Antonio Conte (156 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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alex ferguson was in his comfort zone all these years, he stayed in a club where he knew the atmosphere there. Knew pretty much everyone and everything there. Plus in 25 years he managed to win 2 champions league titles while managers like Carlo Ancelotti and Mourinho managed to win 2 titles already in faar less time then he did and in mourinho's case he did it with two different teams.

Personaly i wouldn't consider a guy "the best" unless he challenged himself and got out from his comfort zone. Something that Ferguson didn't do....
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
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alex ferguson was in his comfort zone all these years, he stayed in a club where he knew the atmosphere there. Knew pretty much everyone and everything there. Plus in 25 years he managed to win 3 champions league titles (two of them he just won recently) while managers like Carlo Ancelotti and Mourinho managed to win 2 titles already in faar less time then he did and in mourinho's case he did it with two different teams.

Personaly i wouldn't consider a guy "the best" unless he challenged himself and got out from his comfort zone. Something that Ferguson didn't do....
Fair enough.
Beside his time in Porto, Mourinho had/has the means to buy the players he wants. Maybe it's because I really hate Mourinho, but I rate SAF over him, even though I don't like him too.
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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Fair enough.
Beside his time in Porto, Mourinho had/has the means to buy the players he wants. Maybe it's because I really hate Mourinho, but I rate SAF over him, even though I don't like him too.
I don't just rate Mourinho higher than Ferguson but even Lippi i rate him higher.

IMO the fact that Ferguson is a manchester united manager played a "big" role in the English media (specifically) rating him as the best.
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
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I prefer him to Mourinho. If someone offered me a straight swap Conte to Real and Mourinho to Juventus I'd say fuck no.
I've noticed your posts the lest few days. In just a few days you've become a mega troll. You just exploded into the scene. Great job.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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fergusson's win ratio is bad, especially considering the financial advantage man utd had all these years (wel and ability to make +700mil dept)

villas boas has it all to prove

ancelotti is pretty close

mancini is doing great in forming a team of expensive mercenaries

but mourinho is the best coach since lippi prime, hands down.

went fromagressive pressure at porto, into opponent killing inter, to fastpace attacking style at madrid
every time getting the best out of his players

sorry, if fergusson could do that, then man utd would have 5 extra titles and 2 extra cl at least
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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Ferguson is great, props to him, whatever. But coaches at big clubs nowadays will never get the patience he got during his first few years at United. First 4 years without a trophy and the first league title came after 7 years.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/new...ex-chairman-Martin-Edwards-article825118.html
:agree: plus he just won 2 CL titles in 25 years, is that really impressive ?!!

His fans (well mostly EPL fans) will argue that he has an impressive record domestically but the premier league wasn't all that great for many many years perhaps untill Abramovich took over Chelsea and the league became for the first time a 3 horse race instead of two. Lippi managed to reach 3 CL finals back to back and won the league titles (serie A was by far the toughest league in the world) yet hardly anyone argue in his favor.

IMO winning the treble with a club that was known for its shit mentality like Inter after 50 years of not winning that title is nothing short of a miracle. Never been a fan of mourinho but the guy's record is really impressive.
 

ThirdStar

You know it's comin'
Jul 5, 2011
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Lippi's definitely better than SAF. Mou is probably the best.
Lippi is the best of the names you listed, and this is not the Juventino part of me talking.
First of all, a fucking WORLD CUP winner. 2nd, he reached the champions league final FOUR four 4 fucking times, but he was unlucky to only win it once.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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Ratios mean nothing, how about a ratio of how many times Mourinho failed to reach the champions league final? we were seriously unlucky in the finals.
He got 2 CLs in such a short time compared to Lippi and Ferguson. And his league title success is amazing--6 in 10 years. How can you say ratios mean nothing? And he's never had such bad seasons as the one with inter or that WC 2010 disaster. I love Lippi, but let's be real here.
 

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