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Vialli_92

Senior Member
Mar 7, 2013
6,500
Chelsea fans beaten by security here is the video
https://mobile.twitter.com/_robbbbbbb/status/974055589486694400/video/1

"I was there tonight, it was horrendous.From the beginning they were aggressive. More stewards and police than I'v seen at any other match, including in Baku which is a human rights disaster area and Fenerbache. Thy searched us aggressively, my ass was aggressively groped three times during the search. Armed stewards looked at us aggressively throughout. There was NO presence on the Barcelona side however, even when they were aggressive, nothing was done.

On the way out, me and everyone around were walking out peacefully.They ran past me up the ramp, pushing me out the way, as if to get in position. A moment later, they just charged, weapons out, hitting indiscriminately. They squeezed us into a confined space, and even after fans fell onto the floor including kids, they kept pushing and hitting. Was either get hit, or trample a kid. I stood, pointed at the kid on the floor in front of me, and held my hand out pleading to a steward saying please stop. He looked at me, the kid, my hand, and then just smacked my wrist. Is bruised and swollen and feels tricky to move my thumb. This was not provoked, and they were not stopping even when people hit the floor. The same guy then turned to my dad who was facing the opposite direction to him, arms out trying to protect those in front, and just smacked him three times in the lower back. This wasn't just one asshole steward, it was an organised, planned attack. They were ready to act this way, they were armed with batons at the ready from the start. Someone else posted a video, and just look around on twitter to see other pics and videos and accounts of what happened.

Please, anyone here who sees this or any other tweet or whatever, post tweet retweet like, email UEFA, Barcelona, anything. I am furious at what happened to me tonight. People, kids, could have been trampled. I saw a guy bleeding from his head. They hit a fan in the back of the leg, and when he dropped to his knee they kept hitting, now at his head and upper back. I am furious, and I beg everything here to try and help get this seen, talked about, and responded to. Iv been going to matches since I was 7, and I have seen nothing like the shit on display tonight"

“Absolute fucking shambles from the security tonight. They arranged to organise for the fans to enter via gate C/access 21, then closed off the main road through to that area forcing us to walk via street level around the entire block of the stadium.

We heard stories of fans being split into groups and one group on the Main Street being forced into a street where Barca fans were waiting to peg bricks and golf balls at the chelsea fans. Organised by the police of course.

After the game was horrific as security staff forced us down into an enclosed pen to walk across this steel bridge over the top of where the Barca fans were walking, but they had rushed either side of the bridge which means Chelsea were wedged against the concrete wall at the bottom of the pen. Then the batons came out to try to get them moving but there was literally nowhere to go with security 'batch releasing’ people over the bridge...this is where we saw horrific scenes of kids and women being beaten by riot cops essentially I’ve never seen anything like it. Trying to find police to report it to we were just laughed off and told to move on. Definitely going to report this to Chelsea to see if that is another route as the police here are indifferent.”
 

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zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
What you are expecting him to beat this Barca with this Chelsea? Thats similar to the Bayern - Juve gap from back in the day. That very same Barca trashed us with the same score at the beginning of the season before they even hit big form and we are a much better team than Chelsea.

CL group qualification is their target on their first return to the CL. Had they got an easier draw like Sevilla I'd have been disappointed but Barca will obviously steamroll Chelsea any day of the week.
nice how you ignore that we didn’t hit form either (we never do with Max really) and had injuries :baus:
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
75,018
Chelsea fans beaten by security here is the video
https://mobile.twitter.com/_robbbbbbb/status/974055589486694400/video/1

"I was there tonight, it was horrendous.From the beginning they were aggressive. More stewards and police than I'v seen at any other match, including in Baku which is a human rights disaster area and Fenerbache. Thy searched us aggressively, my ass was aggressively groped three times during the search. Armed stewards looked at us aggressively throughout. There was NO presence on the Barcelona side however, even when they were aggressive, nothing was done.

On the way out, me and everyone around were walking out peacefully.They ran past me up the ramp, pushing me out the way, as if to get in position. A moment later, they just charged, weapons out, hitting indiscriminately. They squeezed us into a confined space, and even after fans fell onto the floor including kids, they kept pushing and hitting. Was either get hit, or trample a kid. I stood, pointed at the kid on the floor in front of me, and held my hand out pleading to a steward saying please stop. He looked at me, the kid, my hand, and then just smacked my wrist. Is bruised and swollen and feels tricky to move my thumb. This was not provoked, and they were not stopping even when people hit the floor. The same guy then turned to my dad who was facing the opposite direction to him, arms out trying to protect those in front, and just smacked him three times in the lower back. This wasn't just one asshole steward, it was an organised, planned attack. They were ready to act this way, they were armed with batons at the ready from the start. Someone else posted a video, and just look around on twitter to see other pics and videos and accounts of what happened.

Please, anyone here who sees this or any other tweet or whatever, post tweet retweet like, email UEFA, Barcelona, anything. I am furious at what happened to me tonight. People, kids, could have been trampled. I saw a guy bleeding from his head. They hit a fan in the back of the leg, and when he dropped to his knee they kept hitting, now at his head and upper back. I am furious, and I beg everything here to try and help get this seen, talked about, and responded to. Iv been going to matches since I was 7, and I have seen nothing like the shit on display tonight"

“Absolute fucking shambles from the security tonight. They arranged to organise for the fans to enter via gate C/access 21, then closed off the main road through to that area forcing us to walk via street level around the entire block of the stadium.

We heard stories of fans being split into groups and one group on the Main Street being forced into a street where Barca fans were waiting to peg bricks and golf balls at the chelsea fans. Organised by the police of course.

After the game was horrific as security staff forced us down into an enclosed pen to walk across this steel bridge over the top of where the Barca fans were walking, but they had rushed either side of the bridge which means Chelsea were wedged against the concrete wall at the bottom of the pen. Then the batons came out to try to get them moving but there was literally nowhere to go with security 'batch releasing’ people over the bridge...this is where we saw horrific scenes of kids and women being beaten by riot cops essentially I’ve never seen anything like it. Trying to find police to report it to we were just laughed off and told to move on. Definitely going to report this to Chelsea to see if that is another route as the police here are indifferent.”
Spanish police have always been very reckless with away fans, especially English.
 

Vialli_92

Senior Member
Mar 7, 2013
6,500
Spanish police have always been very reckless with away fans, especially English.
Yes I believe from what someone said on reddit the abuse started when they or someone chanted about the independence elections and calling Barcelona pro Spain, not sure if that is entirely through but it looks like Barcelona don't do banter
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,349
So.. Draw is on Friday
Preferences:
1. Sevilla
2. Liverpool
3. Roma
4. Man City
5. Bayern
6. Real Madrid
7. Barcelona

Even though I ranked Barcelona as the toughest opponent to face - one thing that might cheer us up if we do get Barcelona - Busquets might not play the first game due to injury - last year we met Barcelona with Busquets banned for the first game and we all know how it went...
Best Possible draw to me is:
Juve Sevilla
Bayern Real
Barcelona City
Roma Liverpool

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Last 8:

City vs Barca
Real vs Roma
Bayern vs Liverpool
Juve vs Sevilla

Semi

Juve vs Barca
Real vs Bayern


Final

Juve vs Bayern
I rather see Liverpool getting an easier task like Roma so whoever going to the semis will meet us and then

Semi

Juve vs Liverpool/Roma
Real/Bayern vs Barcelona/City

Final

Juve vs one of the 4 teams

That way we almost guaranteed another final... which whoever we face we will be the underdogs (both because its a final so -15% and since 3 of those 4 are probably better than us...)
 

Vialli_92

Senior Member
Mar 7, 2013
6,500
Anyone but City and Real Madrid for me, Roma would be the best draw for Italian football as it guarantees an italian team in the semi finals

I hope City and Real draw each other so one of the stronger teams gets knocked out
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
75,018
Yes I believe from what someone said on reddit the abuse started when they or someone chanted about the independence elections and calling Barcelona pro Spain, not sure if that is entirely through but it looks like Barcelona don't do banter
Doesn't surprise me they got that reaction. They generally don't even like large groups together, especially don't like people standing their ground.
 

TheLaz

Senior Member
Oct 6, 2011
5,540
So.. Draw is on Friday
Preferences:
1. Sevilla
2. Liverpool
3. Roma
4. Man City
5. Bayern
6. Real Madrid
7. Barcelona

Even though I ranked Barcelona as the toughest opponent to face - one thing that might cheer us up if we do get Barcelona - Busquets might not play the first game due to injury - last year we met Barcelona with Busquets banned for the first game and we all know how it went...
Best Possible draw to me is:
Juve Sevilla
Bayern Real
Barcelona City
Roma Liverpool

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I rather see Liverpool getting an easier task like Roma so whoever going to the semis will meet us and then

Semi

Juve vs Liverpool/Roma
Real/Bayern vs Barcelona/City

Final

Juve vs one of the 4 teams

That way we almost guaranteed another final... which whoever we face we will be the underdogs (both because its a final so -15% and since 3 of those 4 are probably better than us...)
Roma > Sevilla > Liverpool > Bayern > City > Barca > Real
 

BayernFan

Senior Member
Feb 17, 2016
7,124
This would be a dream come true for me. I really feel sore that we didn't play Bayern in last year's finals. They should have beaten Real and I think we could have beaten them in the finals or potentially, atletico might even have beaten them in the semis and we could beat Atletico

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Yes, out of all the teams left, I really don't want Man City to win. I'd prefer any1 else win over them
If and if and if and if and if and if and if and :depressed
 

BayernFan

Senior Member
Feb 17, 2016
7,124
Talking about scousers. Everytime I hear them speak it makes my ears bleed. Just a dreadfull dialect.

United might be a shit club because of their fans, but at least they speak a decent english. Liverpool just as nasty.

 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,645
I assumed Milan weren't favored to get that far in 2007 :D :p

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It's all about winning, isn't it? The S$#@!, whether we like it or not, ended up winning in 2010. They weren't favorites, but they still managed to win. That's the point I was trying to make.
So you didnt mind Inter winning it? Wtf.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,624
Hopefully Barca and Madrid draw each other, Bayern and City, Roma and liverpool, and we get Sevilla.

We then get Roma and a spaniard gets ze germans.
 

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