Benazir Bhutto Assasinated (2 Viewers)
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i'm not trying to pick a fight with you tahir but don't you think she was better than musharaff?? and her accomplishments as a woman in an islamic nation were astounding as well.
we all know that no politician is a saint, and none of them are clean but in this situation i dont anyone is promoting her to sainthood. we're just mourning in our own ways.
me >> :melayyanandmessi:
we all know that no politician is a saint, and none of them are clean but in this situation i dont anyone is promoting her to sainthood. we're just mourning in our own ways.
me >> :melayyanandmessi:
i'm not trying to pick a fight with you tahir but don't you think she was better than musharaff?? and her accomplishments as a woman in an islamic nation were astounding as well.
we all know that no politician is a saint, and none of them are clean but in this situation i dont anyone is promoting her to sainthood. we're just mourning in our own ways.
me >> :melayyanandmessi:
we all know that no politician is a saint, and none of them are clean but in this situation i dont anyone is promoting her to sainthood. we're just mourning in our own ways.
me >> :melayyanandmessi:
Benazir being the leader of an Islamic nation isn't astounding because there's nothing in Islam that would prevent her from being one. However, being a leader of a nation as a woman is an achievement, but I wasn't referring to her personal achievements. I was referring to her service to the people.
...they crippled the economy and turned Karachi into a civil war zone...but still, another senseless act of violence...RIP Benazir
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Just to make a few things clear :
-It is not clear as yet,and judging from Pakistan's history,it will never be clear who assisinated her.This country has a history of major political assasinations that remain a mystery to this day.
-Benazir was not a saint.No politician is a saint.But she had massive support in the masses,which in obviously down to the legacy of her father.Ever since coming from exile in October,Benazir had the largest audiences at her rallies,which mind you,she was doing against the Government's advice because of the security issues.She nearly escaped an assisination attempt the day she landed.Over 130 people were killed in that bomb blast.
-I would not blame Musharraf for this,but then again,you cannot claim that he didnt have anything at all to do with it.The blame eventually will come to Al Qaeda and the extremists.The possibility of Musharraf having a hand in this is small because she was the one leader that he supposedly had a backdoor understanding with.
-The elections are supposed to take place on 8th January 2008.For the ones who do not know,Musharraf is the President of Pakistan,and the elections were for the Prime Minister of Pakistan.Therefore,you can further minimize the possiblity of Musharraf being involved in the assasination because to him,the ideal partnership would have been with Benazir as his Prime Minister.Which is,obviously,what George W.Bush wanted too.Again,Benazir would not have replaced Musharraf as the leader of the state as she was participating for the Prime Minister's position,so you can virtually cross out the possiblity of him having a hand in this.He is not on good terms with the other parties.Benazir was the only he had somewhat of an understanding with.The word in Pakistan is that Benazir was only criticizing Musharraf to gain votes and to avoid public heat(Musharraf is under fire in Pakistan these days),whereas in reality she would support him once she got elected.Dirty tactics,yes,but thats Politics.
-The major reason behind Benazir's assination was her liberal approach.She has publicly stated on numerous occasions that she would fight against Islamic Extremism,which would not have gone down well with the militants.Plus,those very Militants consider a woman taking part in Politics unislamic,and the fact that Benazir is foreign educated and she had spent a large part of her life mingling with people from the west only angered the extremists more.
-Personally,im a huge supporter of Musharraf.But i wont get into wether he's good or bad.Benazir had charges of corruption against her,but then again,so does every politician.At the end of the day,it comes down to how deep you've sinked into the corruption pool.Her supporters,as you would expect,state that the charges against her were fabricated on political grounds more than anything else.Corrupt or not,that i do not know,but the fact is that the Bhutto family gave Pakistan its biggest political party ever in the form of PPP(Pakistan People's Party).Charges of corruption withstanding,no party in Pakistan(which is a fact btw) has a larger public following them.Im not saying this to praise the Bhutto family,im merely stating this to show the magnitude of what has happened.With Benazir's assasination,the most influential family generation in Pakistan's history is now DEAD.Her father was hanged,her mother is barely alive,her 2 brothers was assasinated,and now she's suffered a similar fate.Whats left is her younger sister,and she's never taken up politics.Wether her kids take up politics remains to be seen.
-This is a sad day for no matter how you look at it.Whats sadder is that i see people on television,twats like Nawaz Sharif slam Musharraf for this.Like,fuck that,Benazir's dead,cant you fucking let go of Musharraf and discuss Benazir alone for a moment?
-Security issues in Pakistan have reached new levels now.Yesterday night,some hours after the assasination,the roads were empty,the shops were closed etc.For a country that is at the heart of suicide attacks and Islamic Extremim,this is horrible HORRIBLE news.The assasination has given Pakistan's stability one of the biggest jolt ever.Supporters of Bhutto have already started reacting violently...Burning Cars,Gun Battles with the law enforcing agencies etc.If you thought the situation in Pakistan was dangerous before,then it just got worse.
May Benazir Bhutto R.I.P.And may this country be SAVED.
-It is not clear as yet,and judging from Pakistan's history,it will never be clear who assisinated her.This country has a history of major political assasinations that remain a mystery to this day.
-Benazir was not a saint.No politician is a saint.But she had massive support in the masses,which in obviously down to the legacy of her father.Ever since coming from exile in October,Benazir had the largest audiences at her rallies,which mind you,she was doing against the Government's advice because of the security issues.She nearly escaped an assisination attempt the day she landed.Over 130 people were killed in that bomb blast.
-I would not blame Musharraf for this,but then again,you cannot claim that he didnt have anything at all to do with it.The blame eventually will come to Al Qaeda and the extremists.The possibility of Musharraf having a hand in this is small because she was the one leader that he supposedly had a backdoor understanding with.
-The elections are supposed to take place on 8th January 2008.For the ones who do not know,Musharraf is the President of Pakistan,and the elections were for the Prime Minister of Pakistan.Therefore,you can further minimize the possiblity of Musharraf being involved in the assasination because to him,the ideal partnership would have been with Benazir as his Prime Minister.Which is,obviously,what George W.Bush wanted too.Again,Benazir would not have replaced Musharraf as the leader of the state as she was participating for the Prime Minister's position,so you can virtually cross out the possiblity of him having a hand in this.He is not on good terms with the other parties.Benazir was the only he had somewhat of an understanding with.The word in Pakistan is that Benazir was only criticizing Musharraf to gain votes and to avoid public heat(Musharraf is under fire in Pakistan these days),whereas in reality she would support him once she got elected.Dirty tactics,yes,but thats Politics.
-The major reason behind Benazir's assination was her liberal approach.She has publicly stated on numerous occasions that she would fight against Islamic Extremism,which would not have gone down well with the militants.Plus,those very Militants consider a woman taking part in Politics unislamic,and the fact that Benazir is foreign educated and she had spent a large part of her life mingling with people from the west only angered the extremists more.
-Personally,im a huge supporter of Musharraf.But i wont get into wether he's good or bad.Benazir had charges of corruption against her,but then again,so does every politician.At the end of the day,it comes down to how deep you've sinked into the corruption pool.Her supporters,as you would expect,state that the charges against her were fabricated on political grounds more than anything else.Corrupt or not,that i do not know,but the fact is that the Bhutto family gave Pakistan its biggest political party ever in the form of PPP(Pakistan People's Party).Charges of corruption withstanding,no party in Pakistan(which is a fact btw) has a larger public following them.Im not saying this to praise the Bhutto family,im merely stating this to show the magnitude of what has happened.With Benazir's assasination,the most influential family generation in Pakistan's history is now DEAD.Her father was hanged,her mother is barely alive,her 2 brothers was assasinated,and now she's suffered a similar fate.Whats left is her younger sister,and she's never taken up politics.Wether her kids take up politics remains to be seen.
-This is a sad day for no matter how you look at it.Whats sadder is that i see people on television,twats like Nawaz Sharif slam Musharraf for this.Like,fuck that,Benazir's dead,cant you fucking let go of Musharraf and discuss Benazir alone for a moment?
-Security issues in Pakistan have reached new levels now.Yesterday night,some hours after the assasination,the roads were empty,the shops were closed etc.For a country that is at the heart of suicide attacks and Islamic Extremim,this is horrible HORRIBLE news.The assasination has given Pakistan's stability one of the biggest jolt ever.Supporters of Bhutto have already started reacting violently...Burning Cars,Gun Battles with the law enforcing agencies etc.If you thought the situation in Pakistan was dangerous before,then it just got worse.
May Benazir Bhutto R.I.P.And may this country be SAVED.
I dont dont know if its right but i was reading something about bhutto,
it said:
in cold war when afghanistan was under control of USSR some afghan groups tried to reach independence from USSR.sinc US was against USSR they helped these groups with money,weapons and also they improve they war tactics and taught them other thing about war.
on of the main groups was alghaede.which finally won the war against USSR.
the conection between afghanistan and US was pakistan.
and thats when bhutto had the power in pakistan.
and US was helpin Alghaede via pakistan and bhutto.
is that right ?!
the article continued about how after independece taliban and alghaede got the power in afghanistan and tried to continue their jihad !!(i shouldnt call that jihad anyway !! maybe i call it a plan of some sick people !) then turn against the US and their people as the west devils !( USSR was the east one !)
its says as bhutto was one of the US player in asia,maybe it was alghaede who killed her.
i dont realy know ! its just an theory ! dont blame me if its bullshit
it said:
in cold war when afghanistan was under control of USSR some afghan groups tried to reach independence from USSR.sinc US was against USSR they helped these groups with money,weapons and also they improve they war tactics and taught them other thing about war.
on of the main groups was alghaede.which finally won the war against USSR.
the conection between afghanistan and US was pakistan.
and thats when bhutto had the power in pakistan.
and US was helpin Alghaede via pakistan and bhutto.
is that right ?!
the article continued about how after independece taliban and alghaede got the power in afghanistan and tried to continue their jihad !!(i shouldnt call that jihad anyway !! maybe i call it a plan of some sick people !) then turn against the US and their people as the west devils !( USSR was the east one !)
its says as bhutto was one of the US player in asia,maybe it was alghaede who killed her.
i dont realy know ! its just an theory ! dont blame me if its bullshit
This makes clearer for me! Fuck those Extremists! It won't be an easy task of Pakistani people to get rid of them.
A question. Was she Sunni or Shi3a (I don't know how is that spelt in English), and same question for Musharraf! and what's the percentage of Shia against Sunni's? and is it the major conflict of Pakistani people?
A question. Was she Sunni or Shi3a (I don't know how is that spelt in English), and same question for Musharraf! and what's the percentage of Shia against Sunni's? and is it the major conflict of Pakistani people?
no offense but thats really not saying much
then how come more women in islamic nations are not major active players in the political game and as public as she was? c'mon tahir, don't tell me that the way islamic countries are run that women are still forbidden or kept from delving into politics amongst other things.
i think accomplishing what she did as a woman in the environment she was in was more than a personal achievement. it was a benchmark for women around the world rather.
then how come more women in islamic nations are not major active players in the political game and as public as she was? c'mon tahir, don't tell me that the way islamic countries are run that women are still forbidden or kept from delving into politics amongst other things.
i think accomplishing what she did as a woman in the environment she was in was more than a personal achievement. it was a benchmark for women around the world rather.
most of muslims are sunni,i think its 85% sunni and 15% shi'a
shi'a are mostly in iran,iraq and azarbaijan.
and maybe this help more :
map of islam
shi'a are mostly in iran,iraq and azarbaijan.
and maybe this help more :
map of islam
can't say i know much about pakistans politics and history, at leats not enough to give an evaluation of what this means. however this will be portrayed in western media(specifically america) in a terrible light, whether it was al-queda or infact Musharraf it will be made out to look like terrorists and despots run amock in "the muslim world" thus justifying america,britain,etc attempting to gain more infuence in the region
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