad of insanely better talent, for example.

Capello's squad required last gasps of errant balls against Bremen to keep us alive.

 

[Hust]

The stats are very misleading with what I saw today. We gave away the ball four times from bad passing in the first minute alone of the second half. Lol, like I said the stats are misleading. We were passing horribly today, nothing can justify anything different than lousy passing. Stop looking how many passes we completed and start looking how many passes were not completed and given needlessly away. That's the stat I want to see because its the only one that shows how our possession game was today.

We were put under pressure too many times because of giving the ball away.

 

[juvechampions]

we' ll need the strength of trez and anauri in the box and alex behind them in a free role . in offense we have better players than in midfield and we need to score in the second leg.a 4-3-3 formation