Baltimore Riots/Freddie Gray (3 Viewers)

[Seven]

These black people trying to make on point but can't speak English.

You mean a point?

 

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[Hust]

You mean a point?

On the channel I was watching, the people they were interviewing were indeed black.

And if you quoted the whole post you would have known I was watching the news where black (not white) teens were being interviewed and sounding like morons. Is that racist? Had they had been white or latino I would have said the same thing.

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Exhibit A.

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But a black guy can say it and isn't racist.

 

[Nzoric]

Liberal policies aren't working in far too many urban communities here. Keyword: here

How is that a cop out?

Its a cop out because you would like the benefits of the scandinavian model but absolutely refuse to accept what is necessary for that to happen. Of course it cant function in the states, your political system is rotten through and through. (Even more so than the european ones, but thats not to say that everything is dandy over here)

 

[Hust]

Its a cop out because you would like the benefits of the scandinavian model but absolutely refuse to accept what is necessary for that to happen. Of course it cant function in the states, your political system is rotten through and through. (Even more so than the european ones, but thats not to say that everything is dandy over here)

I will be the first to agree with you our politicians are shitty, especially the ones in office now on both sides. You gotta understand that our country since its foundation is completely different than Europe. You guys have a history a hell of a lot older than we do. We tried something different, it worked out quite well and now we are seeing areas that aren't and no one wants to find a way to fix it.

 

[Nzoric]

And for a good measure i'll point a finger at Fresh and the ideas he is propagating. Its hard to make any real change when the higher standing colored members of society are talking exclusively from their point of view. Many of them do more harm than good.

I mean, FFS Fresh was born in Canada and half his posts are pan african. What the flying fuck.

 

[Hust]

And I never mentioned anything about wanting the benefits of a Scandinavian model. Are you referring to liberals here or me specifically?

 

[Nzoric]

I will be the first to agree with you our politicians are shitty, especially the ones in office now on both sides. You gotta understand that our country since its foundation is completely different than Europe. You guys have a history a hell of a lot older than we do. We tried something different, it worked out quite well and now we are seeing areas that aren't and no one wants to find a way to fix it.

Your politicians wont improve until its made less financially appealing to become a politician. Entaglement of power and money is disgusing and present everywhere, but your way of doing it is just bizarre.

 

[Hust]

Your politicians wont improve until its made less financially appealing to become a politician. Entaglement of power and money is disgusing and present everywhere, but your way of doing it is just bizarre.

I can't tell if you are accusing me directly or "our" way of doing it as in the American way.

We need term limits on politicians for a start. There is no transparency on either side anymore even if they claim there is. And when a skelleton surfaces everyone points and says see?, but does nothing to punish or make an example of it.

 

[swag]

Why the sarcasm? All you see in these pockets are fast food joints and 7-11's. No money will filter in to start rebuilding except government checks. You go to these communities and see bars on the windows everywhere why would any sane business owner even risk it?

Uhhh, Under Armor, for example?

Baltimore needs a hipster invasion, no joke.

Baltimore was hipster before hipster even existed. There's some serious quirkiness and funk there like I've never experienced in any other American city. The difference being that Baltimorons don't know what a hipster is.

I wonder how that identity crisis started, and I also wonder why a positive identity hasn't been put in place for a people that have been on the land for 400 plus years.

The very fact that African American's are told that they are have been "freed" by some bogus politicians with the abolition shows that they have been taught that they can't do shit on their own.....This shit goes REEAAAL deep...

I hear what you're saying. But at the same time you're also being a bit disingenuous about what some African Americans have achieved and what identity has been presented forward.

In fact, African Americans dominate American pop culture and have for decades ... from Michael Jordan to Oprah to Michael Jackson to Jay-Z and Beyonce to every latest rapper of the month and their baby mommas in the cultural news.

Of course, American culture is a complete power law economy with a million times more losers than winners, so trying to emulate that isn't enough for anybody regardless of their background. But the truth is that even white-friendly white collar professions are becoming more power law economies, and these forces are really affecting all middle class jobs.

 

[Nzoric]

Hustini, my darling, youre irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, im not accusing you. Your opinions are an expression for something that I am conviced is not the way out for any society, let alone the American.

Would you say that the US is a democracy?

 

[Hust]

Uhhh, Under Armor, for example?

The guy started Under Armour in DC then later moved to Tide Point right down the street from Inner Harbor. Hardly in a rough part of town that's my point. Plus John Hopkins is amazing.

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Would you say that the US is a democracy?

lol getting told who will be nominated for each party then getting limited to those two as the only options is hardly a democracy.

Essentially being told I either get to vote for a Bush or a Clinton isn't. On paper we are, but we all know its a little more complicated than that.

 

[swag]

The guy started Under Armour in DC then later moved to Tide Point right down the street from Inner Harbor. Hardly in a rough part of town that's my point. Plus John Hopkins is amazing.

But even opening jobs in Tide Point ... people living in Upton or on North Ave can easily hop on a short metro ride to work. It starts there. Until you have access to more jobs that can help pay for more local amenities, your local amenities are only going to be check cashing, liquor stores, and wigs.

 

[Nzoric]

That part could be swallowed as democratic if there were democratic mechanisms in place within the parties where candidates could steer the party in a certain direction. The real issue is that if you want to be a top politician in the states you have to be an incredibly succesfull businessman/woman. On the way up you end up owing favors to everyone who helped ypu economically, favors that they spend their elected term paying off. Its politics for the sake of those well off and interested in getting more. 17.5% income tax (correct me if im wrong) while the middle class is having a fit when there is talk of bumping the minimum wage to something tolerable. It's quite entertaining to follow

 

[Hust]

But even opening jobs in Tide Point ... people living in Upton or on North Ave can easily hop on a short metro ride to work. It starts there. Until you have access to more jobs that can help pay for more local amenities, your local amenities are only going to be check cashing, liquor stores, and wigs.

And I agree. Obviously better jobs and more of them would be massively uplifting for many. But how do you get them there and how do you convince more under armours?

 

[Hængebøffer]

Us Scandinavians could learn from the civil society in The States and they could learn from our social policies.

 

[Hust]

Here is the mom that was caught beating the hell out of her kid lol

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/...-goes-viral-after-she-disciplines-rioter-son/


Need more parents like that.

 

[lgorTudor]

Here is the mom that was caught beating the hell out of her kid lol

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/...-goes-viral-after-she-disciplines-rioter-son/


Need more parents like that.

Just get the "Everybody Hates Chris" Mom to Baltimore and there won't be riots by the next day

 

[swag]

And I agree. Obviously better jobs and more of them would be massively uplifting for many. But how do you get them there and how do you convince more under armours?

This is that counter-intuitive thing, but I think some of it comes down to local governments using more tax incentives on potential employers than direct hand-outs to residents.

 

[Hængebøffer]

But even opening jobs in Tide Point ... people living in Upton or on North Ave can easily hop on a short metro ride to work. It starts there. Until you have access to more jobs that can help pay for more local amenities, your local amenities are only going to be check cashing, liquor stores, and wigs.

Agree. Research (American, as I recall) shows that it doesn't help giving socially deprived families more cash benefit (don't know if it's the right term).

 

[Enron]

Baltimore needs a hipster invasion, no joke.

Already had one, but it fucked up for a number of reasons.

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On the channel I was watching, the people they were interviewing were indeed black.

And if you quoted the whole post you would have known I was watching the news where black (not white) teens were being interviewed and sounding like morons. Is that racist? Had they had been white or latino I would have said the same thing.

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Exhibit A.

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But a black guy can say it and isn't racist.

He´s point out that your were criticizing the english of black youths, yet you wrote "on point" instead of a point.

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But even opening jobs in Tide Point ... people living in Upton or on North Ave can easily hop on a short metro ride to work. It starts there. Until you have access to more jobs that can help pay for more local amenities, your local amenities are only going to be check cashing, liquor stores, and wigs.

Please, Greg. That does not count as a metro, just an escape route to suburbia.

Which is another problem with Baltimore. It is built to be exclusive. The light rail and the metro do not really serve most of the city. And the nicer neighborhoods are meant to keep the bad elements out. Which is a big reason gentrification failed in Baltimore. Instead of economic growth trickling into other neighborhoods, it is pretty much limited to the neighborhoods surrounding Inner Harbor and Downtown. That is a big reason why black people in black neighborhoods dont like white people, and white people in white neighborhoods dont like black people.