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What is a "true Italian" ?
While I do see your point, I don't think it's that simple. Italy doesn't really have a very inclusive culture when it comes to immigrants, I'd guess most immigrants never really feel accepted as "Italian". Just look at the post quoted above yours, from my experience most Italians follow that line of thinking.
While I do see your point, I don't think it's that simple. Italy doesn't really have a very inclusive culture when it comes to immigrants, I'd guess most immigrants never really feel accepted as "Italian". Just look at the post quoted above yours, from my experience most Italians follow that line of thinking.
I'm not singling Italy out, but the topic of discussion right now is Italy, not any other country. I'm just puzzled by your stance, I mean on the one hand you don't consider immigrants like Mastour to be true Italians, on the other hand you blame him for choosing Morocco?
To be honest, "ancestry" doesn't make a lot of sense, because everyone came to Italy from somewhere else. But hey, that's how most countries in the world view immigrants, right? Most countries, except developed western countries of course, which is why I don't really consider Italians to be a very advanced society in comparison to Scandinavian countries, Benelux countries, UK, Germany and a few others in Europe. In the Middle East, people say Italians are the "Arabs of Europe"
To be honest, "ancestry" doesn't make a lot of sense, because everyone came to Italy from somewhere else. But hey, that's how most countries in the world view immigrants, right? Most countries, except developed western countries of course, which is why I don't really consider Italians to be a very advanced society in comparison to Scandinavian countries, Benelux countries, UK, Germany and a few others in Europe. In the Middle East, people say Italians are the "Arabs of Europe"
I'm not singling Italy out, but the topic of discussion right now is Italy, not any other country. I'm just puzzled by your stance, I mean on the one hand you don't consider immigrants like Mastour to be true Italians, on the other hand you blame him for choosing Morocco?
To be honest, "ancestry" doesn't make a lot of sense, because everyone came to Italy from somewhere else. But hey, that's how most countries in the world view immigrants, right? Most countries, except developed western countries of course, which is why I don't really consider Italians to be a very advanced society in comparison to Scandinavian countries, Benelux countries, UK, Germany and a few others in Europe. In the Middle East, people say Italians are the "Arabs of Europe"
To be honest, "ancestry" doesn't make a lot of sense, because everyone came to Italy from somewhere else. But hey, that's how most countries in the world view immigrants, right? Most countries, except developed western countries of course, which is why I don't really consider Italians to be a very advanced society in comparison to Scandinavian countries, Benelux countries, UK, Germany and a few others in Europe. In the Middle East, people say Italians are the "Arabs of Europe"
Again it isn't that simple. There is a big chance that immigrants in countries like those that I mentioned might actually feel that they belong to that country. Look at Belgium for example, most of their NT is comprised of players who are 1st or 2nd generation immigrants, but do you think players like Kompany, Lukaku and co don't identify as being Belgian? I think they do, because it's a country that is inclusive, unlike Italy.
Your location says "Joisey", I assume you're referring to New Jersey, NY. I'd venture and guess you're an American Italian, if you are, why do you believe you have a right to consider yourself American more than Mastour or any other immigrant can consider himself a citizen of his adopted country?
Your location says "Joisey", I assume you're referring to New Jersey, NY. I'd venture and guess you're an American Italian, if you are, why do you believe you have a right to consider yourself American more than Mastour or any other immigrant can consider himself a citizen of his adopted country?
For your information FRED, i am actually from Torino ok bub. and you make great points but like u and i both stated italy is not totally welcoming the idea of immigration regardless of it taking place. I understand there are far more important topics to be discussed and resolved but I never thought it was right to represent a team that you dont ancestorial ties to.
and you make great points but like u and i both stated italy is not totally welcoming the idea of immigration regardless of it taking place. I understand there are far more important topics to be discussed and resolved but I never thought it was right to represent a team that you dont ancestorial ties to.
These immigrants they come to a country where they got their dreams, their wealth and everything taken care and then they turn their back on them, that's a parasite. If you are saying these immigrants doesn't feel accepted then why are they still coming to Italy. Shouldn't they go back to their own country.