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I dont know where to talk about this, so it will be in this topic.
Brazil is now playing Sweden, with the main NT.
The team: Gabriel; D. Alves, T. Silva, David Luiz, Alex Sandro; Romulo, Paulinho, Ramires, Oscar; Neymar, Damiao.
It's not far from the team that will play in 2014 Brazil WC. It sould be the same team with a different GK, Marcelo on the left, maybe Pato for Damiao.
In defense, we are set with T. Silva, D. Alves, Marcelo, some of the top players of the world at their position.
Romulo is a good DM, not great, but good enough. Not a big difference between him and Lucas Leiva. He's 22 I think.
Paulinho is also a good CM, very dynamic, active, good passing, presents himself in attack constantly. Another good, but not great player. He's 23 I think.
Other playes to take into consideration are Dedé, who can become a very good CB. Hernanes as a backup midfielder. On the bench also the likes of Ganso, Lucas Moura, Hulk, Pato (or Damiao).
In Brazil there are some up and coming young players u don't know yet, like Bernard of Atletico Mineiro (19yr old, left winger, same position of Neymar), Marcos Rocha also of Atletico Mineiro (22 yrs old right back), Adryan of Flamengo (17 yr old, classic skilful playmaker), Wallace of Fluminense (18 yr old right back), Fernando of Gremio (complete 18yr old CM), among others. These guys could step up and be part of the NT at the WC in 2 yrs.
So my question is: what do you think of this new generation of players? Will they actually become WC (Neymar already is IMO)? And more importantly, can they win WC against Messi's Argentina and the great teams of Spain and Germany?
Brazil is now playing Sweden, with the main NT.
The team: Gabriel; D. Alves, T. Silva, David Luiz, Alex Sandro; Romulo, Paulinho, Ramires, Oscar; Neymar, Damiao.
It's not far from the team that will play in 2014 Brazil WC. It sould be the same team with a different GK, Marcelo on the left, maybe Pato for Damiao.
In defense, we are set with T. Silva, D. Alves, Marcelo, some of the top players of the world at their position.
Romulo is a good DM, not great, but good enough. Not a big difference between him and Lucas Leiva. He's 22 I think.
Paulinho is also a good CM, very dynamic, active, good passing, presents himself in attack constantly. Another good, but not great player. He's 23 I think.
Other playes to take into consideration are Dedé, who can become a very good CB. Hernanes as a backup midfielder. On the bench also the likes of Ganso, Lucas Moura, Hulk, Pato (or Damiao).
In Brazil there are some up and coming young players u don't know yet, like Bernard of Atletico Mineiro (19yr old, left winger, same position of Neymar), Marcos Rocha also of Atletico Mineiro (22 yrs old right back), Adryan of Flamengo (17 yr old, classic skilful playmaker), Wallace of Fluminense (18 yr old right back), Fernando of Gremio (complete 18yr old CM), among others. These guys could step up and be part of the NT at the WC in 2 yrs.
So my question is: what do you think of this new generation of players? Will they actually become WC (Neymar already is IMO)? And more importantly, can they win WC against Messi's Argentina and the great teams of Spain and Germany?
the biggest problem is that there is a gap between this generation and the last one. The likes of Ronaldo, Adriano and Ronaldinho fucked it all up with their careers, and Kaka simply disappeared, not being able to provide a smooth transition to the new kids. The following generation of generation of Diego, Robinho, Vagner Love and Luis Fabiano was big failure.
So these new young fellows started playing in the NT with a huge load of pressure on their shoulders. Neymar is the biggest name of the NT team since he was 18... it's not easy man. And there's a WC coming here. in 1950 we had the biggest disappointment of Brazilian football history, losing the final to Uruguay 2-0 in front of almost 200.000 people in Maracana. And it's been 2 WCs lost in 4-finals in a row now. The pressure is just absurd.
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cheers
So these new young fellows started playing in the NT with a huge load of pressure on their shoulders. Neymar is the biggest name of the NT team since he was 18... it's not easy man. And there's a WC coming here. in 1950 we had the biggest disappointment of Brazilian football history, losing the final to Uruguay 2-0 in front of almost 200.000 people in Maracana. And it's been 2 WCs lost in 4-finals in a row now. The pressure is just absurd.
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cheers
I watched the 2nd half.
Regarding Juve-related players, from the little I've seen, my impressions:
Astori - looks decent. Tall but not slow.
Ogbonna - tall and strong, but rather slow, at least in terms of agility.
Peluso - I actually liked this guy. He is tall but not slow - fairly quick/agile. Did decently as a LB. Almost scored a goal, and also almost scored an own goal. But tbh it was better than I expected. He could be a solid role player as a LB/CB.
Verratti - didn't do well
Poli - got late in the game
Destro - looks slow, but dangerous inside the area. Good finisher
Gabbiadini - at first sight, looks clumsy and slow. Had a very good header which almost was transformed into a goal.
Regarding Juve-related players, from the little I've seen, my impressions:
Astori - looks decent. Tall but not slow.
Ogbonna - tall and strong, but rather slow, at least in terms of agility.
Peluso - I actually liked this guy. He is tall but not slow - fairly quick/agile. Did decently as a LB. Almost scored a goal, and also almost scored an own goal. But tbh it was better than I expected. He could be a solid role player as a LB/CB.
Verratti - didn't do well
Poli - got late in the game
Destro - looks slow, but dangerous inside the area. Good finisher
Gabbiadini - at first sight, looks clumsy and slow. Had a very good header which almost was transformed into a goal.
England won 2-1 in the end. Nice goal from Defoe to win it, although I think Sirigu should clearly have saved it.
It was a decent game as there were some niggly tackles from the Italy players early on, and it became more interesting.
Pretty even game overall. First half mixed, two goals scored from corners. Second half Italy were better for half of it then after the changes England were better.
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Peluso did well, he is certainly fast for his height. He was very direct and always looking to play quick through balls, 1-2s and overlap. I think people would be surprised by him.
Gabbiadini is strictly a box player, and didn't have a lot to work with really as Italy were pretty bad after the changes.
Verratti looked very lightweight.
I thought De Rossi and Destro had fine games. Aquilani was absolute garbage and shouldn't be near the team again.
It was a decent game as there were some niggly tackles from the Italy players early on, and it became more interesting.
Pretty even game overall. First half mixed, two goals scored from corners. Second half Italy were better for half of it then after the changes England were better.
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Peluso did well, he is certainly fast for his height. He was very direct and always looking to play quick through balls, 1-2s and overlap. I think people would be surprised by him.
Gabbiadini is strictly a box player, and didn't have a lot to work with really as Italy were pretty bad after the changes.
Verratti looked very lightweight.
I thought De Rossi and Destro had fine games. Aquilani was absolute garbage and shouldn't be near the team again.
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Changes really disrupted Italy.
Thought Destro looked dangerous and liked Ogbonna's physical side.
Gabbiadini looks like he could be useful, had a header cleared off the line.
Not so sure about Peluso, he failed to stop any crosses getting into the box down his side. Doesn't look good enough defensively or have the skill going forward, just relies on his athleticism.
Thought Destro looked dangerous and liked Ogbonna's physical side.
Gabbiadini looks like he could be useful, had a header cleared off the line.
Not so sure about Peluso, he failed to stop any crosses getting into the box down his side. Doesn't look good enough defensively or have the skill going forward, just relies on his athleticism.
