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pphoenix

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There's probably no doubt that Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are the GOATS in the CL.


Statistics is also backing it up. Real Madrid still in a league of their own though.



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So we are deciding who's the Goat of the UCL on the basis of their Group stage record?

Milan have more UCL trophies than Bayern. Bayern have literally never gone past Milan in the Knock out rounds. And here you are bragging about Bayern on a Juve forum.

Poor Juve fans can't even say anything - when it comes to the UCL. But as a Milan supporter, I like checking out this forum, and couldn't help notice your bragging.

Also, it helps playing in a one horse league, where you can qualify every year for the UCL without any hardwork, before you come to the point that Milan didn't even qualify for the UCL, many years in the past.

Always remember Inzaghi. Oliver Kahn does.
 

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Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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I don't think many people outside of Bayern fans would consider them "CL GOATS".

Real Madrid are streets ahead of anybody else.
 
Apr 12, 2004
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So we are deciding who's the Goat of the UCL on the basis of their Group stage record?

Milan have more UCL trophies than Bayern. Bayern have literally never gone past Milan in the Knock out rounds. And here you are bragging about Bayern on a Juve forum.

Poor Juve fans can't even say anything - when it comes to the UCL. But as a Milan supporter, I like checking out this forum, and couldn't help notice your bragging.

Also, it helps playing in a one horse league, where you can qualify every year for the UCL without any hardwork, before you come to the point that Milan didn't even qualify for the UCL, many years in the past.

Always remember Inzaghi. Oliver Kahn does.
:cry:
 

JuveJay

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I don't think many people outside of Bayern fans would consider them "CL GOATS".

Real Madrid are streets ahead of anybody else.
I couldn't tell you how many teams have but off the top of my head I would consider Real Madrid first and then there is a distant second bracket of Bayern, Milan and Liverpool. Third bracket Ajax and the like. Think recent honours have to be taken into account.
 

BayernFan

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So we are deciding who's the Goat of the UCL on the basis of their Group stage record?

Milan have more UCL trophies than Bayern. Bayern have literally never gone past Milan in the Knock out rounds. And here you are bragging about Bayern on a Juve forum.

Poor Juve fans can't even say anything - when it comes to the UCL. But as a Milan supporter, I like checking out this forum, and couldn't help notice your bragging.

Also, it helps playing in a one horse league, where you can qualify every year for the UCL without any hardwork, before you come to the point that Milan didn't even qualify for the UCL, many years in the past.

Always remember Inzaghi. Oliver Kahn does.
Oh yeah and remember last time your team was relevant, Barack Obama wasn't even a US President. Also, two trebles for us, none for you.

We played in 20 semifinals, you in 13, 32 quarterfinals for us, 17 for you, and both played 11 finals. Even if you won 1 final more than us we're simply way ahead when it comes to being consistent. We assembled 523 points in the CL, you only 320.

Milan was better than us no doubt but now the roles have switched and we're way in front, it's not even a contest. The numbers don't lie.

And us not going past you in the CL is something only a fan of an irrelevant club would care about. Maybe you'll be relevant again in the next decades time. :lol:

Bayern and Real Madrid are setting records in the CL, Milan did so too but that's a long long time ago.

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I don't think many people outside of Bayern fans would consider them "CL GOATS".

Real Madrid are streets ahead of anybody else.
The stats don't really lie. You could argue it's Real Madrid and Milan as they're the two clubs with the most cups in the competition, but Bayern are just waaaaay ahead of Milan if you look at the overall table.
 

Niku

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Jan 14, 2014
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Unpopular opinion but Juventus is way down in the CL in prestige as said we have the same wins as Benfica and as many lost final than anyone else. Heck we only have one more throphy than the likes of PSV, Aston Villa, Steaua Bucarest etc lol.
And yes is undeniable Real is the big dominant of the competition with as much as twice the throphies as their next rivals (Milan, Bayern, Liverpool, Barca).
But in my opinion there is also and untangible value on how you win it and people remember that, I am sure that Real or Barca or maybe both once won the CL beating each of the champions of the big leagues, even Milan are well regarded in obtaining the throphies with nice football and almost every follower of the sport have heard of the treble of Barca, Bayern and Inter, and how they obtained those awards. Being superior to everyone. In a way that is hard to see again, in the cases of Barca-Bayern.

In the historical record of points we arent bad, think we are like 5th, but that really doesnt matter in the end.

Only 22 of 530 teams have achieved to be the victors.

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Real Madrid C. F.14 3 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1966, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2022 1962, 1964, 1981
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A. C. Milan7 4 1963, 1969, 1989, 1990, 1994, 2003, 2007 1958, 1993, 1995, 2005
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F. C. Bayern6 5 1974, 1975, 1976, 2001, 2013, 2020 1982, 1987, 1999, 2010, 2012
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Liverpool F. C.6 4 1977, 1978, 1981, 1984, 2005, 2019 1985, 2007, 2018, 2022
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F. C. Barcelona5 3 1992, 2006, 2009, 2011, 2015 1961, 1986, 1994
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A. F. C. Ajax4 2 1971, 1972, 1973, 1995 1969, 1996
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F. C. Internazionale3 2 1964, 1965, 2010 1967, 1972
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Manchester United F. C.3 2 1968, 1999, 2008 2009, 2011
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Juventus F. C.2 7 1985, 1996 1973, 1983, 1997, 1998, 2003, 2015, 2017
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S. L. Benfica2 5 1961, 1962 1963, 1965, 1968, 1988, 1990
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Chelsea F. C.2 1 2012, 2021 2008
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Nottingham Forest F. C.2 - 1979, 1980
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F. C. Porto2 - 1987, 2004
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Celtic F. C.1 1 1967 1970
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Hamburger S. V.1 1 1983 1980
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F. C. Steaua București1 1 1986 1989
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Olympique de Marsella1 1 1993 1991
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B. V. Borussia1 1 1997 2013
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Feyenoord Rotterdam1 - 1970
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Aston Villa F. C.1 - 1982
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P. S. V. Eindhoven1 - 1988
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F. K. Estrella Roja1 - 1991
 

Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
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Bayern and Milan fans shit talk about CL on a Juve forum because we can't really join the debate, you guys should be brave and take your smack over to the Madrid forums. The only thing we have in common is that we can hurt Inter this year.
 
Apr 12, 2004
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Bayern and Milan fans shit talk about CL on a Juve forum because we can't really join the debate, you guys should be brave and take your smack over to the Madrid forums. The only thing we have in common is that we can hurt Inter this year.
I don't really debate shit like this because it's like a Hungarian talking about how badass the Austro-Hungarian Empire was. Sure, history matters, in context, but the past ten years and the future ten years are more important as showing trends.

Plus, fuck Madrid. It's easy to dominate a competition when you steal the best players and make them play for your favorite team.
 

Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
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Plus, fuck Madrid. It's easy to dominate a competition when you steal the best players and make them play for your favorite team.
You gotta admit that they're good at always being contenders, bouncing back very quickly even when you think their cycle is over. They had no right to win it last season but they just did it. They rarely buy shit players, particularly the young ones turn out to be excellent long term players for them so it's no issue dumping Casemiro for example. I guess Bayern are similar in successful management but the Spanish league is way more competitive.
 

.zero

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Szoblozai brev

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Two goals taken off the board for Leipzig

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And Silva takes it right back for Leipzig

imagine if Jj had an ounce of fight in them

instead Jj and their fans like to blame refs and Italy
 
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