Champions League 2016/2017 (46 Viewers)

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JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Leicester is obviously the weakest opponent by a country mile, but they will play exclusively on the counter and have nothing to lose, almost zero pressure. The thought of the gloved rat going up against Bonucci on some random counter after Juve waste 17 chances to score is giving me palpitations already. We are too complacent in games we are big favourites.

I'd like Monaco (City) or Dortmund tbh, the sort of game where you have to be good to go through and it sets us up for progression to one of the best sides.
 

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Bianconero_Aus

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May 26, 2009
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Leicester is obviously the weakest opponent by a country mile, but they will play exclusively on the counter and have nothing to lose, almost zero pressure. The thought of the gloved rat going up against Bonucci on some random counter after Juve waste 17 chances to score is giving me palpitations already. We are too complacent in games we are big favourites.

I'd like Monaco (City) or Dortmund tbh, the sort of game where you have to be good to go through and it sets us up for progression to one of the best sides.
And I'd be all

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Before the game
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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There are still games to be played but IMO the draw will be
Leicester - Real Madrid
Juve - Dortmund
Atl - City/Monaco (IMO Monaco will be there after 2-0 on City)
Barcelona - Bayern
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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One thing is for sure though, if Juve draws one of Bayern, Real or Barcelona and eliminates one of them to reach the semi-final, Allegri is definitely winning the treble, 100%.
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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Leicester is obviously the weakest opponent by a country mile, but they will play exclusively on the counter and have nothing to lose, almost zero pressure. The thought of the gloved rat going up against Bonucci on some random counter after Juve waste 17 chances to score is giving me palpitations already. We are too complacent in games we are big favourites.

I'd like Monaco (City) or Dortmund tbh, the sort of game where you have to be good to go through and it sets us up for progression to one of the best sides.


Leicester could be our next Fulham...no thanks!
Gigi is right
BVB or Barcelona


I don't like us to play against Leicester because we have nothing to gain if beat them but we will become whole europe's laughing stock if lost. To me a favorable draw would be Dortmund or Monaco. But whichever team we play against in the quarter final, we have more than 40% chance to win I believe.
Agreed we will have more pressure to win Leicester than any of the teams. Even Porto or sevilla look better on paper, for fact that Leicester are that "shit" we really won't hear the end of it if the unexpected happened and those who think it's not gonna happen, need to start watching some EPL because they are no different to their fans. Buffon is right, he knows what were like, even people here should know too.

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Wittl

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I'd prefer to face Farca or Real in Quater- or Semifinal, than in the Final. I can't remember a lost Championsleague Final of those two Teams in the last 20 years.. And they have won in this time about 9 Titles together. I think it's easier to eliminate them before.
But of course it would be even better they eliminate each other.
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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I'd prefer to face Farca or Real in Quater- or Semifinal, than in the Final. I can't remember a lost Championsleague Final of those two Teams in the last 20 years.. And they have won in this time about 9 Titles together. I think it's easier to eliminate them before.
But of course it would be even better they eliminate each other.
this, if we have to face those two, I'd rather do it in a 2 legged tie in 1/4 or 1/2 finals, Real has won their last 5 finals, Barca their last 4
 

Orgut

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this, if we have to face those two, I'd rather do it in a 2 legged tie in 1/4 or 1/2 finals, Real has won their last 5 finals, Barca their last 4
Real doesnt worry me QF SF or Final...
Atl Madrid does and Barca does
Our chances against every team IMO
Barcelona 30-70 - MSN can create and score out of nowhere..
Atl Madrid 40-60 - Their style could kill our midfield as 2 men mid might not be suited to face them
Bayern 45-55 - Honestly I think we are at their level with Bayern being more effective and history suggests we should want to avoid them...
Real 50-50 - History say 50-50 and they are better in attack while we are better organized and way better defensively...
Dortmund 75-25 - No need to say anything - They have Obe and 1 talented Dembele we have 11 players
Leicester 90-10 - 15th in their league and fights relegation in their league - Should I really add anything?!
Man City/Monaco 65-35 - City are overrated while Monaco underrated - Both to me are at the same level and my bet is that Monaco will go through with 2-0 at home but since its undecided Ill talk about both - City are not great despite having some star names like Aguero while Monaco are a better unit than City and are playing quite well - Both of them not at our level though...
 

pitbull

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Barcelona 30-70 - MSN can create and score out of nowhere..
I think you're overly pessimistic with your valuations, but this one is just plain ridiculous, I'd say it's actually the other way around and they'd have about 30-70 chance to win against us. MSN is all glorious and nice, but the rest of their team is clearly inferior to what we have and our attack isn't too shabby either.
 

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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Leicester is obviously the weakest opponent by a country mile, but they will play exclusively on the counter and have nothing to lose, almost zero pressure. The thought of the gloved rat going up against Bonucci on some random counter after Juve waste 17 chances to score is giving me palpitations already. We are too complacent in games we are big favourites.

I'd like Monaco (City) or Dortmund tbh, the sort of game where you have to be good to go through and it sets us up for progression to one of the best sides.
Since when we are considered favorites against EPL sides? As ironic as it may sound, lots of people would actually at least see our tie with Leicester as 50/50. Also, I don't think we would underestimate any team in CL 1/4. We are accustomed to teams playing 11 players behind the ball at J Stadium and Leicester defense doesn't seem too reliable so I'm sure we would score past them at least once. In England they would have no other way but to attack and we all know what would have happened in that game.
 

Gigiventus

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Mar 3, 2017
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We would smash Leicester, no questions asked. Sevilla had to miss 1000 chances, 2 penalties, and get a red card to lose. We are not Sevilla.

I only don't want Atletico because it just sucks playing against them, too dangerous with Simeone, and Bayern because we just played them last year and I don't want any of that at this stage.

I'd love Barca or Madrid, we'd take them out.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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I think you're overly pessimistic with your valuations, but this one is just plain ridiculous, I'd say it's actually the other way around and they'd have about 30-70 chance to win against us. MSN is all glorious and nice, but the rest of their team is clearly inferior to what we have and our attack isn't too shabby either.
Their attack is better than us by a mile
Their midfield still has Iniesta in it while Basquets or whatever his name is isnt bad at all
We are better in one department while they are better in two
If you think we are superior to Barcelona you are obviously biased!
In terms of players
Barcelona
Real
Juve=Bayern
Atl Madrid

When you take style of play into the equation I rather face Real than Atl Madrid but I would definitely like to see us avoid Barca - Even if it would be soooooo sweet to go pass them as
1. In my country 70% of the people are rooting for Barca no matter who are their opponent 25% are rooting for Real while the other 5% who have me in it root for other teams.. This makes me dislike Barcelona even more as everything that is media related is too much of pro Barca
2. I dislike their way of play even if I disliked their game more in the past... Too much unnecessary passing annoying Tiki Taka style!
P.S my dislike for Barcelona made me like Real a bit even though I dont really care if they win or lose...
 
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