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The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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We're a better team. But it's a silly comparison. We spend fortune on players during the summer while Napoli spends peantus unless they make a huge sale like Pipita -- or in the future when they sell some of their gems -- which can still make them stronger.

I think Napoli represents what small-ish clubs can do if they are on the right track. They did absolutely brilliant imo ever since their arrival from Serie B. They always buy very smart and minority of their transfers end up as a cack.
That's inaccurate. Our net spending every summer is nowhere near the top foreign clubs. Hell, we seem to spend less than Milan and Inter. Also, when we won our first scudetto we reinforced with guys like Vidal, Vucinic and Pirlo. None of them cost more than 20 mln. So it's possible to win. Just look at Leicester, Monaco, Dortmund or Atletico.

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Vialli_92

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That's inaccurate. Our net spending every summer is nowhere near the top foreign clubs. Hell, we seem to spend less than Milan and Inter. Also, when we won our first scudetto we reinforced with guys like Vidal, Vucinic and Pirlo. None of them cost more than 20 mln. So it's possible to win. Just look at Leicester, Monaco, Dortmund or Atletico.

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We could have a net spend of 0 but still have a €400 million team so it does matter.

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Dostoevsky

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That's inaccurate. Our net spending every summer is nowhere near the top foreign clubs. Hell, we seem to spend less than Milan and Inter. Also, when we won our first scudetto we reinforced with guys like Vidal, Vucinic and Pirlo. None of them cost more than 20 mln. So it's possible to win. Just look at Leicester, Monaco, Dortmund or Atletico.

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What is inaccurate? I never said we spend the amount as other top clubs. I said we spend fortune compared to Napoli.

And still, we did have huge sales, hence we had huge spendings overall. Napoli had that only when they sold Higuain. So our overall investment is quite high, net or not, cause we spent quite a fortune over the past 10 years. Surely a big fortune compared to Napoli I guess.
 

pitbull

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What is inaccurate? I never said we spend the amount as other top clubs. I said we spend fortune compared to Napoli.

And still, we did have huge sales, hence we had huge spendings overall. Napoli had that only when they sold Higuain. So our overall investment is quite high, net or not, cause we spent quite a fortune over the past 10 years. Surely a big fortune compared to Napoli I guess.
I think more significant comparison is the wage bill not spending on transfer market, as we and pretty much every club spends way more in wages than on transfer market and this shows the real spending power of a club. And here you can see that we pay our players 164m yearly while Napoli pay 81m (below Milan 117, Roma 91 and Inter 82), the fact that they're so close to us and other top clubs on the pitch speaks volumes about how well they're run because they're basically hobos compared to us, nevermind Manchester City.
 

The Quazis

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What is inaccurate? I never said we spend the amount as other top clubs. I said we spend fortune compared to Napoli.

And still, we did have huge sales, hence we had huge spendings overall. Napoli had that only when they sold Higuain. So our overall investment is quite high, net or not, cause we spent quite a fortune over the past 10 years. Surely a big fortune compared to Napoli I guess.
They also had a huge sale in Higuain yet they decided not to reinvest that money into the squad. So my point is they had the chance to improve the squad but they only bought Milik for relatively small money.
 

Dostoevsky

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They also had a huge sale in Higuain yet they decided not to reinvest that money into the squad. So my point is they had the chance to improve the squad but they only bought Milik for relatively small money.
How is that your point? We spend more on players and we give a lot higher wages than Napoli does. The spending gap is huge.

Some say there's a huge gap between us and top clubs (Manchester, Barca, Real) when it comes to revenues/spendings. While that might be case it goes the same between us and Napoli.

Seeing with how 'tinny' budget they operate ever since they came from Serie B I'd say they did a fantastic job. Bar us (who had A LOT more financial power) I don't remember any club doing that recently. Not only staying in Serie A but becoming a tough competitor and a club that reaches CL -- which is by default a huge success -- especially if we're talking about a lesser club.

I think more significant comparison is the wage bill not spending on transfer market, as we and pretty much every club spends way more in wages than on transfer market and this shows the real spending power of a club. And here you can see that we pay our players 164m yearly while Napoli pay 81m (below Milan 117, Roma 91 and Inter 82), the fact that they're so close to us and other top clubs on the pitch speaks volumes about how well they're run because they're basically hobos compared to us, nevermind Manchester City.
Yep, that's a very good point. Like I said, money spent very wisely.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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I wouldn't actually mind Napoli winning the Scudetto if they didn't have the most annoying fans in the world.

Can you imagine the amount of insults they would throw Juve's way because they beat us once for the Scudetto?

The celebrations would be more about Juve failing than Napoli winning
We're at a point where this is basically true for every club in Serie A.
 

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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How is that your point? We spend more on players and we give a lot higher wages than Napoli does. The spending gap is huge.

Some say there's a huge gap between us and top clubs (Manchester, Barca, Real) when it comes to revenues/spendings. While that might be case it goes the same between us and Napoli.

Seeing with how 'tinny' budget they operate ever since they came from Serie B I'd say they did a fantastic job. Bar us (who had A LOT more financial power) I don't remember any club doing that recently. Not only staying in Serie A but becoming a tough competitor and a club that reaches CL -- which is by default a huge success -- especially if we're talking about a lesser club.



Yep, that's a very good point. Like I said, money spent very wisely.
Atletico, BVB or Monaco all did that: came from lower division or being mediocre for years like BVB and out-muscled much stronger opponent like Bayern, Real, Barca or PSG. Some might say that the financial and sport gap was even bigger than between us and Neapolitans. What's more, the three before mentioned sides not only won their championship but also reached at least CL semis.

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pitbull

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Atletico, BVB or Monaco all did that: came from lower division or being mediocre for years like BVB and out-muscled much stronger opponent like Bayern, Real, Barca or PSG. Some might say that the financial and sport gap was even bigger than between us and Neapolitans. What's more, the three before mentioned sides not only won their championship but also reached at least CL semis.

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Monaco where one of the biggest spenders in Europe when Rybolovlev took over and that basically launched them from Ligue 2 side to one of the main competitors for league title, Dortmund has been a solid Bundesliga upper table club since forever

Atletico is a solid example though, I've been admiring their management for a long time, for the past decade they've always had at least one of the best forwards in Europe at the time while being a modest club compared to Real/Barca, that line of Torres, Aguero, Forlan, Falcao, Costa, Griezmann is truly impressive
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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If we were to be eliminated, I'd like Manchester City to win the CL.
They impressed you too eh? They looked very nice vs Napoli. I'd like PSG to win it if not us.

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