Antonio Conte (139 Viewers)

[Azzurri7]

Allegri a better coach than Conte

You may disagree and surely favor one but I don't know what's laughable when the man was 15min away winning the treble.

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As for Allegri being a better coach and reading the situation better... I doubt Conte would have replaced a decent Lichtsteiner for isla when you are at home chasing the game against udinese...

I can easily start with Conte's substitution too but I wont, fact is, they both won the league (yes first season was all special) but Allegri carried the team better in Europe because the guy can read the game better IMHO. And my opinion isn't biased I can easily change my mind if Conte does good on an International level or with a different club.

 

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[Raz]

Good luck waiting for that to happen, I mean Conte doing good with another club. It's like bringing back Capello and hoping this time we will win all.

 

[Azzurri7]

Good luck waiting for that to happen, I mean Conte doing good with another club. It's like bringing back Capello and hoping this time we will win all.

I would have loved to see him coaching a club after Juve and not NT to see how he'll do with more budget at his disposal in Europe like he wanted before he resigned.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

only that Capello is the most over paid and out of date manager in circulation right now

 

[Raz]

only that Capello is the most over paid and out of date manager in circulation right now

Well funny you would say that. Because Conte is playing the most modern brilliant football and is not the most expensive international manager.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Well funny you would say that. Because Conte is playing the most modern brilliant football and is not the most expensive international manager.

more modern than capello's by far

 

[JCK]

It all goes back to Mazzari who created the 3-5-2 anyway.

 

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Yet allegri was quoted to have said this is not a transitional year. Even if it is and Allegri fails, Conte still had a far weaker team to work with to begin with and surpassed all expectations

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It's funny how people only look at Conte in the Cl for the defeats to Bayern, the ridiculous farse in Turkey and the Celtic game is dismissed for being too easy, yet they also forget the 2 matches against the cup holders chelsea

The horrible Chelsea that failed to progress from the group stage?

Stop trying so hard. It's pretty clear that both Allegri and Conte are good managers and each have their strengths and weaknesses. As does every single good manager on this planet.

Allegri is a better Cup manager, it's not even a debate at this point. His results prove it. Whereas Conte is certainly a better League manager. Could these things change? Sure. But debating the obvious is pretty silly right now.

 

[Emmet]

this, This and THIS!

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Imagine if allegri fails to win the league this season, I wonder then what opinions are of allegri comparative to Conte's achievements then

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As for Allegri being a better coach and reading the situation better... I doubt Conte would have replaced a decent Lichtsteiner for isla when you are at home chasing the game against udinese...

I couldn't care a less what Allegri does in the league, the league is immaterial now. What matters is what happens in Europe. That is where the club will make the extra money and attract more bandwagon fans which in turn earns more money.

 

[Osman]

I couldn't care a less what Allegri does in the league, the league is immaterial now. What matters is what happens in Europe. That is where the club will make the extra money and attract more bandwagon fans which in turn earns more money.

So you couldnt care less when we fail at what gives us the means to grow and becoming the top club we need to be, winning the league? How are you supposed to compete with the best in Europe if you cant even be that in your own little league? The notion of only caring for CL is what made Milan the retarded arrogant mess they been since they thought too short sighted for far too long.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I couldn't care a less what Allegri does in the league, the league is immaterial now. What matters is what happens in Europe. That is where the club will make the extra money and attract more bandwagon fans which in turn earns more money.

No offence but winning the league should be the minimal objective for a club like our own, but to write it off as if it is a worthless competition is retarded. I don't fucking want bandwagon fans at our club I guess that is about the only positive of calciopoli and the years following that

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The horrible Chelsea that failed to progress from the group stage?

Stop trying so hard. It's pretty clear that both Allegri and Conte are good managers and each have their strengths and weaknesses. As does every single good manager on this planet.

Allegri is a better Cup manager, it's not even a debate at this point. His results prove it. Whereas Conte is certainly a better League manager. Could these things change? Sure. But debating the obvious is pretty silly right now.

Still chelsea on paper were the favourites with a far better team at the time than ours, and we beat them with having the likes of Quaglia fucking rella upfront!

 

[Emmet]

You think winning a league that nobody gives a fuck about outside of Italy is vital to us? Juve winning the league every year does nothing but worsen it. None of my mates for example will watch the league because they say ''what's the point because Juve will win it anyway.'' I've read that time and again on the internet, nobody watches it because our domination has been so vast it's off-putting to the casual viewer.

Serie A has zero value, it does nothing for the value of the club either. If I had the choice between Juve making the SF of the CL and finish 2nd for the next two years or winning the league and getting to the R16 I would pick the former. By a mile. The CL is what brings back prestige to this club. This is what makes the club €€€€ and in the longer run enables us to buy star players.

Nobody really wants bandwagon fans but at the end of the day they bring in extra money which the club and Agnelli wants if we are to close the gap on the big four revenue wise.

 

[Osman]

I rather not be losers in TWO COMPETITIONS, just because it appeases whatever general appeal you deem important for us to be in the CL. Win the league, COMPETE in CL, thats how it should be, end of.

 

[Fake Melo]

It would be a failure of epic proportions if Juve fail to win the Scudetto this season. It would be beyond embarrassing. If we don't win the Scudetto, we must reach the CL semi finals. Otherwise Allegri's ass should be on the line.

 

[Emmet]

I rather not be losers in TWO COMPETITIONS, just because it appeases whatever general appeal you deem important for us to be in the CL. Win the league, COMPETE in CL, thats how it should be, end of.

Like I said, if it came down to winning the league and getting knocked out in the R16 or reaching the SF and finishing second I'd chose the latter. The CL is the importance now, and that's what Max will be judged on, not the league.

 

[JCK]

It would be a failure of epic proportions if Juve fail to win the Scudetto this season. It would be beyond embarrassing. If we don't win the Scudetto, we must reach the CL semi finals. Otherwise Allegri's ass should be on the line.

Because Allegri made the overhaul to the team?

 

[Nicholas]

Yeah Marotta would be the one at fault, not Allegri.

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You think winning a league that nobody gives a $#@! about outside of Italy is vital to us? Juve winning the league every year does nothing but worsen it. None of my mates for example will watch the league because they say ''what's the point because Juve will win it anyway.'' I've read that time and again on the internet, nobody watches it because our domination has been so vast it's off-putting to the casual viewer.

Serie A has zero value, it does nothing for the value of the club either. If I had the choice between Juve making the SF of the CL and finish 2nd for the next two years or winning the league and getting to the R16 I would pick the former. By a mile. The CL is what brings back prestige to this club. This is what makes the club €€€€ and in the longer run enables us to buy star players.

Nobody really wants bandwagon fans but at the end of the day they bring in extra money which the club and Agnelli wants if we are to close the gap on the big four revenue wise.

It's pointless watching La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, PL if that's their attitude.

 

[Osman]

Like I said, if it came down to winning the league and getting knocked out in the R16 or reaching the SF and finishing second I'd chose the latter. The CL is the importance now, and that's what Max will be judged on, not the league.

Rest assured, I as a Juventus fan, will defenitely be judging him if we fail in the league.

 

[Nicholas]

QL is the maximum I expect this season.

 

[Fake Melo]

Because Allegri made the overhaul to the team?

The current team is good enough to win the Scudetto.