Antonio Conte (311 Viewers)

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ThirdStar

You know it's comin'
Jul 5, 2011
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He got 2 CLs in such a short time compared to Lippi and Ferguson. And his league title success is amazing--6 in 10 years. How can you say ratios mean nothing? And he's never had such bad seasons as the one with inter or that WC 2010 disaster. I love Lippi, but let's be real here.
Because, If it's about ratios, Pep guardiola wins it :) 100% league titles so far, and 2 champions leagues in 3 years. He's more efficient than Lippi, I'll give you that.

Let's assume Lippi won the three consecutive champions league finals? that would've been quite the achievement.

WC 2010? All the players performed badly, Fabio Cannavaro post caliopoli lol. It still won't dwarf his world cup of 2006.

I've got my opinion, you've got yours. Let's leave it at that.
 

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Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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Because, If it's about ratios, Pep guardiola wins it :) 100% league titles so far, and 2 champions leagues in 3 years. He's more efficient that Lippi, I'll give you that.

Let's assume Lemme won the three consecutive champions league finals? that would've been quite the achievement.

WC 2010? All the players performed badly, Fabio Cannavaro post caliopoli lol. It still won't dwarf his world cup of 2006.

I've got my opinion, you've got yours. Let's leave it at that.
Because 6 titles in 10 years is MUCH better than 5 in 28 years (Lippi). Yes, Pep's ratio is perfect and he is rightly considered one of the best around. But what Mourinho has that he and Lippi don't is that he's done in it 3 countries.

And yeah, all the players sucked in WC 2010 but the coach is always responsible for the failures, just like he is credited for the success.

You're right to have your opinion.
 

ThirdStar

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Jul 5, 2011
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Lippi coached many small teams that will never ever win the title, Mourinho went to Porto(aka Man City back then), Chelsea(finished runner ups), Inter(3 titles winners)
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
No one comes even close to Lippi. The best of all time.

That chewing gum prostitute or the special cunt can fuck themselves. When one of them wins a world cup (not only club trophies) then I'd sit down with them.
 

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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in all objectivity ratio wise Guardiola shits on everyone. But let's see how he does in the long run and/or with another club.

Don Lippi is the greatest IMO, but I'm surprised no one mentioned Capello.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
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in all objectivity ratio wise Guardiola shits on everyone. But let's see how he does in the long run and/or with another club.

Don Lippi is the greatest IMO, but I'm surprised no one mentioned Capello.
Guardiola still has to prove a lot. Coach different teams, NT, different environment etc.

Lippi and his cigar rule the definition of being the real coach:touched:
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,925
Lippi was so fucking cool. Swag, class, great man manager, great tactician, sick hair, great suits, cigar smokin', and had that "I dont give a fuck" aura about him. Such a fucking legend. I don't care that he failed miserably with Italy in 2010, the man has seen and done it all as a manager anyway. Comparing that cunt Mourinho to him is a fucking disgrace.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
19,250
3 Champions League finals in a row. Even Pep hasn't achieved that. Take everything else away, that alone is an honour nobody will probably achieve. We are all biased towards Lippi, but unfortunately his prime as coach, for me at least was in the 90's. And football wasn't as commercial a media vehicle as it is today. Which is why of we take this argument to the outside world, they will all collectively say Mourinho is the best (I believe to be on a similar level to Capello) but the only difference being, he knows how to use the media like nobody else and that mobilises opinion in his favour. In fact Capello might even be ranked higher than Lippi for some because he uses the media where it is perhaps the loudest in the football world, in England. Its very hard to rate Pep as a fantastic coach, because I think his team is the kind that comes along once in a generation. So while the stats favour him, I'd say his real test would come away from Barcelona.
 

jussr

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Jan 26, 2011
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Lippi is the man, 4 CL finals and a WC, beat Mourinho's achievements and Ferguson's. Mourinho can still beat him but it is easy when you've got so much money to win with. Lippi won in a different more competitive era.


And why I prefer Conte to Mourinho:
- He'd be here only for a couple of years at the most, with Conte there is a possibility of a new dynasty.
- He's an interista.
- With Conte it's about Juventus, with Mourinho it would be about Mourinho.
- He's very annoying and lacks class.
- Conte is a Juventus legend
- Conte was il capitano.
- Conte is cheaper
 

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