Antonio Conte (83 Viewers)

[PhRoZeN]

Pep was used to managing big clubs, afterall he came from managing one, his only experience was at a big club. I don't think it's brave, I think it's where and how your start your management career, it's the only thing he knew. You don't see him choosing a smaller club either or a club that was off form.

I don't think it's a bad thing that conte managed clubs which had come off a poor season. What's wrong with that? Some people are used to following a certain way, so it could be habitual rather than fear, if it works, why change it? If it doesn't then it's time to change or move on. He doesn't like losing, or not getting the best out of his players, we all know what his like and only uses the 'well this team was 7th' last season to relieve pressure off his players. Mourinho uses other strategies to relieve pressure off his players too. Again, I don't see anything wrong with that, it's a psychological. He will learn and improve.

He left us not when he failed but when he won (depending on how you rate CL and what the expectations were), and there was every chance he would have won a double again and with more experience get us further in CL had he stayed, subject to his personal motivation. At the end of the day he is a winner, he won with us and most likely will win a double with Chelsea too. The guy deserves respect, if not as our legend then the least as a manager.

 

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[Post Ironic]

Pep was used to managing big clubs, afterall he came from managing one, his only experience was at a big club. I don't think it's brave, I think it's where and how your start your management career, it's the only thing he knew. You don't see him choosing a smaller club either or a club that was off form.

I don't think it's a bad thing that conte managed clubs which had come off a poor season. What's wrong with that? Some people are used to following a certain way, so it could be habitual rather than fear, if it works, why change it? If it doesn't then it's time to change or move on. He doesn't like losing, or not getting the best out of his players, we all know what his like and only uses the 'well this team was 7th' last season to relieve pressure off his players. Mourinho uses other strategies to relieve pressure off his players too. Again, I don't see anything wrong with that, it's a psychological. He will learn and improve.

He left us not when he failed but when he won (depending on how you rate CL and what the expectations were), and there was every chance he would have won a double again and with more experience get us further in CL had he stayed, subject to his personal motivation. At the end of the day he is a winner, he won with us and most likely will win a double with Chelsea too. The guy deserves respect, if not as our legend then the least as a manager.

When did Conte ever win us a domestic double?

 

[PhRoZeN]

When did Conte ever win us a domestic double?

Doh! You're right, who cares he would have won scudetto, supercoppa and serie A coach of the year award anyway

 

[Klin]

Pep was used to managing big clubs, afterall he came from managing one, his only experience was at a big club. I don't think it's brave, I think it's where and how your start your management career, it's the only thing he knew. You don't see him choosing a smaller club either or a club that was off form.

I don't think it's a bad thing that conte managed clubs which had come off a poor season. What's wrong with that? Some people are used to following a certain way, so it could be habitual rather than fear, if it works, why change it? If it doesn't then it's time to change or move on. He doesn't like losing, or not getting the best out of his players, we all know what his like and only uses the 'well this team was 7th' last season to relieve pressure off his players. Mourinho uses other strategies to relieve pressure off his players too. Again, I don't see anything wrong with that, it's a psychological. He will learn and improve.

He left us not when he failed but when he won (depending on how you rate CL and what the expectations were), and there was every chance he would have won a double again and with more experience get us further in CL had he stayed, subject to his personal motivation. At the end of the day he is a winner, he won with us and most likely will win a double with Chelsea too. The guy deserves respect, if not as our legend then the least as a manager.

Maybe if he stays enough with the same club in CL, we can finally know that. With Juve though, his tactics were limited as high work-rate can only take you so far, and that is without mentioning his negative mentality when facing better equipped squads (at least on paper).

 

[IliveForJuve]

I would love to see Conte at either Milan or Inter.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Maybe if he stays enough with the same club in CL, we can finally know that. With Juve though, his tactics were limited as high work-rate can only take you so far, and that is without mentioning his negative mentality when facing better equipped squads (at least on paper).

I agree with the tactics but it takes years to master the art, or you adapt when things go wrong, or if you come out a top coaching school. In conte's case, he will get better, his got less than a third of experience to Max in Europe, and in comparison a sixth of it being from CL alone, which explains his somewhat negative and overly cautious approach. Though I don't see Conte failing in Europe next season ( depending on how you class failure). They will get to quarters, while destroying all the teams in their group.

 

[Hist]

What high expacations? Conte was not expected to win the league with Juve in his first season, nor win the Euro last year and for that matter, neither does he this season with Chelsea. If anything, he always seems to take these jobs where it would be almost impossible to do worse than his previous coach before his tenure at the club. It's almost like his signature, which explains the rumors of him joining Inter or Milan in the coming years.

What high expectations? These are top clubs that fire coaches regularly. If he repeats what the coaches previous to him did in terms of performance or only a slight improvement on it he is sacked. It seem you have forgotten how many coaches we went through before getting him and how easily Abramovic sacks coaches. The Inter and Milan jobs are not easy in any way and thats why every season they change one or two coaches.

You make it sound like he is coaching Arsenal. Chelsea is more cut-through than any club in England. The only worse top club at this are Madrid.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

He showed glimpses of brilliance though. Anyone remember both Madrid matches? We were the better team in the away match and it was very equal in the home leg.

We outplayed them with 10 men as Ronaldo feigned injury and pretended he got elbowed and got Chiellini sent off and we still were outplaying them with 10 men.

He switched to a 4-3-3 for both Real Madrid matches and we played our best football all season for both of those matches. For all the other games in the CL he went back to his tried and trusted 3-5-2 and that under performed to say the least.

I think overall he was too stubborn with the 3-5-2. Playing 5 defenders when the other team was allowing us easy possession and parking the bus and needing a win it's not good enough to play 3 centre backs when it could have easily been an extra midfielder or attacker.

He was very hesitant to change things mid match he would often wait very late to make subs and sometimes he would make the wrong subs.

He just never got the adjustment from the league to Europe right. I'm sure some of it was down to inexperience.

After seeing what he done with such a poor Italian team at the Euro's i'm pretty confident he has learned and improved as a coach. He impressed me very much with how much he got out of that team as it was the worst Italian team in 30-40 years Italy has ever had.

No it wasn't.

 

[ALC]

No it wasn't.

Attack wise only. The midfield and defense were incredible. Not to mention GK.

 

[Fr3sh]

I would love to see Conte at either Milan or Inter.

Then he'd claim he brought serie a back to life

 

[IliveForJuve]

Then he'd claim he brought serie a back to life

"We have to remember where we came from, Serie A was fourth on the UEFA ranking."

 

[ADP1897]

Hello all,

I'm a Chelsea fan and I come in peace. Congratulations on reaching the final (near enough) of the Champions League. Would be nice to see someone destroy the Spanish duopoly of Real and Barca and you've already beaten one.

As we will be competing in the CL next season, why did Conte struggle so much in the competition when he was Juve manager?

To be fair, he only led us 2 year at europe, and Juve was his 1st big club, with european cup to fight for.
He did good at his 1st campaign at CL, and worse at his 2nd spell..
And when we could fight for EL at our own stadium, he chooses to fight for useless Serie A record, unbelieveable.

I don't follow EPL, did he still bring up last season performance everytime he was interviewed?
I'm grateful what he did to Juve, but certainly not a fan of his constant reminder of "remember where we came from"

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[Vialli_92]

No it wasn't.

It's definitely the worst team on paper I have seen in my lifetime.

So many average players on the team you have to go back a long time to see a worse team

 

[Fr3sh]

"We have to remember where we came from, Serie A was fourth on the UEFA ranking."

 

[zizinho]

Attack wise only. The midfield and defense were incredible. Not to mention GK.

SSs and wings were also good, the position they lacked in was CF

 

[duranfj]

Italy MF was terrible. Verrati and Marchisio were out in case you missed it. Conte made Giaccherini, Parolo, Eder and Pelle looked way way better than they actually are so kuddos for Conte there

 

[Hist]

Attack wise only. The midfield and defense were incredible. Not to mention GK.

Parolo Giacherrini, sturrururururu and de rossi are truly incredible. Not to mention that marchisio and verratti (who werent there) are nowhere near the previous generation of italian midfielders.

 

[zizinho]

Italy MF was terrible. Verrati and Marchisio were out in case you missed it. Conte made Giaccherini, Parolo, Eder and Pelle looked way way better than they actually are so kuddos for Conte there

Conte also left out and didnt call up better players than those, so there you go. Jorginho played a great season with Napoli, and while guys like Soriano, Bonaventura arent world class, they would have been better options for the bench than the ones Conte had called up. not to mention that he could have called up some of the younger guys like Benassi or Cataldi. in attack it was the same thing. he had better players than Eder or Pelle (Insigne, El Shaarawy, Immobile, Zaza) sitting on the bench and guys like Berardi, Belotti, Gabbiadini not even called up. look at this and tell me it isnt a semifinalist team atleast, with how shitty the competition at the last Euro was:

Buffon
Barzagli Bonucci Chiellini
Florenzi Jorginho De Rossi Bonaventura
Candreva Belotti El Shaarawy

bench: Darmian, De Sciglio, Giaccherini, Motta, Soriano, Parolo, Insigne, Bernardeschi, Immobile, Zaza/Gabbiadini


even with the team he had, which was names wise 4th-5th best in the tournament behind Germany, France and Spain, and maybe slightly behind Belgium (just maybe), a quarterfinal cant be considered a good result and an extraordinary accomplishment, like some people are presenting it.

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Parolo Giacherrini, sturrururururu and de rossi are truly incredible. Not to mention that marchisio and verratti (who werent there) are nowhere near the previous generation of italian midfielders.

i think the word you are looking for is imbeciles

 

[Hist]

Conte also left out and didnt call up better players than those, so there you go. Jorginho played a great season with Napoli, and while guys like Soriano, Bonaventura arent world class, they would have been better options for the bench than the ones Conte had called up. not to mention that he could have called up some of the younger guys like Benassi or Cataldi. in attack it was the same thing. he had better players than Eder or Pelle (Insigne, El Shaarawy, Immobile, Zaza) sitting on the bench and guys like Berardi, Belotti, Gabbiadini not even called up. look at this and tell me it isnt a semifinalist team atleast, with how shitty the competition at the last Euro was:

Buffon
Barzagli Bonucci Chiellini
Florenzi Jorginho De Rossi Bonaventura
Candreva Belotti El Shaarawy

bench: Darmian, De Sciglio, Giaccherini, Motta, Soriano, Parolo, Insigne, Bernardeschi, Immobile, Zaza/Gabbiadini


even with the team he had, which was names wise 4th-5th best in the tournament behind Germany, France and Spain, and maybe slightly behind Belgium (just maybe), a quarterfinal cant be considered a good result and an extraordinary accomplishment, like some people are presenting it.

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i think the word you are looking for is imbeciles

God I miss Pirlo. He made them all look like imbeciles.

 

[pitbull]

Conte also left out and didnt call up better players than those, so there you go. Jorginho played a great season with Napoli, and while guys like Soriano, Bonaventura arent world class, they would have been better options for the bench than the ones Conte had called up. not to mention that he could have called up some of the younger guys like Benassi or Cataldi. in attack it was the same thing. he had better players than Eder or Pelle (Insigne, El Shaarawy, Immobile, Zaza) sitting on the bench and guys like Berardi, Belotti, Gabbiadini not even called up. look at this and tell me it isnt a semifinalist team atleast, with how shitty the competition at the last Euro was:

Buffon
Barzagli Bonucci Chiellini
Florenzi Jorginho De Rossi Bonaventura
Candreva Belotti El Shaarawy

bench: Darmian, De Sciglio, Giaccherini, Motta, Soriano, Parolo, Insigne, Bernardeschi, Immobile, Zaza/Gabbiadini


even with the team he had, which was names wise 4th-5th best in the tournament behind Germany, France and Spain, and maybe slightly behind Belgium (just maybe), a quarterfinal cant be considered a good result and an extraordinary accomplishment, like some people are presenting it.

i think the word you are looking for is imbeciles

Belotti is very hot property now, but last summer he was a nobody. El Sha is a very ordinary player, I don't think he could've improved Italy's attack, maybe Insigne, but he also is no world beater. Eder did very well in my opinion, with that midfield and attack Italy was never going to dominate opponents so needed someone who can press hard and hold up the ball, something both El Sha and Insigne are incapable of doing.

besides Italy did not play 343 last summer, they played 352. if they went with your midget 343 against Germany they surely wouldn't get to penalties