for the record i personally am against the wearing of the 'burqa' as i think it is quite alienating, but thats nothing but my opinion, ergo irrelevant
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I disagree. Any terrorist organization can use this as their key. And I can give you too many example mate.
That's why I said they're mentally afraid. You proved my point mate. So the ones covering themselves satisfy their God and the ones not are not satisfying him? This makes our mothers what? You can satisfy god in many ways, you can pray to him, you can thank him every minute but covering yourself is in no way satisfying God. And there's just no way one can convince me that a woman would rather hide her beauty to cover herself unless she's one of the ugliest woman on the planet and resembles our Snoop.
How does he see her? he sees her face only right? He doesn't see her hands he doesn't see toes he doesn't see nothing man apart from the face and infront of her mother and the whole family
... why can't they go also out before there's anything official?? What if one of them is mentally fucked and can't live for a day with the other?
All these tiny things matter Abed. And you know that. You married your wife (allah ykhalikon la ba3ed) and you're very aware why I'm asking all these questions.
That's why I said they're mentally afraid. You proved my point mate. So the ones covering themselves satisfy their God and the ones not are not satisfying him? This makes our mothers what? You can satisfy god in many ways, you can pray to him, you can thank him every minute but covering yourself is in no way satisfying God. And there's just no way one can convince me that a woman would rather hide her beauty to cover herself unless she's one of the ugliest woman on the planet and resembles our Snoop.
How does he see her? he sees her face only right? He doesn't see her hands he doesn't see toes he doesn't see nothing man apart from the face and infront of her mother and the whole family
... why can't they go also out before there's anything official?? What if one of them is mentally fucked and can't live for a day with the other? All these tiny things matter Abed. And you know that. You married your wife (allah ykhalikon la ba3ed) and you're very aware why I'm asking all these questions.
My mother wears an abaya (not a veil though) because she wants to. My dad wasn't religious, my granddad wasn't religious and her brother is the same age as I am and he definitely isn't religious. She chose to wear it and I'm glad I live in a country where she can exercise that right. And oh, my mom is damn pretty (unlike me
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Was your mother wearing an Abaya before getting married? And Wearing an Abaya is a lot different than Burqa or veil. My Mom wears it too at times because she feels more comfortable at home with it
No one has the right to force you to do ANYTHING. And I especially mean a God. Your, mine or who's ever!
I lose all credibility in a God who commands such humane things. I mean, if he's really God by the standard definition, doesn't he have better ways to judge our faith? Can't he read our minds? Why does he have to judge someone by their appearance? It's something only a human would think of. If there is a God who had the power to create us and everything around us, he could certainly create a better system to judge our faith. A better system that will let us practice OUR free will at least.
I lose all credibility in a God who commands such humane things. I mean, if he's really God by the standard definition, doesn't he have better ways to judge our faith? Can't he read our minds? Why does he have to judge someone by their appearance? It's something only a human would think of. If there is a God who had the power to create us and everything around us, he could certainly create a better system to judge our faith. A better system that will let us practice OUR free will at least.
That's basically what I was trying to say earlier. She wasn't wearing in her peak or lets say when she was in certain age where all women enjoy showing their feminine side and beauty just like every single woman/lady on this planet.
However, Abaya is totally different than a Burqa or Hijab. But I just wanted to make a point.
However, Abaya is totally different than a Burqa or Hijab. But I just wanted to make a point.
Examples for what? Do you mean they can hide bombs under their burqa? Can't seikhs do that under their Amama?
Look. In this country where I live, when the cops have some suspicion regarding any lady whether she is wearing burqa or not, they call the female police and those go to that lady and make sure of her identity and remove any suspicions. Can't they do the same in France?
I do not tell you that a waman should wear a burqa. I say that she has the right to wear it regardless of opposing opinions that are baseless in my personal viewpoint.
He should see her hands and feet. There are many details for this but this is very far away from our topic.
So what? I can see the face of a guy that may stab me to death. Will that decrease the pain?
Look. In this country where I live, when the cops have some suspicion regarding any lady whether she is wearing burqa or not, they call the female police and those go to that lady and make sure of her identity and remove any suspicions. Can't they do the same in France?
I do not tell you that a waman should wear a burqa. I say that she has the right to wear it regardless of opposing opinions that are baseless in my personal viewpoint.
How does he see her? he sees her face only right? He doesn't see her hands he doesn't see toes he doesn't see nothing man apart from the face and infront of her mother and the whole family... why can't they go also out before there's anything official?? What if one of them is mentally fucked and can't live for a day with the other?
All these tiny things matter Abed. And you know that. You married your wife (allah ykhalikon la ba3ed) and you're very aware why I'm asking all these questions.
... why can't they go also out before there's anything official?? What if one of them is mentally fucked and can't live for a day with the other? All these tiny things matter Abed. And you know that. You married your wife (allah ykhalikon la ba3ed) and you're very aware why I'm asking all these questions.
So what? I can see the face of a guy that may stab me to death. Will that decrease the pain?
As a Muslim myself, I don't consider these things as God's command but more of a tradition thing that was used/followed hundreds of years ago and still... That's why I keep mentioning that the problem is mentally and not a question of God's command.
Also speaking scientifically, it's really unhealthy covering your hair, if your hair doesn't breathe specially when it's hot outside and your skin head sweats a lot it's unhealthy, there's a name for this but I forgot what you call it.
Also speaking scientifically, it's really unhealthy covering your hair, if your hair doesn't breathe specially when it's hot outside and your skin head sweats a lot it's unhealthy, there's a name for this but I forgot what you call it.
You're missing the whole point...
Can a woman dress like a Sheikh? She can't becaus you will identify the face and the look.
Can a man dress himself up in a burqa? Yes he can because you can not identify the face.
How can you have suspicions of someone you can not see, Abed? C'mon...
Speaking of rights, can I walk wearing my boxers only in one of the Arab countries, Specially the gulf ones and for instance Iran? I don't think so.
No woman Abed, no woman on this planet enjoys herself covering everything when outside it's 50 degrees. Do you enjoy it when you sweat continuesly? I doubt that.
Better see than not IMO.
Can a woman dress like a Sheikh? She can't becaus you will identify the face and the look.
Can a man dress himself up in a burqa? Yes he can because you can not identify the face.
How can you have suspicions of someone you can not see, Abed? C'mon...
Speaking of rights, can I walk wearing my boxers only in one of the Arab countries, Specially the gulf ones and for instance Iran? I don't think so.
No woman Abed, no woman on this planet enjoys herself covering everything when outside it's 50 degrees. Do you enjoy it when you sweat continuesly? I doubt that.
Better see than not IMO.
that is totally out of this topic. If you want to discuss the mercy of God, we can do it whenever you want.
And yes Abed, we will discuss this sometime.
Oh Habibi, I wish everyone had the beauty, brains and common sense that you do. Sadly not all of them do!
And I agree with your 2nd point too.
What you must understand is that its not the norm though. You cannot make a sweeping generalization (I do get what you are aiming at). I don't want my future wife to wear an abaya or veil or whatever. But if she choses to, then I wouldn't be against it. Its her right. I know plenty of women who do it on their own accord. Hell I know women who do a lot of things against religion, but still chose to wear the hijab/nikab with no force whatsover.
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