Azzurri Thread (111 Viewers)

[X Æ A-12]

Sure, but clearly shows his character.

It shows that he will do anything for money.

6kg is shite load of heroin. Depending upon the purity he could have had over 1.5mil$ worth of powder in his undies.

 

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[Enron]

Story would have been better if the villain were Justin Bieber... HIYO!

 

[Martin]

Moreno stuffing a few kilograms of heroin up his arse has nothing to do with 2002. Sure it damages his credibility, but that doesn't mean everything he ever did was dishonest.

No, but he was actually caught in corruption in some domestic match in Ecuador, so it's not such an outlandish claim.

 

[Bjerknes]

Let's hear someone defend this guy. He was CLEARLY bought in the South Korea - Italy match.

Please, acknowledge it!

Prove it or shut up once and for all. Stop trying to pull an Inter.

 

[MikeM]

Prove it or shut up once and for all. Stop trying to pull an Inter.

Either you're really stubborn or really naive.

If I showed anyone the Korea-Italy match and then I told them the ref is literally a criminal and was proven to fix matches in the past I would have to prove that he's NOT crooked.

 

[Bjerknes]

Either you're really stubborn or really naive.

If I showed anyone the Korea-Italy match and then I told them the ref is literally a criminal and was proven to fix matches in the past I would have to prove that he's NOT crooked.

And yet only the Azzurri fans, here, are convinced that he fixed the match with Korea and FIFA. Hmmmmm.... I wonder why that is? Surely alllllllllll the Azzurri fans are unbiased, uhem. Right...

Even if he did fix the match, surely he'd receive a huge payout, right? With that sort of spotlight on him, he would have to demand millions of dollars from FIFA or Korea so that he could live happily ever after. So now what does he do? Enter into the drag smuggling business? Yeah, that just makes so much sense!

Again, prove the thing or grow up already.

 

[X Æ A-12]

You really think Moreno just had a bad day out there? Same with the ref in the Korea - Spain game?

 

[Gabriel]

And yet only the Azzurri fans, here, are convinced that he fixed the match with Korea and FIFA. Hmmmmm.... I wonder why that is? Surely alllllllllll the Azzurri fans are unbiased, uhem. Right...

Remember the Azzurri was a certainity for the cup if it wasn't for Moreno, and they were also a certainity for the Euro if it wasn't for those damned scandinavians. Seriously it's a fucking plot against the mighty and invincible azzurri!!!, cup after cup everyone's plotting against them and wants to see them fail miserably even FIFA!!.

 

[Bjerknes]

You really think Moreno just had a bad day out there? Same with the ref in the Korea - Spain game?

Looking over the calls again, they were not totally outlandish to the point of saying FIX FIX FIX, in my opinion. Italy was hard-done by on the offside Tommasi play which was VERY close, along with the Totti red card, which actually was not a penalty. Apart from that, they were normal calls that Moreno might have gotten wrong because he's a poor referee. He was an absolute assclown, folks need to provide some evidence apart from certain calls during a match. We all see horrendous refereeing all the time, ESPECIALLY at the last World Cup.

All of it needs to be addressed. And if there is evidence against Moreno apart from calls during a match, I will listen. Who knows, all of this pressure about him fixing World Cup matches might have destroyed his life... if he's a sissy.

Remember the Azzurri was a certainity for the cup if it wasn't for Moreno, and they were also a certainity for the Euro if it wasn't for those damned scandinavians. Seriously it's a fucking plot against the mighty and invincible azzurri!!!, cup after cup everyone's plotting against them and wants to see them fail miserably even FIFA!!.

If I was them, I would so RUE the fact "we" won the World Cup in 2006.

Those fuckers in FIFA should have allowed France to take the pitch with 13 players and two Zidanes to support our Thesaurussesssszzzzzzzz we wuz conspirified agunst uzzzzzz!

 

[Gabriel]

It amuses me that, after 8 years they're still whining and crying over the same damn issue with no proof at all.

 

[X Æ A-12]

This is the most pointless fucking debate ever. It never goes anywhere.

 

[Bjerknes]

But it's like me complaining about the 2002 Frings handball on the goal-line nonstop (despite it being an obvious call, an obvious game-changer, in a much more important situation) despite it being obvious it was just the wrong call. There wasn't a reason to keep the US out of the Semifinals in a country where they actually like us considering we support them against North Korea, despite us playing against them in the group stage. It was simply a really bad call, one I have to accept to promote forward progress. And in reality, poor calls like those are actually character-builders.... as an athlete that should provide you with the drive to get revenge.

Even though it might not be so, perhaps the whole "everyone is out there to get us" mentality, developed in 2002, 2004, and 2006, helped Italy along to their 2006 summer success. With Calciopoli and all, my hypothesis might be true.

 

[JuveJay]

Just to add, I watched the game with many non-Italy fans, and they were just laughing at what was going on, couldn't believe it. Throw in the Spain game that followed, which was almost as absurd overall but probably had even more controversial incidents. So it's not just Azzurri fans, but it's worth noting that with Italy in football terms there is often a strong pro or anti standpoint from football watchers. Maybe therein lies the problem, one huge response brings a hugely contrasting one.

Clearly this argument will never be finalised unless Moreno comes out and admits something, my view is that ignoring other events that have happened to Italy over the years, and there have been several just like other teams, mistakes, also things going for them, this one match stands out above the rest just for the sheer drama and building of anger. After the 5th, 6th and 7th ridiculous waving of play on after a clear foul it started to become absurd and then people start getting angry and losing objectivity, then everything becomes a foul or a yellow. This is directly the referees fault, for how he handles the game. Throw in a wrongly disallowed goal and a sending off instead of a penalty and it becomes what it did, it just built and built.

Only Moreno knows what he was thinking during the match, but I don't particularly agree with the theory that he threw it. Just that he was weak, he is clearly a weak character, and FIFA are directly responsible for employing him. A guy who a year later is given a 20 match suspension for corruption involving the domestic league leaders in Ecuador. That just added to the corrupt theory in 2002, and now this cocaine business builds it more.

It's probably right what you say, Andy, when things don't go your way it makes you more determined. For me Calciopoli was absolutely the catalyst for 2006, but it's tough to win without having good players in the first place. In 2010 Italy had the wrong mentality completely, everything was wrong, even with inferior players they should clearly have done better.

 

[pitbull]

Glad that he's going to be in prison for long time. Lad earned his time there much earlier, can't stand guys like him.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

If Prandelli is smart, he'd pick Balzaretti in his next squad to play N Ireland and Serbia in the qualifiers.


Cassani-----Chiellini------Bonucci-----------Balzaretti


Is ATM Italy's best backline.

 

[Enron]

South Korea FTW!!!

Pitbull called me a troll. And gave me a neg rep.

 

[Gabriel]

But why? , SK rules.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Pitbull is gay.

 

[MikeM]

And yet only the Azzurri fans, here, are convinced that he fixed the match with Korea and FIFA. Hmmmmm.... I wonder why that is? Surely alllllllllll the Azzurri fans are unbiased, uhem. Right...

Even if he did fix the match, surely he'd receive a huge payout, right? With that sort of spotlight on him, he would have to demand millions of dollars from FIFA or Korea so that he could live happily ever after. So now what does he do? Enter into the drag smuggling business? Yeah, that just makes so much sense!

Again, prove the thing or grow up already.

lol, Fifa or Korea? The ref demanding money from FIFA? LOL. Now I know why you don't believe in this stuff. You don't understand it.

 

[Bjerknes]

lol, Fifa or Korea? The ref demanding money from FIFA? LOL. Now I know why you don't believe in this stuff. You don't understand it.

Actually, I'm very well versed in conspiracy theory. Trust me. :eyebrows: