The real sad thing is that the WC will probably be extended to include more teams, so if Italy had qualified it would be a million times harder to fail to qualify for another 60+ years 
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That is such a meaningless record though. It's sad for Buffon, but surely most Italians fans would rather win a World Cup every once in a while than just be there every time.
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We surely dont know who is behind him... or if there is someone pulling the strings. What we do know.. is that he selected a mediocre coach for the NT, most likely based on friendship and connections.
That should have never happened.
But he had chances to correct the wrongdoing and sacking ventura. Never happened.
Because of this simple reasons, he must face the consequences of what they did and resign.
If the system behind him is also corrupt..then thats another matter. But Tavecchio, as the ma in charge and with power to decide (in theory), should go.
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Unreal isnt it?.
Maybe this needed to happen for the crop of mandragora, orsolini etc to develop
That should have never happened.
But he had chances to correct the wrongdoing and sacking ventura. Never happened.
Because of this simple reasons, he must face the consequences of what they did and resign.
If the system behind him is also corrupt..then thats another matter. But Tavecchio, as the ma in charge and with power to decide (in theory), should go.
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Unreal isnt it?.
Maybe this needed to happen for the crop of mandragora, orsolini etc to develop
The 'power' behind him isn't in a single entity, but an electoral process. It is really complicated due to the 'icebergs' of competing interests, but not as much as to suggest he kept Ventura 'cause they were buddies'. In reality Ventura flopped in the two games against Sweden, as Italy were never going to beat Spain. Then again the whole debacle with Ventura is on the sporting aspect of his job and if we are honest here this must play a lesser weight in a judgement on Tavecchio's real work.
Again if we are talking about the strategic aspect and running Italian football in general - there must be concrete evidence of what this FIGC fecked and MORE importantly how it will be fixed. Otherwise, it's another change for the sake of changing. Quite frankly Italians need to have a much deeper debate about how to proceed in the future and not just about bringing temporary refreshments with Carletto, etc.
EU society as a whole and Italy as a country have so many issues to overcome in the following decades that it was actually abnormal to have football stay in the levels of the good old days. What is even harder to swallow for the current crop of 'visionaries' and 'great leaders' is that money cannot solve those problems, otherwise England will be winning its 10th WC.
Again if we are talking about the strategic aspect and running Italian football in general - there must be concrete evidence of what this FIGC fecked and MORE importantly how it will be fixed. Otherwise, it's another change for the sake of changing. Quite frankly Italians need to have a much deeper debate about how to proceed in the future and not just about bringing temporary refreshments with Carletto, etc.
EU society as a whole and Italy as a country have so many issues to overcome in the following decades that it was actually abnormal to have football stay in the levels of the good old days. What is even harder to swallow for the current crop of 'visionaries' and 'great leaders' is that money cannot solve those problems, otherwise England will be winning its 10th WC.
I can't believe Ventura and Tavecchio are still in power. Just boggles the mind.
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I want Albertini or Maldini as new FICG president, Ancelotti or Capello as NT coach. I want this to happen before the end of the year. I feel this would be the only way to save calcio. The fact we are in this down spiral has and will continue to have negative consequences through out the sport, including Serie A and in turn Juve as well.
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I honestly can't believe there isn't a mob at the FIGC headquarters with pitch forks and torches.
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I want Albertini or Maldini as new FICG president, Ancelotti or Capello as NT coach. I want this to happen before the end of the year. I feel this would be the only way to save calcio. The fact we are in this down spiral has and will continue to have negative consequences through out the sport, including Serie A and in turn Juve as well.
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Is Tavecchio really going to survive this??? 
I honestly can't believe there isn't a mob at the FIGC headquarters with pitch forks and torches.
My problem with our "new" generation is that by the time the next world cup comes around, all the current "new generation" players will already be in their late 20s and have 0 world cup experience...Caldara, Rugani, Berna, Belotti, Florenzi, Conti, Romagoli etc will all be 28/29 or older with only a Euros (hopefully) under their belt....that to me is a big, big concern, 2022 will be the first and last world cup for many of them, we're stuck in an odd phase
I don't know. Ventura made the players look really bad, but truth be told I see them just below Spain, France, Germany and Belgium in Europe. Surely England, the Netherlands or Portugal aren't much better at all. And Portugal even won the Euros in 2016.
Given that pretty much everyone qualifies for the Euros these days it shouldn't be that difficult of a task. And it's right after the biggest disaster in Italian football, so you're bound to look good.
Given that pretty much everyone qualifies for the Euros these days it shouldn't be that difficult of a task. And it's right after the biggest disaster in Italian football, so you're bound to look good.
There's huge gloom and doom over the quality of the players, but honestly I think Italy actually had the cogs to win the whole damn thing: a balance of young and old, lots of players with good understanding of each other after playing together for a long time and relatively good depth in each position. With Conte's grinta this team would've been a serious contender for the trophy since the quality is now significantly better than 2 years ago. Player to player clearly inferior to France, Spain and Germany, but that doesn't always matter as we saw with Sweden.
Cannavaro only great for two or three years? Do you not remember him at Parma? The likes of Nesta and Cannavaro are amongst the best ever defenders. Cheilini is very good but is not at that level. Here, coincidently, Football Italia just mentioned the same thing;
Chiellini is arguably the last of his kind. That rugged, no-nonsense Italian stalwart in the mould of Claudio Gentile, Beppe Bergomi and Pietro Vierchowod. Yet, Chiellini won’t go down as one of the all-time legendary defenders, which speaks to the general downturn in Italy’s ability to produce world-class centre backs in the last two decades. Where have all the Maldini’s, Scirea’s, Nesta’s, Baresi’s and Cannavaro’s gone?
http://www.football-italia.net/112810/italys-problems-run-deep
Chiellini is arguably the last of his kind. That rugged, no-nonsense Italian stalwart in the mould of Claudio Gentile, Beppe Bergomi and Pietro Vierchowod. Yet, Chiellini won’t go down as one of the all-time legendary defenders, which speaks to the general downturn in Italy’s ability to produce world-class centre backs in the last two decades. Where have all the Maldini’s, Scirea’s, Nesta’s, Baresi’s and Cannavaro’s gone?
http://www.football-italia.net/112810/italys-problems-run-deep
