Antonio Conte (84 Viewers)

[Xperd]

actually marotta was the one who wanted Inler instead of Vidal, it was Conte who objected to Inler in favour of Vidal.

what has whether Conte knew Pogba before we bought him have anything to do with all this? fact is Conte appreciated his talent and developed him in a manner that even SAF
failed to recognise!

Lets not forget the great man wanted Mazzarri to replace Del Neri.That was epic

 

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[Vlad]

Lets not forget the great man wanted Mazzarri to replace Del Neri.That was epic

Did he really? I missed that somehow

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Lets not forget the great man wanted Mazzarri to replace Del Neri.That was epic

Jees I don't even want to imagine what a failure that would have been

 

[Hydde]

agreed. here's a thought though:

what if conte knows something we dont? what if he knows there is going to be a significant cash injection, but Marota and Agnelli are planning to use to pay off the debts first, then use this next year when our budget hits the green, but conte wants to use most of it this year instead?

if we are to assume that the managment works with the coach, then they would let him know before hand what their budget is like. this is the only thing that makes sense to me, a major cash injection from outside the club that the club are secretive about.

I think taht all this crying he is doing is ebcause he wants the investment now, instead of later when the other sponsors deals and tv delas enter into the equation. I think its pretty obvious he doesnt wanna wait. Some money will come soon, but he doesnt want to wait. Hence his crying and moanign.

 

[Klovn]

How do you know it would have been a fauilure?

 

[Xperd]

Did he really? I missed that somehow

Believe it or not,Mazzarri was the first coach on Beppe's shortlist to replace Del Neri but this time thankfully Agnelli dint listen to Marotta like he did in 2010 with the disastrous appointment of Del Neri,and hired Conte instead.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

How do you know it would have been a fauilure?

he's a fucking loser, we would have scraped a european spot at best under him, and you can be sure he would never drop the 3-5-2

 

[Lion]

Hydde, yeah this is what i am saying. coaches don't just demand players out of the blue unless they know something know something is up. would be interesting to see what Agnelli has in mind for Marotta

 

[Hydde]

no you are the deluded one, you honestly telling me if Conte were to be replaced by some clown like mancini or montella Juve would have the same success as now if not better? $#@!ing get real. the only blind one is idiots like you who fail to appreciate that Conte's possible departure will have a major impact not just on the pitch but off it too but i don't expect a blind fool like you to understand things in the bigger picture.

I have never ever said that we would magically be better with another coach, in fact if you want to be a realist, we will most lickely suck major balls if anything. Unless we gat aserious coach who can handle the players and HANDLE THE GAMES in a better manner than conte. He is not the best coach or the only one you know.

You are an imbecile if you think i dont understand how good in terms Conte is with the players and all eh ahs achieved... but he is not the "end all be all" being he portraits to be.

What im pointing out is that even when we need inevstment in the team, and when conte is in his right to ask for player a or player B, HE IS DOING IT WRONG, and he is selling the idea that eh is HANDTIED by the board and nothing more can be done...WHEN HE IS the first one that needs to shut it up and do a major self evaluation of his performances in Juventus... because ill not be blinded by our 3 scudettos. It was something that was achieved BY EVERYONE, inlcuding marotta, Agnelli the players and everyone involded, NOT JUST CONTE.

 

[Tommy]

agreed. here's a thought though:

what if conte knows something we dont? what if he knows there is going to be a significant cash injection, but Marota and Agnelli are planning to use to pay off the debts first, then use this next year when our budget hits the green, but conte wants to use most of it this year instead?

if we are to assume that the managment works with the coach, then they would let him know before hand what their budget is like. this is the only thing that makes sense to me, a major cash injection from outside the club that the club are secretive about.

dat injection from dem al fardans and al emadis

 

[Hydde]

Hydde, yeah this is what i am saying. coaches don't just demand players out of the blue unless they know something know something is up. would be interesting to see what Agnelli has in mind for Marotta

MI very sure that they will follow the lines of past mercatos, finding cheap and interesting ipportunities like Tevez or llorente. At most, we will invest in sanchez and thats it. I think uts clear for everyone by now,.

We will not buy a player like di amria for sure.... or very unlikely a cuadrado taking in consideration the complexity and amount of money involved.....and if conte is demanding a player of that calider or higher... it will not happen. Hence the problem we have right now. Thats what i think.

 

[Post Ironic]

Protests will change nothing IMO. People can do whatever they like, but we're running a serious business here. Conte needs to lower his demands and continue with his project here, as there are not that many better alternative out there. If his demands are as ridiculous as media reported, and I'm a bit skeptical about that as it would mean that he has completely lost his mind, some reality check or intensive accounting course would do wonders for him.

I remain very skeptical that he has demanded 100+ mil of players this transfer window, or he walks... I think he wants to see a clear direction in the transfer market. His first 3 transfer markets (summer) we maxed out at under 20 mil for our top signings. I think he'd like to see progress in this fourth summer. Maybe we sign one 30 mil player and spend 60-70 mil total. I think he'd be more than happy to stay if we sign one of Sanchez, Di Maria, Cuadrado for around 30, and then spend another 30-40 mil on another 4 players or so. We should be able to spend 60-70 mil in a transfer window, or else we really cannot expect better than CL round of 16.

If he seriously wants us to buy Sanchez, Di Maria, and Cuadrado amongst others in one window, he's off his rocker and should move on. I really doubt this though. I think he just wants progress in the market.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I have never ever said that we would magically be better with another coach, in fact if you want to be a realist, we will most lickely suck major balls if anything. Unless we gat aserious coach who can handle the players and HANDLE THE GAMES in a better manner than conte. He is not the best coach or the only one you know.

You are an imbecile if you think i dont understand how good in terms Conte is with the players and all eh ahs achieved... but he is not the "end all be all" being he portraits to be.

What im pointing out is that even when we need inevstment in the team, and when conte is in his right to ask for player a or player B, HE IS DOING IT WRONG, and he is selling the idea that eh is HANDTIED by the board and nothing more can be done...WHEN HE IS the first one that needs to shut it up and do a major self evaluation of his performances in Juventus... because ill not be blinded by our 3 scudettos. It was something that was achieved BY EVERYONE, inlcuding marotta, Agnelli the players and everyone involded, NOT JUST CONTE.

wins 3 straight titles with the club and you think Conte has no right to demand improvements because the club demands success in Europe? you clearly forget that it was Agnelli and marotta that hired that imbecile delneri. Conte has played a huge part in our success whether you like it or not its a fucking fact, is it no coincidence to you that Conte is the only one pushing for improvements? where is andrea's ambitions? his 5 year plan will have turned out to be one big farse and a lie if he lets Conte go, especially if he is to replace him with a clown of a manager.

 

[Hydde]

The thing u dont want to adress is that Conte is no THAT good as you want to make him look. If the board was not ambitious they would have not signed players like Tevez and LLorente, and they would not be after sanchez right now...

BECAUSE YES, THOSE PLAYERS IS BEING AMBITIOUS FOR US!!. because if by being ambitious you mean to buy the dimarias and Falcaos of the world,, then you need a serious reality check...as we are faaaar from that league.

But whatever man,

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Hehe, Donadoni a candidate too?

 

[Xperd]

Such punchable faces in that list honestly.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

As far as Italian coaches go, I'd only take Montella and Prandelli (Not keen on him but 10x better than Spaletti/Allegri)

Of course, you have Carlo and Lippi but they for me are next to impossible. Unless Madrid throw a typical tantrum and sack Carlo if he loses the CL final.


So maybe Atletico winning the CL could get us big Carlo.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Ancelotti didn't really enjoy his time here, doubtful he'd return.

 

[Zacheryah]

Since when have Moggi's insights been relevant?

The best question one can ask when Moggi speaks really.

What Moggi does, is some sort of Cold reading. He doesnt have any inside info. But looking at what Coach and Board say, and using his own experience, he makes an educated guess, but has 0 evidence to support it.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

True, but it means very little considering everybody is new. The only thing that remains is the club name.


Pogba, for example, is pissed off at SAF and said he'd never return there so long as he's involved at the club. But his opinion of Man United as a club is still a positive one.

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Lol, Moggi has said some outlandish shit in the past few seasons. His quotes whether positive or negative should be looked on with no more importance than ones from your average journalist.