Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (54 Viewers)

[Vinman]

This was a decent read...

Calciopoli Explained
Yes they were framed, let me spend a moment and break it down:
The characters:
Antonio Giraudo - Director at Juventus (Part of the media dubbed "Triade")
Luciano Moggi - Director at Juventus (Part of the media dubbed "Triade")
Roberto Bettega - Director at Juventus (Part of the media dubbed "Triade")
Massimo Moratti - President of Inter Milan
Guido Rossi - The judge in charge of the Calciopoli trials
Telecom Italia - Telephone/Mobile service provider in Italy
Pairetto - Serie A Referee Designator (In charge of choosing referees for games)
Bergamo - Serie A and Champions League Referee Designator (In charge of choosing referees for games)
Giacinto Facchetti - Then Inter General Director (Deceased)

In May of 2006, Telecom Italia leaked telephone transcripts to all the newspapers in Italy of conversations between Luciano Moggi and Pairetto & Bergamo. The conversations revealed that Moggi would call them and say things like:
"What the hell kind of referee was that? That was clearly a penalty! You're man is blind, you better give us a good referee in the next game"
"Who is our referee in the next game? What!! he is horrible!"
and in one case "I want Referee X for the next game." This was a summer friendly that meant nothing. It wasn't a league or cup match.
This was a shock that a club director was calling a referee designator.
But what Telecom Italia didn't leak to the media was the conversations between Fachetti (Inter Director) and Bergamo. In fact in a Sky interview Bergamo openly admitted that no delegate called him more than Facchetti. There is even one conversation where Fachetti is asking Pairetto for a good referee for a game vs Valencia in the Q-Finals of the Champions League after they had lost the first leg. Why wasn't this leaked to the papers?
Moggi was accused of selecting referees.
Moggi was accused of fixing matches.
Moggi was accused of giving Maseratis to referees.

Lets now look at Guido Rossi. Guido Rossi was the Vice-President of Telecom Italia. Guido Rossi was a board member of Pirelli. Massimo Moratti is the president of Inter. Massimo Moratti is a board member of Telecom Italia. Massimo Moratti is very close friends with Guido Rossi.

After the phone transcripts the head of the Italian Federation was forced to resign (Franco Carraro). Guess who was appointed as the new head of the Italian Football Federation? None other than Guido Rossi.
Guido Rossi's first task was sending Juventus and several other clubs (Milan, Fiorentina, Parma etc.) to a trial where the judge was none other than GUIDO ROSSI!
A man that has no experience in football is installed as the head of the FA and as the judge in the biggest scandal in Italian Sport history!

The trials lasted a few weeks. You know how much time Juventus were given to defend themselves and to argue their case? 45 minutes. In a trial that lasted weeks, they were given 45 minutes! The Juve lawyers asked that the telephone transcripts be played in court so that they can argue that the proof is very weak. The Judge (Guido Rossi) refused the request! The reason this whole scandal erupted was the phone transcripts. The biggest evidence used to accuse Juve was the phone transcripts and not even one minute was played for the court to hear!

Guido Rossi ended the trials by convicting Juve of "Unsportsmanship"! What the hell does that mean!
The only match that was proved to be fixed was a Parma vs Fiorentina match that helped Fiorentina escape relegation.

Juve, Milan, Lazio, Fiorentina were demoted to Serie B. Days later Milan, Lazio & Fiorentina were reinstated in serie A. And Juve's negative 30 points in Serie B were reduced to 17.

Juve obviously outraged at the mockery of the trials threatened to take the matter to Civil Courts (Real Court of Law, where the Law is properly applied).
But UEFA and FIFA forbid Government intervention in football and if Juve had taken the matter to Civil Courts, Serie A would have been put on a hold. All Italian Clubs would have been banned from European competitions and the National team would have been banned from qualifying for Euro 2008. In other words Italian football would have come to a grinding halt.
Two hours before Juve were supposed to take the matter to the Civil Court, Juve surprisingly withdrew their appeal and "surprisingly" days later Juve's 17 point penalty were reduced to 9 points.

After the trials were over and the new seasons had started, the Italian Federation realized that Guido Rossi's position as President and his affiliation with Inter Milan and Massimo Moratti was deemed as conflict of interest and he was asked to step down. A little too late, the damage was done.

Guido Rossi was rewarded for his hard work to return to Telecom Italia as Vice President.

I know it's a long read, but if you read it it will make much more sense. Calciopoli or Farsopoli was a joke. It was an attempt to stop the dominance of Juve and Milan and shift it to Inter.

Oh by the way, the next two seasons in Serie A (when things are "clean"), there was a study done by Cambridge University that Referee Errors were at an all time high with Inter Milan being the biggest beneficiaries of these "errors".

In 2008 Gazetta Dello Sport an Italian Sports Newspaper released a table that showed that if there were no Referee Errors, Inter would have been 4th instead of 1st and Juve would have been 1st instead of 3rd.
In 2009 they did the same thing and revealed that Milan should have won the league if it wasnt for referee errors and not Inter.
(http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66121)

+ fucking rep !!!

all you guys who believe we were guilty, read this article a few times, and let the TRUTH sink in...something myself and a few others like Gsol have been trying to tell you since this fiasco started

Moggi, please relieve the fucking frog in charge !!!

 

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[Mark]

It doesn't even mention the powers at be in the sporting court adding or inventing(some would say) an article in the sporting justice code that would be the main article that dropped Juve in B by adding 5-6 small infractions into a big one.

That and other shit that happened pissed me off. I don't agree with the verdicts seeing how it was handled. I do believe Moggi pushed the line and talked too much but getting us in B? I don't believe so. In the final decision they specifically mention there was no match fixing.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Why did I read that? All that does is pisses me off after I got over it. Let me know when we look like getting back our titles, etc. Until then, this just works me up.

 

[C4ISR]

The wiretaps were not even conducted by a legitimate investigative body. It's amazing how the media never mentioned this fact. They were from Telecom Italia. Considering that Telecom Italia was a parent company of Inter Milan (not anymore though), take w/e snippets they leaked with a grain of salt. Outside of football, Telecom Italia also pulled the same shit on other businesses, except ppl went to jail for it unlike the wiretaps of calciopoli.

As for those who still believe we were guilty of match fixing, what piece of evidence are you basing your opinion on?

 

[Max]

Lol what a BS story about Vieri.

Inter shiteheads will have what's coming to them

What, another Scudetto?

 

[Tommy]

+ rep @ weedguru. Hope all this shit comes to light one day

 

[Sadomin]

Love how no one is critical of the article and its lack of sources.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

The question should be asked

Why did Juventus not defend itself more strongly during the whole scandal?

Montezemolo - Moratti relationship
http://blog.ju29ro.com/2007/07/montezemolo-moratti-una-persona-perbene.html

and

Ferrari - TIM sponsorhip
http://www.italiaspeed.com/2006/motorsport/f1/other/05/telecom_italia/1805.html

 

[JCK]

This thread never stops to amaze me.

 

[Elvin]

As for those who still believe we were guilty of match fixing, what piece of evidence are you basing your opinion on?

Those so called "fans" never stop to discuss me to the bones.

 

[Salvo]

i have always thought we were innocent, to this day i do. what proof is there?

why were the refs aloud to continue reffing and not serve out there ban? why is it the refs didnt say all this happened? did a team like ours really need to match fix?

was all jelousy, inter knew they were never going to catch us.

give us the scudetti that were stolen from us.

 

[ZAF3000]

Montezemolo - Moratti relationship
http://blog.ju29ro.com/2007/07/montezemolo-moratti-una-persona-perbene.html

and

Ferrari - TIM sponsorhip
http://www.italiaspeed.com/2006/motorsport/f1/other/05/telecom_italia/1805.html

Its true.. There was an inside help from IFIL. Ferrari was about to loose millions in the sponsorship deal. It is believed that IFIL had pressured juventus to pull the plug on the Court appeal.

 

[blondu]

This thread never stops to amaze me.

what's your belief in this jack?

 

[X Æ A-12]

Its true.. There was an inside help from IFIL. Ferrari was about to loose millions in the sponsorship deal. It is believed that IFIL had pressured juventus to pull the plug on the Court appeal.

They should have compensated us financially for that

 

[Tommy]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]New Calciopoli revelations[/FONT]

Friday 6 November, 2009​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]A witness at the Calciopoli trial in Naples has spoken of his belief that balls used to draw referees for games in the 2004-05 season were in fact 'tricked'.

Manfredi Martino, the former secretary to the National Refereeing Commission [CAN] also alleged that former referee designator Paolo Bergamo and Pierluigi Pairetto asked him to put pieces of paper with the names of certain referees into specific balls.

“On two occasions Bergamo and Pairetto told me explicitly to put the names of certain games and the names of certain referees into the balls that were easily recognisable,” Martino said.

He went on to explain how the balls were recognisable, saying that they were discoloured and looked as if they had been used before.

Martino spoke specifically about the draw between a match between Milan and Juventus, which at the time was being billed as a title decider.

“My sensation during the draw for the referee for that game was that something hadn't gone right because there was a strange bout of coughing from Bergamo when the journalist employed to make the draw chose the referees' yellow ball.”

The testimony has come under scrutiny even from chief prosecutor Giuseppe Narducci.

Luciano Moggi's lawyer Maurilio Prioreschi also asked Martino: “Why didn't you say so before?”

To which Martino responded: “Perhaps I said it and the Carabinieri didn't verbalise it.”

The trial continues.
Must be one of Moratti's illegitimate sons
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[Mark]

Coughingopoli?

+ the ref for that game was Collina. Yeah, he was certainly one of Moggi's men.

 

[Mohad]

I hope that doesn't show more disaster in the future if there will be another Calciopoli.

 

[Snoop]

Love how no one is critical of the article and its lack of sources.

Are you telling me you read all that?

This thread never stops to amaze me.

Juve was guilty!

That's the spirit, just tell them that

 

[Osman]

Coughingopoli?

+ the ref for that game was Collina. Yeah, he was certainly one of Moggi's men.

I was just about to say this, not only is it ridicolous notion, but that he chooses to say the game that was fixed and had a chosen ref is that big game, which I and everyone else should remember vividly, and that the ref was the poster boy for cancer, Collina, who to say the least was far from a favourite of Juve's heh.

 

[JCK]

what's your belief in this jack?

I believe in one thing, Juventus is the club I love. It's the club that I save money to travel to Italy watch them play. It's the club that makes me want to watch football. It's the club that I am simply a fan of.

And to be honest, anything else doesn't really matter. I have no hate whatsoever, I don't believe in conspiracy theories nor I do believe in plans from others to destroy the club I love.

Does this answer your question?