Buffon to City, what is your opinion? (1 Viewer)
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Okay whether you like it or not the record books say that Inter won serieA 3 times in a row, the prestige behind it is not my immediate concern and left to another pointless debate and they have achieved that by buying players.
Chelsea in Mourinho's last season only spent money on Malouda and then in January, Anelka, nothing like they spent in his first 2 seasons when the likes of Ferreira, Drogba, Robben, Cech, Carvalho, Essien etc. His 3rd season if that what is when you are refering to they got Sheva and Mikel as their big money signings still not as much as their 1st 2 seasons.
Now to counter that United went out and bought some very good players as well and spent money as they won the league so it is not as if it was 1 poor club that won the league.
Arsenal have lagged behind allowing Liverpool to overtake them because Wenger has refused to spend money.
When I was talking about our midfield what do you think I was talking about? Buying another defensive midfielder? I was talking about creativity and off the ball movement that DP apart we do not even have.
Are you sure Tiago cost that much as that would be madness if we actually spent that kind of amount on him.
Anyways like I said with a more competent board, I would advocate the sale of Buffon as anyone dumb enough to shell out that kind of money on a goalkeeper deserves to be conned.
Buffon is a great goalkeeper, 1 of the best ever but he still at the end of the day, a goalkeeper so I don't see what the big deal is.
I can understand a defender with huge potential or especially a creative youngster with huge potential, but a goalkeeper, please!
Chelsea in Mourinho's last season only spent money on Malouda and then in January, Anelka, nothing like they spent in his first 2 seasons when the likes of Ferreira, Drogba, Robben, Cech, Carvalho, Essien etc. His 3rd season if that what is when you are refering to they got Sheva and Mikel as their big money signings still not as much as their 1st 2 seasons.
Now to counter that United went out and bought some very good players as well and spent money as they won the league so it is not as if it was 1 poor club that won the league.
Arsenal have lagged behind allowing Liverpool to overtake them because Wenger has refused to spend money.
When I was talking about our midfield what do you think I was talking about? Buying another defensive midfielder? I was talking about creativity and off the ball movement that DP apart we do not even have.
Are you sure Tiago cost that much as that would be madness if we actually spent that kind of amount on him.
Anyways like I said with a more competent board, I would advocate the sale of Buffon as anyone dumb enough to shell out that kind of money on a goalkeeper deserves to be conned.
Buffon is a great goalkeeper, 1 of the best ever but he still at the end of the day, a goalkeeper so I don't see what the big deal is.
I can understand a defender with huge potential or especially a creative youngster with huge potential, but a goalkeeper, please!
Selling Buffon would have rather negative knockon effects for the club imo,he is a huge symbol of success & a inspirational player.As Martin said the current Juve board is completely imcompetent & what kind of signal would selling Buffon send?When a star player considers joining a team,various things come into consideration.Are they an established club,will they challenge for honours,what kind of players are on the team & are they financially secure?
Juventus is not a midtable selling club & if there is to be room for growth & improvement,selling is not the answer.
Juventus is not a midtable selling club & if there is to be room for growth & improvement,selling is not the answer.
When we sold Zidane, we bought Nedved, Thuram and Buffon. All three were/are fundamental players for Juve. But I dont see Secco being capable of doing that kind of business.
In all fairness Buffon as a goalkeeper is replaceable, but you cant replace what Buffon stands for and what he means for the club.
So a big no to selling him.
In all fairness Buffon as a goalkeeper is replaceable, but you cant replace what Buffon stands for and what he means for the club.
So a big no to selling him.
Thats the problem here. You see Buffon as a goalkeeper at the end of the day which for me is not the same case. I see Buffon more than a goalkeeper, his influence is very important more like Del Piero's influence inside the dressing room and on the pitch.
Few years ago under Capello mainly, some were considering selling Del Piero when Sir Alex Ferguson,Wenger,Ancelotti,Benitez all were trying to get his services.... the board couldn't do it and i don't think because Moggi or the likes of Cobolli can't sleep at night thinking of Ale, but because icons/legends can't be sold. and because there was no way the fans would have accepted this.
Same goes with Buffon, their influence on the pitch/fans/dressing room goes behind figures. Serie B proved and gave us a clear crystal picture.
It's like we have two roads to pick....
1) You sell Buffon for the big amount, and sell the likes also of Trezeguet, Camoranesi when the good offers come the way.... buy new replacements for these kind of players.
2) You keep Buffon and the likes of him, you sell other players that didn't make their marks nor performed and you find better replacements (not necessarily with big amount of cash).
I can assure you that if you go with the first one, and we will never achieve one single trophy. Why? simple, because in Juventus you never win trophies with new blood making revolution transfers, you win trophies with veterans and with some respected players that have been serving the club for some-time now.
I'm sorry but this is how I saw Juventus in the last 14 years of watching them.
Few years ago under Capello mainly, some were considering selling Del Piero when Sir Alex Ferguson,Wenger,Ancelotti,Benitez all were trying to get his services.... the board couldn't do it and i don't think because Moggi or the likes of Cobolli can't sleep at night thinking of Ale, but because icons/legends can't be sold. and because there was no way the fans would have accepted this.
Same goes with Buffon, their influence on the pitch/fans/dressing room goes behind figures. Serie B proved and gave us a clear crystal picture.
It's like we have two roads to pick....
1) You sell Buffon for the big amount, and sell the likes also of Trezeguet, Camoranesi when the good offers come the way.... buy new replacements for these kind of players.
2) You keep Buffon and the likes of him, you sell other players that didn't make their marks nor performed and you find better replacements (not necessarily with big amount of cash).
I can assure you that if you go with the first one, and we will never achieve one single trophy. Why? simple, because in Juventus you never win trophies with new blood making revolution transfers, you win trophies with veterans and with some respected players that have been serving the club for some-time now.
I'm sorry but this is how I saw Juventus in the last 14 years of watching them.
Thats between Ranieri & Secco.Surely the coach would be consulted when transfers are made.Everybody knows that Juventus are in dire need for an heir to nedved,some creative midfielders & adequate defensive backup.Poulsen was the best they could do.So saying that he doesnt have a full squad is not a valid point imo.
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Thats between Ranieri & Secco.Surely the coach would be consulted when transfers are made.Everybody knows that Juventus are in dire need for an heir to nedved,some creative midfielders & adequate defensive backup.Poulsen was the best they could do.So saying that he doesnt have a full squad is not a valid point imo.
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I think if our board opened up the doors for buffon to leave as an option, I honestly think the major shareholders in this club that have millions in the club would not stand for it. I would expect a huge backlash not only from them but a whole stadium full of pissed off fans. if there is one thing that our board should have learned by now is don't fuck with out best players otherwise the fans will be heard. Selling buffon would be like the chicago bulls selling jordan in his prime to by other "potentially" great players. No one could deny jordans never ending influence in that organisation just like buffons in ours....as azzurri7 said why sell legends for potentials? Legends have already proven themselves, potentials haven't. Sell those who will not make the same mark as buffon, nedved or DP and buy others who might be able too but do not sell our clubs icons. I don't see Pool selling gerrard or roma selling totti...I hate clubs who think they can buy success. I admire wenger even though he hasn't won as much but at least he has the balls to stick to a fucking gameplan instead of spending millions everyyear for the next premadonna...
Buffon: No Man City bid exists
Saturday 29 November, 2008
Gianluigi Buffon gives updates on his fitness, Manchester City’s £65m offer, Calciopoli and the Scudetto race.
The Juventus goalkeeper has been sidelined for six weeks after a recurring thigh strain, but resumed training in recent days.
“I tried the first little run and looked like an old man. I will be back for the new year,” he smiled on La 7 television last night.
The interview was wide-ranging and touched on a number of subjects, such as the reported £65m offer to join Manchester City.
“Nobody has offered me anything and I didn’t even take the issue into consideration,” assured the 2006 World Cup winner.
Buffon was asked what his biggest mistake was in his long career and he looked back at an incident that marred his Parma days.
“I put on a shirt to charge up the players with written on it: 'Boia chi molla’ (death to those who give up). I didn’t know it was a Fascist motto from the war, though.
“I made other mistakes, but am most ashamed of 'buying’ a diploma, because that showed a lack of respect to those who studied hard for their qualifications.”
However, Buffon did not count the Calciopoli years as among his regrets despite seeing two Scudetti stripped and the club demoted to Serie B.
“I think Luciano Moggi had some things to feel guilty about, but so did quite a few people in different clubs.
“I got the feeling they wanted to damage Juve in particular, then tried the same trick with me and Fabio Cannavaro, too.”
The notoriously jocular goalkeeper was less serious when asked about his predictions for this season, as he burst out laughing when declaring the Scudetto and Champions League would be won by Inter.
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Saturday 29 November, 2008
Gianluigi Buffon gives updates on his fitness, Manchester City’s £65m offer, Calciopoli and the Scudetto race.
The Juventus goalkeeper has been sidelined for six weeks after a recurring thigh strain, but resumed training in recent days.
“I tried the first little run and looked like an old man. I will be back for the new year,” he smiled on La 7 television last night.
The interview was wide-ranging and touched on a number of subjects, such as the reported £65m offer to join Manchester City.
“Nobody has offered me anything and I didn’t even take the issue into consideration,” assured the 2006 World Cup winner.
Buffon was asked what his biggest mistake was in his long career and he looked back at an incident that marred his Parma days.
“I put on a shirt to charge up the players with written on it: 'Boia chi molla’ (death to those who give up). I didn’t know it was a Fascist motto from the war, though.
“I made other mistakes, but am most ashamed of 'buying’ a diploma, because that showed a lack of respect to those who studied hard for their qualifications.”
However, Buffon did not count the Calciopoli years as among his regrets despite seeing two Scudetti stripped and the club demoted to Serie B.
“I think Luciano Moggi had some things to feel guilty about, but so did quite a few people in different clubs.
“I got the feeling they wanted to damage Juve in particular, then tried the same trick with me and Fabio Cannavaro, too.”
The notoriously jocular goalkeeper was less serious when asked about his predictions for this season, as he burst out laughing when declaring the Scudetto and Champions League would be won by Inter.
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