Baltimore Riots/Freddie Gray (1 Viewer)

[Ocelot]

The riots are certainly senseless, destructive and moronic.

But they don't appear out of nowhere. These areas and the population segments living in them have been neglected for decades, the people growing in them are surrounded by poverty, a broken education system, gang violence, drug culture, etc., etc. So while there's no need for sympathy for the rioters, the need to improve their situation, or at least the situation of the next generation as there's not much left to save with this one, is very real. Not even due to some kind of altruism, but simply because conditions will continue to get much worse otherwise, and riots such as this one (not to talk about the negative everyday consequences of such communities & inequality) serve no one.

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So your analysis of the situation and why there is little investment in these areas starts from 29-04-2015? That is the root of my sarcasm. I'm no expert in American social history nor will I pretend to be, so I can only speak from a general point of view that you can not show me societies that are so marginalised as ghettoes/projects are in the states and point the finger solely at the people living in them - despite the fact that their negative contribution to the situation is the most visible one on a day to day basis.

Now there are several things you could undertake to improve the situation, depending on your political orientation. The first place you guys could start is to reevaluate the discourse when talking about people on benefits, it's almost exclusively negative which contributes to the behavior of certain groups within this. Social empowerment is nonexisting in the states. The minimum wage is one that is barely acceptable for anyone who contemplates to break out of the negative social heritage in the American projects, of course partaking in crime from an early age seems more appealing than working the worst possible jobs for a pay that doesn't give any incitament when you see how easily money can be made by breaking the law.

Your argument is pretty much "look at them, they're acting like animals - of course people won't invest in the areas" whereas the situation is much more complex and (if we discount the libertarian concept of encouraged altruism) needs to be tackled from the government through various programmes that will help break the negative spiral.

 

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[Enron]

The riots are certainly senseless, destructive and moronic.

But they don't appear out of nowhere. These areas and the population segments living in them have been neglected for decades, the people growing in them are surrounded by poverty, a broken education system, gang violence, drug culture, etc., etc. So while there's no need for sympathy for the rioters, the need to improve their situation, or at least the situation of the next generation as there's not much left to save with this one, is very real. Not even due to some kind of altruism, but simply because conditions will continue to get much worse otherwise, and riots such as this one (not to talk about the negative everyday consequences of such communities & inequality) serve no one.

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That is the big problem these days. Everyone views these incidents from their own point of view. The media sensationalizes it. Then you get simple mother fuckers thinking the riots started yesterday. Telling people to "get jobs and stop acting like animals". Its like, "thanks for not being part of the solution".

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Dude, learn a second language.

Danish would be a third.

 

[swag]

Please, Greg. That does not count as a metro, just an escape route to suburbia.

It does not count, and yet Mondawmin and Penn North got metro stops.

 

[Seven]

Oooh ladida, Mr Two Languages.

 

[swag]

That still doesn't stop people from the idiotic practice of tattooing themselves in languages they don't understand.

 

[Hængebøffer]

That still doesn't stop people from the idiotic practice of tattooing themselves in languages they don't understand.

Like fine alla fine?

 

[Martin]

Oooh ladida, Mr Two Languages.

credit where due!

 

[swag]

Like fine alla fine?

Potentially. Depends on whether you're Italien or not.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Potentially. Depends on whether you're Italien or not.

Visit the tattoo thread.

 

[Enron]

Oooh ladida, Mr Two Languages.

How many is acceptable?

 

[Nzoric]

How many is acceptable?

Four

The best thing about the last balkan civil war is that my resume now counts 7 languages.

 

[Martin]

Four

The best thing about the last balkan civil war is that my resume now counts 7 languages.

what were the other contenders?

 

[Nzoric]

what were the other contenders?

Democracy, of course.

 

[Martin]

Democracy, of course.

of course

 

[Seven]

How many is acceptable?

I guess around four, if you want to pretend to be an intellectual in Europe. Two is far better than most native English speakers though, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

The riots are certainly senseless, destructive and moronic.

But they don't appear out of nowhere. These areas and the population segments living in them have been neglected for decades, the people growing in them are surrounded by poverty, a broken education system, gang violence, drug culture, etc., etc. So while there's no need for sympathy for the rioters, the need to improve their situation, or at least the situation of the next generation as there's not much left to save with this one, is very real. Not even due to some kind of altruism, but simply because conditions will continue to get much worse otherwise, and riots such as this one (not to talk about the negative everyday consequences of such communities & inequality) serve no one.

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The problem is these communities constantly vote in the same politicians or party and things on,y get worse. They've been indoctrinated by the left into believing only they can fix their woes, while in the meantime nothing is done for them. Just look at Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore etc all failed leftist policies and yet generations continue to go that route

 

[Enron]

I guess around four, if you want to pretend to be an intellectual in Europe. Two is far better than most native English speakers though, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

I have been thinking about making this working abroad thing a career, so I may get there. In time.

 

[Ocelot]

The problem is these communities constantly vote in the same politicians or party and things on,y get worse. They've been indoctrinated by the left into believing only they can fix their woes, while in the meantime nothing is done for them. Just look at Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore etc all failed leftist policies and yet generations continue to go that route

The US doesn't really have any party that deserves to be called left.

 

[Enron]

The problem is these communities constantly vote in the same politicians or party and things on,y get worse. They've been indoctrinated by the left into believing only they can fix their woes, while in the meantime nothing is done for them. Just look at Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore etc all failed leftist policies and yet generations continue to go that route

Definitely need to raise federal funding for community colleges and vocational training centers like Ronald did.

 

[Martin]

I guess around four, if you want to pretend to be an intellectual in Europe. Two is far better than most native English speakers though, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

sorry, that's my job