Antonio Conte (27 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Just the same arguments and counter arguments and bias. Conte will end up at Milan once they get some money.

Did he say something about Milan recently? I did read that he was linked to Roma around the Azerbaijan game once the euros were done, but I'm guessing he's now being linked to Chelsea. That would make him travel the continent a bit more before he returned to Italy to coach anyone.
 

WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
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As a huge Conte fan i can see him piling those serie A titles at will, but i honestly don't see him going anywhere near the SF in europe. CL final is an achievement whichever way u see it, allegri took us there with conte's team while conte failed to take us there with conte's team.

If we replace allegri I'd like to take a step up and hire someone else, not conte.
 

Raz

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Nov 20, 2005
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with conte's team
What do you mean Conte's team? He wasn't able to go to the final and even perform in Europe with his own team, Allegri did perform in CL and won scudetto + coppa with the same team.

So what is the bigger achievement? Sure Allegri didn't build that team, but he did make them perform better then Conte ever did in Europe, and in the mean time he won everything with it domestically too (even more then Conte ever did).

And how about those questions that were questioning his own team everyday and downplaying them on every possible opportunity in europe?

And I'm not even a fan of allegris, but thanks conte for helping in building the team and bringing us back to being relevant and thank god you're gone too.

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Failing in Europe every year? Conte faced Bayern Munich who destroyed Barca 7-0 in 2013.

It was one year where a snowstorm sent us to EL (where we reached the semi)..

The same year Bonucci and Chiellini fucked up in the group stages match after match.
Snowstorm? :lol:

That was the reason we went out?

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So it's Bonucci and Chiellini who fucked up in group stages when Conte was in-charge and it's Allegri's fault when individuals don't step up this season too? You have to decide bro.

Conte literally gave up on the match vs Bayern before kick-off. That's a fact.
Allegri on the other hand even if everyone favored Barca in the Final was going into the final that the opponent he's facing are not superior and can be beaten.

Anyway, why are we even discussing this over and over again? Facts are there for a reason no?

Conte won three Scudetti, failed in Coppa (to some it's big deal to others it's not), failed in Europe (to some he didn't fail to others he failed, to himself as a coach he thought with 5 euros you can't dine in 5 stars rest)

Allegri came, won Scudetto (to some the team was Conte's to others Allegri's touch was there) (He reached CL final and with little bit of luck he could have won everything) + Coppa.

Now in his second season things are going bad, but lets wait until December at least no?
can't rep have to spread, but yeah, basically spot on :tup:

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When conte goes to milan, I'm gonna go celebrating.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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Conte could obviously get a bunch of misfits to die for the shirt and perform at a high level better than Allegri could. This poor start is of massive proportion. If it wasn't for last season Allegri would have been fired sometime ago.

But Conte also thought he couldnt do more with the same squad which Allegri showed that he could have. Conte could manage better with a poor squad but Allegri seems more capable with a complete squad. Allegri got screwed by Marotta and is failing to get the best out of his unbalanced squad.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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What do you mean Conte's team? He wasn't able to go to the final and even perform in Europe with his own team, Allegri did perform in CL and won scudetto + coppa with the same team.

So what is the bigger achievement? Sure Allegri didn't build that team, but he did make them perform better then Conte ever did in Europe, and in the mean time he won everything with it domestically too (even more then Conte ever did).

And how about those questions that were questioning his own team everyday and downplaying them on every possible opportunity in europe?

And I'm not even a fan of allegris, but thanks conte for helping in building the team and bringing us back to being relevant and thank god you're gone too.
agree. taking away from Allegris success last season is not really fair. the players were Contes (with the additions of Pereyra, Evra and Morata), but Allegri brought some changes that improved us greatly and made them a team that was close to a treble. he introduced a new system, moved Vidal higher up the pitch to create space for Marchisio (having Pereyra on the bench helped certainly) and it paid off. Marchisio was one of our best players last season, better than Vidal and Pirlo. he introduced Morata to the team successfully and created a great partnership between him and Carlitos. the team played more fluidly and were tactically as organized or even better organized than with Conte. saying Allegri won with Contes team is the same as saying Ancelotti won with Mourinhos team at Real, Mourinho won with Mancinis team at Inter or Del Bosque won with Aragones team at Spain etc. its every coaches job to take the group of players he has and try to win with it. Allegri did that and deserves full credit for it.

however, Allegri last season (in Serie A) had 2 things going for him. 1st is we handled small teams excellently and won whenever it was needed. whenever Roma was coming close(r) we won and kept the distance. 2nd is our motivation was up to the maximum. remember the talks in summer, Roma was favorites, they had a "great mercato", we lost our leader etc. the team wanted to prove everyone that they didnt win because of Conte exclusively and thats what carried us through that Serie A season. this season is the real test for Allegri as the team is good enough on paper to win the title but has has not as strong motivation as last season (CL being a different story). well see if hes up for the challenge, if he can motivate and organize the team to win games in series, especially now with his back to the wall.
 

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