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Aug 2, 2005
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The salary maneuver investigation is closing soon. The penalties range from fines to points deduction to relegation, but only if it were to be shown that without the maneuvers in question the company would not have been able to register the team in the championship (@SkySport)
Imagine they give the verdict and the rationale behind it at the same time
 

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Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
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Juventus out of CL costs UEFA a lot of viewers from all over the world. Italian league interest would drop massively too. A weak Juve is also a weak national team. These dumb fucks don't realise it but a corrupt mind will only look for new ways to make money until the shit hits the fan. Give us the fine, investigate the others, but also protect the cash cow.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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The existence of a super league where you don’t need to earn your place would basically kill the domestic ones. We’ve discussed this before when it was first announced. It’s not gonna happen.
But its not a closed shop not at least after its latest revision

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Juventus out of CL costs UEFA a lot of viewers from all over the world. Italian league interest would drop massively too. A weak Juve is also a weak national team. These dumb fucks don't realise it but a corrupt mind will only look for new ways to make money until the shit hits the fan. Give us the fine, investigate the others, but also protect the cash cow.
No we should fucking go after the figc and bankrupt the fucks like we should have done post calciopoli

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And how do the teams enter and leave the SL? How are they chosen?
Based firstly on those who want to join then after that based on merit I guess.
 

Niku

Senior Member
Jan 14, 2014
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Incoming another kick in the face, the salaries of 4 months given out of the accounts and to players outside already of the club.
Been in the stock market was a mistake and doing abusing the plusvalenza operations (40 of 60 irregularities involves us) knowing how the environment is sigh.
 
Apr 12, 2004
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Juventus out of CL costs UEFA a lot of viewers from all over the world. Italian league interest would drop massively too. A weak Juve is also a weak national team. These dumb fucks don't realise it but a corrupt mind will only look for new ways to make money until the shit hits the fan. Give us the fine, investigate the others, but also protect the cash cow.
A weak Juve is a weak NT?

How many of your starting 11 are even eligible for the Italian NT?

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Aug 2, 2005
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doesn’t this happen quite frequently in legal cases that the detailed justification is released at a later date?
Maybe,, but for any verdict.. you won't see this amount of confusion
- why only Juve
- what are the rules violated exactly
Some say the intentional inflation of asset values allowing undeserved advantage.
Some say.. no, it is the magnitude of it.
Some say it is "disloyalty"
- and no fucking one can explain why -15.. not -3.. not -9 and not -30.. why not fines?
- if it was Judge B, not A.. would the decision be different? Looks yes....



Finally.. in any legal case.. the guilt is declared before the sentence and the sentence itself is not something up to the judge.. yes there is a range and different judges could rule different sentences.. but it is one of the punishments already known... a fine.. 1 year in prison.. will be 10 if the crime was the 3rd etc..
 

juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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ALL the Juventus players and staff who agreed to the salary manoeuvre, including Sarri, Dybala, Ronaldo, Kulusevski, De Ligt, etc...
Can be suspended from football for a month minimum if they're proven guilty in the salary manoeuvre case.
The only exception might be De ligt and De sciglio who showed the prosecutor chats between Chiellini and the team.
(Tuttojuve).
 

Niku

Senior Member
Jan 14, 2014
1,223
Sure there are others involved, its a "trick" others use as well but I guess that being in the stock market leaves us with tie hands to operate as other clubs.
The sanctions I am sure other clubs will receive as well in the future but not as serious as us.
Maybe we fuck up so bad ,the evidence is massive and thats why its taking time, I heard that of the plusvalenza cases that were irregulars we are involved in 40 of 60, thats too much of the abuse of the operation if you ask me. Yet there is the subjective value of a player, how you can calculate it besides the systems clubs use internally, but the management quitting all at once makes me fear for the other issues now coming of salaries and things out of the account books.
 

Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
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So sport trials have no relevance to whether we are listed company.
they don't care cause FIGC can't make people go to jail or pay fines but at worst ban them to partecipate into FIGC stuff like signing contracts, getting into stadiums and giving fines to clubs.
While real trials can lead you to jail and personal fines.
Andrea Agnelli and the rest will have to face trials (if they police/prosecutor says so and so far isn't sure yet) but they can already punish Juventus for those stuff if they want.
Because in sports trials you're guilty until proven innocence not the other way
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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ALL the Juventus players and staff who agreed to the salary manoeuvre, including Sarri, Dybala, Ronaldo, Kulusevski, De Ligt, etc...
Can be suspended from football for a month minimum if they're proven guilty in the salary manoeuvre case.
The only exception might be De ligt and De sciglio who showed the prosecutor chats between Chiellini and the team.
(Tuttojuve).
:touched:
 

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