++ [ originally posted by Luigi Vampa ] ++
what does juventini beging gutted about your performances have to do with anything. yeah we were beaten by inter and lazio but we know we were bad so its okay? i dont get that either. the point wasnt about how you guys reacted to it, it was that you lost 2 big games and in fact, havent beaten any of the top 5.
My point was that the performances against Inter/Lazio really do not reflect the strenght of Juventus, and I think most everyone knows. We had a horrible week. We didn't play a particularly good game against Roma either when we drew them, whereas Dida again was the MOM when you drew us at home- a game we thoroughly deserved to win.
I can only imagine that you mean top 4 btw., because top 5 would include ourselves, and why the debacles of the INter/Lazio games were surely about us hammering ourselves... that cant really count can it
? Otherwise the last remaining top team is Parma who we crushed, but I'd agree they're not a top side even if they beat Lazio and drew you guys.
++ [ originally posted by Luigi Vampa ] ++wanting/expecting to see attacking football isnt a myth. so youre not really dispelling anything. whats wrong with wanting to see something? im sure most milanisti realize that we havent been great offensively, especially in the cl.
Of course it's wouldn't be if it was only the desire..., but it's what your own players claim in interviews when comparing to Juventus. It's what your President and administrating Director points to. It's what your offensive signings dictate, and it's the song YOU were singing throughout most of last season. It's the image people associate with Milan largely because of those heady old Sacchi days. And it's a myth that it's somehow a value in the organico of Milan.
++ [ originally posted by Luigi Vampa ] ++it seems that youre distracted by the opinions expressed by milanisti. youre conducting a debate that never existed. but on the subject, xt is a unique place and theres a lot of different opinions expressed, many of which are opinions i never hear anywhere else. you put too much weight into opinions like bonos about a european mentality. that hardly represents the view of milanisti and any italian milanisti would scoff at it - and they have. if you want to base your opinion of milanisti from what you see at xt be my guest, but youre only doing yourself a disservice.
Then- as most was addressed above, if you're so emancipated on the subject- how come you couldn't just take in my initial post for what it was? I merely said that Milan is not an entertaining side, and that in the CL your lack of scoring has been rather absurd for some time + I explained why in my view Roma is a bigger rival for us.
++ [ originally posted by Luigi Vampa ] ++about the barca games, the way i remember it you guys were outplayed pretty bad in both games. barca made you look pretty bad but you still got through. so theres no reason to bring up our performances against bayern (which were much better than yours against barca).
Then you don't remember the home game very well. It could be excused as the game was poor, but we dictated the match; had more chances and ought to have won it. At Barca we were under siege and were lucky to go through. Never denied that.
++ [ originally posted by Luigi Vampa ] ++and i dont know what you meant about the reevaluation of 'people like us.' thats flown completely over my head as i read the post again and i dont see anything about that. so i really dont know what youre talking about. 'splain yourself;-)
You said:
"we probably have a reputation for creativeness because people like us glen. were a loveable team whereas people like juve like they like hospitals."
So- reading your last post where it seems you agree that you're not a very imaginative or entertanining side... perhaps you'll understand that this particular comment seems rather odd....
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