Atomic Winter mercato 2016 (37 Viewers)

[DutchJuventino]

Oh but Dutch and German articles says also Rooney earns 16.1 million a year on salaries excl. bonusses etc.
Maybe i am wrong but then are the Dutch and German articles also wrong because they say it is net wages.

 

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[Xperd]

Germany also report wages in gross.

Spain, Italy, France all report in NET figures.

Rooney earns £300K a week as per British sources.Now assume this as net and convert it into annual salary.The figure will exceed 20m in euros which is impossible.
Only one player earns above €20m and that's Messi.

 

[DutchJuventino]

Ok sorry i was wrong, i believe you on your words.

 

[Xperd]

Ok sorry i was wrong, i believe you on your words.

If we went as per your assumption , we would've never been able to sign Tevez or we would never be able to keep our other top players on long term contracts

Trust me, this confusion persists among many people to this day.Especially those cunts on EPL forums who still believe we pay poverty wages to our players.

 

[Klin]

Oh and people forget the wages from PL players. Mata earns 9.5 million netto each year and Oscar earns 6.5 each year.
Oscar seems to be realistic but he need to cut his wages with 1 million.

No, no, no ... this are net wages. You underestimate the wages in the Premier League, even Shaqiri earns 6.5 million a year at Stoke and Rooney is above the 15 million, De Gea around 12 million. It's ridicioulus. So Mata is only possible if he cut half his wages.

@j0ker

 

[Orgut]

I saw some matches of Utd. this season, but Mata isn't te worldclass player some saying. He is too inconsistent, his matches are a four or a nine. He hasn't the work-ethic of for example Oscar and do maximal 3-5 really impressive things in a match. Juan Mata is a good player but he doesn't defend and that is really important for our tactics. I like him but i will not pay more than 15-20 million, and 20 is the maximum.

I think we need a hardworking attacking midfielder. With Dybala, Pogba, Marchisio and even Morata (!) we have enough creativity to play our style of football. If we play like Barcelona or Bayern Munchen we need more creative players, but I see Juve more as a team like Atletico Madrid, Dortmund (if we talks about tactics etc.)

Hardworking attacking midfielders who are in our reach:
- Saponara
- Alex Texeira
- Di Maria, but looks unreachable atm
- Oscar
- Banega (?)

talents: Praet, Oliver Torres

And than is the question: will these players better than Pereyra as AM, if yes are the worth that amount of money?
I think only Texeira and Di Maria will be a big upgrade, Saponara will be good too if you can get him for low fee max 15 million.

Texeira is a good player but isnt a world class player!
Di Maria however is on another level to the ones mentioned here! He is an assist machine! but is unavailable as he plays for PSG

It seems our major signings for next season are already set Gundogan for CM and Berardi for forward so I guess we are going for a modified 4-3-3 next season or something like that
Dybala will surely play while Berardi it would be a crime not letting him... the problem I see there is that A.Sandro will be much more effective in a 3-5-2 formation when he has more freedom getting forward than a 4-3-3 formation which he would need to play a more defensive role!

 

[Valerio.]

the truth!?!?
we'll never buy any affirmed champion.
Cause they are expensive and demand huge fees.
We might invest lot of money on youngsters but nothing else.
We can give medium-high fees to the club but the salary has to be low.

How many years has passed since we bought an already HUGE player instead of developing him?
Don't tell me Tevez and Pirlo. Cause one came for free and the other one was a reject in M. City that nobody wanted aside us and milan.

 

[Zacheryah]

Banega is a starter for Milan, Inter , Napoli etc

But he's a sub material for Juventus.He wouldn't start in our midfield.

You'll be highly disappointed if you expect him to be a difference maker.

Oscar is a different story though.

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You're uninformed.

Wages in England are ALWAYS reported in gross.

In Spain and Italy, it's reported in NET.

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Rooney's salary-£300K a week GROSS = €10.5m NET

Well yeah. I expect Banega to compete for a spot.

Oscar would be a starter rather quickly.


But I wouldnt mind Banega. Usefull

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Texeira is a good player but isnt a world class player!
Di Maria however is on another level to the ones mentioned here! He is an assist machine! but is unavailable as he plays for PSG

It seems our major signings for next season are already set Gundogan for CM and Berardi for forward so I guess we are going for a modified 4-3-3 next season or something like that
Dybala will surely play while Berardi it would be a crime not letting him... the problem I see there is that A.Sandro will be much more effective in a 3-5-2 formation when he has more freedom getting forward than a 4-3-3 formation which he would need to play a more defensive role!

Its clearly established we cannot get Gundogan, why bring it up ?

 

[j0ker]

Its clearly established we cannot get Gundogan, why bring it up ?

How is it clearly established?

Did you wake up today and decided that we won't get him or what?

 

[Zacheryah]

How is it clearly established?

Did you wake up today and decided that we won't get him or what?

How can you miss so much ?

 

[j0ker]

How can you miss so much ?

I have read some of the replies you gave to Klin and I am not saying we are going to get him or it will be easy, but clearly established?

This is not Neymar we are talking about, nor do we have a 5mln budget.

Plus we will have the Pogba money

 

[The Quazis]

If Gundogan wanted to leave we wouldn't be without a chance to sign him. Juventus can afford to spend 30 mln euro on a player of his level and Juve can satisfy the player's ambitions. However, it depends who else would be interested in signing him. Obviously we stand no chance competing with Barca, RM, United, Chelsea, City, Bayern or PSG but if neither of them is interested, we can get him.

 

[Zacheryah]

I have read some of the replies you gave to Klin and I am not saying we are going to get him or it will be easy, but clearly established?

This is not Neymar we are talking about, nor do we have a 5mln budget.

Plus we will have the Pogba money

Ah, i see where you comming from, aight then, but i think it remains pretty valid.

Madrid has a hole in their midfield if Modric catches a cold
Every single EPL team lacks an itelligent player in their central axis, apart from United but schweini isnt aging well. They are all desperate for an excellent deep intelligent player, wich genuine forward treath.

I'm told by a few members that Gundogan is returning to his quality from before his injury. Lets remind, we were all thinking he was superior to Verratti cause equally in his good skills, but alot better in his letter ones.
If such players comes onto the market, its not about wether Marotta is clever. Gundogan and his agent knows all these richer team are desperate for him.

If Marotta makes an offer, he'll refuse it, or draw it out and gain publicity to use it as a way of getting attention from the correct teams. We have no chance.


There is no chance he can come here. None.

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If Gundogan wanted to leave we wouldn't be without a chance to sign him. Juventus can afford to spend 30 mln euro on a player of his level and Juve can satisfy the player's ambitions. However, it depends who else would be interested in signing him. Obviously we stand no chance competing with Barca, RM, United, Chelsea, City, Bayern or PSG but if neither of them is interested, we can get him.

"30 million ? Thats nice, now move along peasant. Here is my 45 million fee and 7 million wage offer, now go and put on this blue shirt and play it to hazard" -Abramohich

"Not so fast son, how about 55 million and 9 million wages, and you can pass it to de Bruyne and Aguero, you can also come wip my slaves in the preseason"- that sheik from city

"If Louis can spend 250 million and get kicked out of CL, then so can I, how about 65 million and 12 mil wages, and try to get compared with certain skills from Scoles" - the next man utd manager

"Flair and Fancy and effective ? Shut the fuck up son, how about 120 million and 40 million wages, and play with Ronaldo, Bale, Kroos, Modric and enjoy getting shafted against barcelona"- next real madrid manager



30 million , are you gonna buy some bread or fucking what

 

[Lion]

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Fucken hell Zach

 

[DAiDEViL]

"...€3m loan with option to buy set at €12m. wages: €2m to €4m depending
on appearances.
some time ago you were thought to be a abysmal fat kebab swallowing cripple.

accept it or forget it." - Beppe.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

He'll make Michael Zorc an offer he can't refuse.

 

[Cronios]

Is Uncle Beppe Claus gonna hit the town for us?

 

[DAiDEViL]

He'll make Michael Zorc an offer he can't refuse.

he'll go full horst heldt on him

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Is Uncle Beppe Claus gonna hit the town for us?

nah, too many bad boys on this forum.

 

[Klin]

How is it clearly established?

Did you wake up today and decided that we won't get him or what?

It is rather clear.

Ah, i see where you comming from, aight then, but i think it remains pretty valid.

Madrid has a hole in their midfield if Modric catches a cold
Every single EPL team lacks an itelligent player in their central axis, apart from United but schweini isnt aging well. They are all desperate for an excellent deep intelligent player, wich genuine forward treath.

I'm told by a few members that Gundogan is returning to his quality from before his injury. Lets remind, we were all thinking he was superior to Verratti cause equally in his good skills, but alot better in his letter ones.
If such players comes onto the market, its not about wether Marotta is clever. Gundogan and his agent knows all these richer team are desperate for him.

If Marotta makes an offer, he'll refuse it, or draw it out and gain publicity to use it as a way of getting attention from the correct teams. We have no chance.


There is no chance he can come here. None.

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"30 million ? Thats nice, now move along peasant. Here is my 45 million fee and 7 million wage offer, now go and put on this blue shirt and play it to hazard" -Abramohich

"Not so fast son, how about 55 million and 9 million wages, and you can pass it to de Bruyne and Aguero, you can also come wip my slaves in the preseason"- that sheik from city

"If Louis can spend 250 million and get kicked out of CL, then so can I, how about 65 million and 12 mil wages, and try to get compared with certain skills from Scoles" - the next man utd manager

"Flair and Fancy and effective ? Shut the fuck up son, how about 120 million and 40 million wages, and play with Ronaldo, Bale, Kroos, Modric and enjoy getting shafted against barcelona"- next real madrid manager



30 million , are you gonna buy some bread or fucking what

Since when has this become a thing? I also read a post where you were saying Lewa was crap, doesn't mean he is. We also heard DP84 saying we don't need Tevez because he's a pile of shit and we have Giovinco, doesn't mean we didn't. We also ready RUS saying Napoli > Dortmund, doesn't mean they are as a club.

You lost any kind of credibility by saying that you're basing your (unusually strong) opinion based on some random comments you read here.