Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (52 Viewers)

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I was actually having a good conversation though before Gsol got nuts again.

....and he never even answere my original question.

 

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[Franky4Fingers]

I'm not, Dutchy.

No one but the sub-oceanic-tulip-land-dwellers then GSOL!

You did when saying NO ONE takes him seriously. :eyebrows: int:

 

[JCK]

I was actually having a good conversation though before Gsol got nuts again.

....and he never even answere my original question.

That's why you should ignore him and stop posting in his thread.

 

[Cronios]

Burke, you are not allowed to post in this thread.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

You did when saying NO ONE takes him seriously. :eyebrows: int:

But I mean how can one when he talks of all this....and nothing happens. A lot of people understand that he is knowledgeable on this stuff, but I mean the Calciopoli stuff is years over...and he said the only reason he posts this stuff is to change the minds of us and inform, well it has changed very few minds, and people just think he is a rambler. You have to admit he is very long-winded. But I won't speak for you anymore. I'll say a lont, or some, something like that.

But I'll stop posting when my question is answered, and it was a legit one at that.

 

[JCK]

No you will stop posting now.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

okay.....

 

[Franky4Fingers]

But I mean how can one when he talks of all this....and nothing happens. A lot of people understand that he is knowledgeable on this stuff, but I mean the Calciopoli stuff is years over...and he said the only reason he posts this stuff is to change the minds of us and inform, well it has changed very few minds, and people just think he is a rambler. You have to admit he is very long-winded. But I won't speak for you anymore. I'll say a lont, or some, something like that.

But I'll stop posting when my question is answered, and it was a legit one at that.

Actually, I find it very interesting. I like conspiracies :eyebrows:
And I do think some weird things happened that particular summer.

 

[gsol]

What was the question Burke, sorry but I usually don't read your comments.

State it again

 

[Azzurri7]

I try but my tolerance of immaturity gets tested from time to time.

And by holding it right, you'll be spot on.

 

[gsol]

Burke
If this was your question then the answer is;

The rules was changed duiring the trial and then changed back after. That means that Juve were wrongfully sentenced because they could only be sentenced in accordance with the rules at the time of the infraction.

If the origial question was regarding the Interista you'll have to ask him to clarify. He has admitted here to being one. If he's lying only he can say.

If your question is regarding changing the past, I answered that. The decisions are being appealed but even without the appeals, knowing the truth is important to some so let them hear it.

 

[will luvs juve]

Burke
If this was your question then the answer is;

The rules was changed duiring the trial and then changed back after. That means that Juve were wrongfully sentenced because they could only be sentenced in accordance with the rules at the time of the infraction.

If the origial question was regarding the Interista you'll have to ask him to clarify. He has admitted here to being one. If he's lying only he can say.

If your question is regarding changing the past, I answered that. The decisions are being appealed but even without the appeals, knowing the truth is important to some so let them hear it.

so basicaly they changed the rules so juve got relegated??

 

[Kosta]

Beside clearing Juventus image what other benefit can we expect if the appeal is successful , financial compensation, revoked title from 04/05 given back ... etc. Could you explain more to these what if's ?

 

[will luvs juve]

i just hope that it gets our reputation back. also we better get the titles back that would show up inter . lol

 

[gsol]

so basicaly they changed the rules so juve got relegated??

Exactly, and then they changed them back.

 

[will luvs juve]

Exactly, and then they changed them back.

are juve appealing about this??? and if we do will we get our scudettoes back?? btw sorry bout all the questions

 

[gsol]

The appeal requests financial restitution for the sponsorship money lost for missing a year of Serie A, Champions League and even the Supercoppa Italiana plus all fines related to the trial. It also requests the reassigning of the 05 and 06 titles.

In addition a punitive damage figure would need to be established by the European Court of Commerce for image damage.

For the moment the restitution requested is about 250,000,000 Euros. No word on what the punitive damages could amount to.

Juve can't appeal anymore because they retracted their Civil Court appeal hours before standing trial. The reasons for that are posted in a comment entitled the Inside job. If you can't find it I'll re-post it.

An association called Giu Le Mani Dalla Juve (created by a lawyer in Italy) have appealed it and the appeal was accepted last summer.

Also Moggi is appealing in Civil Court in Italy.

 

[C4ISR]

The fact that the structured article no longer exists alone makes the sentence illegitimate. not to mention the missing disciplinaria trial, the refusal of video, witness, or wire tap evidence, the leaking of prosection material to the papers prior to the trial, and the use of wire transcripts from unwarranted wire taps that violate the Italian Citizen's constitutional right to privacy.

In any case they did not have the grounds to legitimately relegate them...so they created the grounds on the spot. If you can acknowledge that then we are on the same page.

This is what irritates me the most. Any sense of legal decency was thrown away, yet ppl have the nerve to talk about what is right and fair in terms of Juventus cheating (something they cant prove anyway, which only makes this whole issue that much more illogical)

The irony is, even if we assume the integrity of the evidence wasn't jeaporized (which no judge in his right mind would ever agree, given the nature of how it was collected, and by who), the evidence in itseft is utter shit. It proves nothing. Thats the beauty of it. The rest is just icing on the cake to further prove were right.

I really cant understand how any rational person can accept what happened to us. It just doesn't make any sense.

 

[Pingo]

Nah, you just are angry no one takes you seriously.

Hehehe, but u got allot to say, right? Allot of ppl are takeing him seriosly...i'm one of them... Why are u "kicking" gsol, and make stupid remarks...proof him wrong and than keep yaking your mouth off... But i guess, you don't wonna understand, seeing that you are a Bayern fan...


Question for you...Do u feel, that changing the rules duiring the trial and then changing tham back after it's over, is legal? That seems right to you?

Gsol just keep ignoring them, they are just shallow, immature and not open minded (you know who you are)... Keep going and the truth will come out...

This is what irritates me the most. Any sense of legal decency was thrown away, yet ppl have the nerve to talk about what is right and fair in terms of Juventus cheating (something they cant prove anyway, which only makes this whole issue that much more illogical)

The irony is, even if we assume the integrity of the evidence wasn't jeaporized (which no judge in his right mind would ever agree, given the nature of how it was collected, and by who), the evidence in itseft is utter shit. It proves nothing. Thats the beauty of it. The rest is just icing on the cake to further prove were right.

I really cant understand how any rational person can accept what happened to us. It just doesn't make any sense.

My point exactly...Like they (so calld Juve supporters), want Juve to be guilty...I mean, go and stick your head where the sun don't shine...

 

[ZhiXin]

Hehehe, but u got allot to say, right? Allot of ppl are takeing him seriosly...i'm one of them... Why are u "kicking" gsol, and make stupid remarks...proof him wrong and than keep yaking your mouth off... But i guess, you don't wonna understand, seeing that you are a Bayern fan...


Question for you...Do u feel, that changing the rules duiring the trial and then changing tham back after it's over, is legal? That seems right to you?

Gsol just keep ignoring them, they are just shallow, immature and not open minded (you know who you are)... Keep going and the truth will come out...



My point exactly...Like they (so calld Juve supporters), want Juve to be guilty...I mean, go and stick your head where the sun don't shine...

Oh man I thought I'm going to read 4 more pages of useful information, never expect this thread to degrade just like that.

Come on guys, stick on topic. Don't you think that we should know more on what happened during the trail?