Branislav Ivanovic (4 Viewers)

[Jim_Boi]

Its easier said than done. Zapata is a really good defender but Udinese won't sell unless we offer them a lot of money. Which I doubt we will. That is why I am hoping that we at least get a Ivanovic on-loan. Grosso in the other hand would be an easier transfer IMO.

 

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[TERENCEE]

i would say.. bring him on! can be the next mirkovic of juve.

 

[Albertmare]

LOL , Zoran Mirkovic ?

 

[TERENCEE]

LOL , Zoran Mirkovic ?

yeah. ivanovic make me think of zoran mirkovic.. :bigscarf:

 

[Marko]

Ivanović will be much better than Mirković.

 

[TERENCEE]

Ivanović will be much better than Mirković.

mirko not tt bad thou... would love to see ivanovic and chiellini in the CB next season.

 

[Marko]

Of course not, he just had bad luck to join the team that was pretty much empty after few great seasons.

 

[Firestarter]

Loan would be sick, Ivanovic is a player that can excel but his agent/or his choice to join was a poor one, we could give him a second chance similarly to as we had done in the past with Mutu, etc... Another thing is that Juve is the perfect environment to find that potential hes got, and it works for both sides, as he would have to fight for his place in the first team, whilst still making our squad more competitive.

 

[TERENCEE]

Loan would be sick, Ivanovic is a player that can excel but his agent/or his choice to join was a poor one, we could give him a second chance similarly to as we had done in the past with Mutu, etc... Another thing is that Juve is the perfect environment to find that potential hes got, and it works for both sides, as he would have to fight for his place in the first team, whilst still making our squad more competitive.

true that.. i wonder why juve are loaning playing from other club which i dun see in the past... a club like juve are loaning out players but not loaning in players! :juve1:

 

[Cronios]

These were just some wild rumors to sell more papers,
we have no realistic chances to sign him,
we never had, he is Chelsea's proprietary now and our relations are not the best,
they will not cooperate with us, not after what happened with Mutu and our efforts to steal Lampard from them, they would never loan him to us and they ask for a fee we wouldnt pay to sign him...

 

[Firestarter]

I wouldn't say that we have Claudio Ranieri a person Chelsea's management regard highly and respect.

 

[vimo]

well in the end, it does not come down to whether or not we have a coach that had something to do with them. Even the lampard thing is not a real issue. God knows if we even tried to get him (i doubt it). And even if so, this wouldn't change the current situation. Chelsea have a pretty settled defense, and no real need for ivanovic atm. I don't know what they were thinking when they bought him, but the fact that he isn't even listed as bench-player very often (if i'm not mistaken) shows that he did not deliver what they were demanding. BUT i'm pretty sure they are paying him good cash for wearing the jersey. It's money thrown out of the window for them atm, and even if money shouldn't really bother them, if they can save a million or 2 per year just by loaning out, they surely will do so. At this very moment, i don't see any chance for ivanovic to play one single minute. And if i'm right, then everybody knows so; Ivanovic himself, chelsea, and our board.... It's not that impossible afterall.

And it's not a shame to loan in a player for once. remember that we're still not fully recovered from our relegation (financially). Why not have someone we could put in if andrade (for example) get's his billionth operation or chiellini rests because of some red cards or something. It would be the same as with stendardo. He goes away now but that doesn't hurt us much doesn't it? We could thoroughly analyse what he's worth and at the end of the loan make a concrete offer to buy him. we would get a youngster with practically no risks, since we could watch him for a whole season.

I'm all for this loan thing. It would save us the cost of a CB, and we all know that a CB is not that cheap, and that they're pretty rare on the market. Plus, if andrade recovers, mellberg fits the expectations, chiellini goes on being brilliant an legro doing his best, we'll be covered anyways.

 

[zann]

 

[Cronios]

well in the end, it does not come down to whether or not we have a coach that had something to do with them. Even the lampard thing is not a real issue. God knows if we even tried to get him (i doubt it). And even if so, this wouldn't change the current situation. Chelsea have a pretty settled defense, and no real need for ivanovic atm. I don't know what they were thinking when they bought him, but the fact that he isn't even listed as bench-player very often (if i'm not mistaken) shows that he did not deliver what they were demanding. BUT i'm pretty sure they are paying him good cash for wearing the jersey. It's money thrown out of the window for them atm, and even if money shouldn't really bother them, if they can save a million or 2 per year just by loaning out, they surely will do so. At this very moment, i don't see any chance for ivanovic to play one single minute. And if i'm right, then everybody knows so; Ivanovic himself, chelsea, and our board.... It's not that impossible afterall.

And it's not a shame to loan in a player for once. remember that we're still not fully recovered from our relegation (financially). Why not have someone we could put in if andrade (for example) get's his billionth operation or chiellini rests because of some red cards or something. It would be the same as with stendardo. He goes away now but that doesn't hurt us much doesn't it? We could thoroughly analyse what he's worth and at the end of the loan make a concrete offer to buy him. we would get a youngster with practically no risks, since we could watch him for a whole season.

I'm all for this loan thing. It would save us the cost of a CB, and we all know that a CB is not that cheap, and that they're pretty rare on the market. Plus, if andrade recovers, mellberg fits the expectations, chiellini goes on being brilliant an legro doing his best, we'll be covered anyways.

Your are looking to this situation from our perspective only, Ivanovic would def be a fine addition for us, but why would Chelsea want to help us, from all the teams in the world????
They have feeders clubs, they are interested to make deals with other clubs and they might use his loan as a bargain tool, to attract a better player.
Why would they choose to help, the club that they threatened to sue, above all the other clubs??
And on theory they know we are interest on Lampard and on theory we are one of the very few clubs able to buy him, if they solve our defensive problems, without any expenditures, this threat will grow even stronger.
It is for Chelseas's best interests not help us, CR has nothing to do with this, he was fired, we didnt bought him from them, we gain no sympathy points for having him.
Dont get me wrong, i am also all for this loan, actually i would be delighted!
I rate Ivanovic and i see our noob board are not willing to invest, to improve our weakest point, the defense. We have many average players, but no high quality. Ivanovic would be a great addition, but i dont see it happening...

 

[vimo]

Your are looking to this situation from our perspective only, Ivanovic would def be a fine addition for us, but why would Chelsea want to help us, from all the teams in the world????
They have feeders clubs, they are interested to make deals with other clubs and they might use his loan as a bargain tool, to attract a better player.
Why would they choose to help, the club that they threatened to sue, above all the other clubs??
And on theory they know we are interest on Lampard and on theory we are one of the very few clubs able to buy him, if they solve our defensive problems, without any expenditures, this threat will grow even stronger.
It is for Chelseas's best interests not help us, CR has nothing to do with this, he was fired, we didnt bought him from them, we gain no sympathy points for having him.
Dont get me wrong, i am also all for this loan, actually i would be delighted!
I rate Ivanovic and i see our noob board are not willing to invest, to improve our weakest point, the defense. We have many average players, but no high quality. Ivanovic would be a great addition, but i dont see it happening...

it's a difficult transaction without any doubt, but saying that chelsea have NO interests in doing so is wrong. They currently have a (too) young defender in among their lines, whom they cannot use. He's not experienced enough to make it even in the sub-list (i think he only was a few times listed as a sub, but never even put on field). On the other hand, he get's a good salary (i suppose) for, in the end, just practicing. It's all in their interest to loan him out. (think of it as our situation with criscito)
Now if they would 'want' to really strenghten us might be the only problem here, but to be honest, i don't think chelsea rate us a serious competitor for the champions league. So even IF they would strengthen us that much (which they don't, remember - he's not even a bench player at chelsea so he can't be that of a phenomenon) i think they do not even considerate any threat for themselves.
You might be true about the 'use him to get other players thing' but if you think about it, i think they won't sell him completely and for those types of players chelsea are after (Ronaldinho, etc...), a loan agreement seems out of question to me (i don't think barca will bother whether or not he might be worth it)
Again, i see similarities to the stendardo-deal and i must say that i was pleased with what i saw from stendardo, yet i'm not crying if he goes. Stendardo didn't do us any bad at least, and he cost us nearly nothing.
So if we can't get a 1st choice defender, i'd rather have a 4th or 5th choice player for free.

 

[Orgut]

Our board shouldn`t take any risks and should buy someone like Grandma Zapta

 

[Amaurisimo]

Loan's are always good especially for us at the moment so we could invest money somewhere else and Ivanovic is good but not that good to be in starting 11 so why bother...can we get LB supper duper and move on?


re CR, he is touch with chelsea a lot and has been many times in dressing room when Jose was in charge so i dont see problem against...
give us Bridge on loan!?

 

[francesco]

Loan's are always good especially for us at the moment so we could invest money somewhere else and Ivanovic is good but not that good to be in starting 11 so why bother...can we get LB supper duper and move on?


re CR, he is touch with chelsea a lot and has been many times in dressing room when Jose was in charge so i dont see problem against...
give us Bridge on loan!?

you dont post much, but when you do its always BS! Ivanovic not good enough? Bridge on loan? You on drugs mate

 

[Jim_Boi]

Juve Prepare Ivanovic Move
According toe the Corriere dello Sport, Juventus are considering making a loan move for Chelsea outcast Branislav Ivanovic.

This time last year the Serbian defender was the talk of the continent following some outstanding displays in the Under-21 European Championships in Holland.

The 24-year-old had a whole host of Europe’s top clubs after him, including Juventus, Inter, Milan, and Manchester United, but it was Chelsea who eventually won the race to sign him.

The Blues paid Lokomotiv Moscow €13m for the defender, who joined in January of this year. However, since arriving in West London, Ivanovic has become something of an outcast, and indeed he has mysteriously still yet to make his first team debut, only playing for the reserves.

While some say this was just to protect him physically after he joined at the end of the Russian season, with the likes of John Terry, Riccardo Carvalho, and Alex ahead of him in the pecking order, it will be difficult for him to find space in this coming season.

The Corriere says that Juventus are preparing a loan offer to Chelsea so that Ivanovic can spend the 2008/09 season in Turin.

The Bianconeri have already signed two central defenders this pre-season in the form of Aston Villa’s Olof Mellberg, and Livorno’s Dario Knezevic.

Anthony Sormani, GOAL.COM

 

[Ahmed]

win-win situation for every1...come on SecCo.!