Antonio Conte (99 Viewers)

[Juventino[RUS]]

annoying? not half as annoying as reading the cow shit comments. It's one thing criticising Conte when they are justified, but when reading things like he's not fit to coach in European competitions having only been manager 3 years, 2 of which were in European competitions is just fucking laughable. no two ways about that.

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benitez did worse than Conte in europe this season

Key word is "this"

 

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[Badass J Elkann]

Is not about how much time he has been in european matches...is his mentality towards it, the way he set up the team, the lack of flexibility, the weird subs he does and last but not least his poor excuses post game.

You cant ignore this.

He is just ebing stubborn

as i've already addressed, his lack of flexibility is not something of his own choice, external factors, club resources and finances have forced this on Conte. You honestly believe Conte is this stubborn? when time and time again we are reading in to how he wants quality to mount a charge in europe and also to allow tactical flexibility? is it no coincidence that we are linked with the likes of nani and Sanchez? you honestly think they will be brought in to play 3-5-2? because i sure as hell don't.

Poor excuses has nothing to do with success or defeat on the pitch, mourinho has had his fair share and alex ferguson too, hell even benitez comes out with some real bullshit soundbites in the media.

 

[zizinho]

Is not about how much time he has been in european matches...is his mentality towards it, the way he set up the team, the lack of flexibility, the weird subs he does and last but not least his poor excuses post game.

You cant ignore this.

He is just ebing stubborn

this is true tbh.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Contes 1st two seasons in Europe CL quarterfinal and EL semifinal.
Klopps first two seasons in Europe EL group stages and CL group stages.

Klopps 3rd season in Europe CL final
Contes 3rd season in Europe .....

funny you mention that, i wonder if dortmund fans were thinking klopp is stubborn and not fit to coach in europe after his first 2 seasons in european competition

 

[Vialli_92]

So it's Conte's fault that marotta can only sign players within a strict financial control which is limited compared to most of the other big clubs in Europe? Is it Conte's fault that because of this he is forced to play a 3-5-2? 3 FUCKING SEASONS IN CHARGE and people already writing him off as a manager??? OH FUCKING PLEASE!!!!!!!

Ogbonna, Isla, Asamoah That is 35 million euro + only one of those players plays regularly and thats out of position. Conte could have build a team for a 4-3-3 if he wanted to but he chose 3-5-2 instead. They are Conte's signings not Marotta's. Ogbonna was a stupid purchase it showed he had no intention of playing 4-3-3 this season.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Key word is "this"

yet benitez has yet to win a league title with any club

 

[TrezJuve]

funny you mention that, i wonder if dortmund fans were thinking klopp is stubborn and not fit to coach in europe after his first 2 seasons in european competition

They didn't have expectations at that point I guess, that club has grown a lot.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

yet benitez has yet to win a league title with any club

Valencia

 

[Vialli_92]

Contes 1st two seasons in Europe CL quarterfinal and EL semifinal.
Klopps first two seasons in Europe EL group stages and CL group stages.

Klopps 3rd season in Europe CL final
Contes 3rd season in Europe .....

Conte is not Klopp though, they are completely different managers. One manager is playing modern attacking football the other is playing stone age long ball defensive football without a counter attack

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Ogbonna, Isla, Asamoah That is 35 million euro + only one of those players plays regularly and thats out of position. Conte could have build a team for a 4-3-3 if he wanted to but he chose 3-5-2 instead. They are Conte's signings not Marotta's. Ogbonna was a stupid purchase it showed he had no intention of playing 4-3-3 this season.

we needed another defender this season, I'm not a fan of ogbonna but having had to play marrone in defence in the past wasn't going to cut it, another defender was a necessity. Marotta was the one who was a little foolish in paying over the odds for ogbonna imo, but thats another matter.

Isla and Asamoah were excellent signings at the time, unfortunately isla hasn't worked out as well as asamoah has. but any how as i said before you don't go to war without building an empire. like it or not we are still building

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Valencia

one league title in how many years?

Conte is about to win 3 in 3. and you of all people should know that winning the league is harder than winning in europe.

 

[Vialli_92]

we needed another defender this season, I'm not a fan of ogbonna but having had to play marrone in defence in the past wasn't going to cut it, another defender was a necessity. Marotta was the one who was a little foolish in paying over the odds for ogbonna imo, but thats another matter.

Isla and Asamoah were excellent signings at the time, unfortunately isla hasn't worked out as well as asamoah has. but any how as i said before you don't go to war without building an empire. like it or not we are still building

But if he wanted to play 4-3-3 we didn't need Ogbonna then because we already had 3 centre backs to rotate for 2 positions, 4 if u include Caceres in that as he regularly plays CB for us.

Conte never wanted to play 4-3-3 this season that is the point i'm trying to make.

 

[Vlad]

Conte never wanted to play 4-3-3 this season that is the point i'm trying to make.

I tend to agree with that. This teams has been built for 3-5-2 over the last two years. Love the guy, but he shouldn't be immune to criticism.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

They didn't have expectations at that point I guess, that club has grown a lot.

Do you think the Juve board demanded Conte to win the CL in his first season or even this season too? the expectations demanded by some here are beyond unrealistic

 

[Vialli_92]

I tend to agree with that. This teams has been built for 3-5-2 over the last two years.

If u also add Tevez to the list who perfectly fits into a 3-5-2 then it's so clear he thought 3-5-2 was the way forward when everyone on this forum knew it wasn't after getting raped by Bayern so badly.

 

[Vlad]

If u also add Tevez to the list who perfectly fits into a 3-5-2 then it's so clear he thought 3-5-2 was the way forward when everyone on this forum knew it wasn't after getting raped by Bayern so badly.

That is funny.

Maybe we should step in.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

yet benitez has yet to win a league title with any club

Valencia

one league title in how many years?

Conte is about to win 3 in 3. and you of all people should know that winning the league is harder than winning in europe.

OMG

So why don't we sacrifice winning the league for a tournament we're dying to win, that is way more prestigious and would help our finances exponentially more than a Scudetto?

 

[Badass J Elkann]

But if he wanted to play 4-3-3 we didn't need Ogbonna then because we already had 3 centre backs to rotate for 2 positions, 4 if u include Caceres in that as he regularly plays CB for us.

Conte never wanted to play 4-3-3 this season that is the point i'm trying to make.

that is untrue, we needed another centre back to maintain the option of the 3-5-2, but our inabilities to sign a winger last summer forced Conte into the 3-5-2 being his only option. I'm confident to believe that this summer will be about adding players of quality and tactical flexibility.

 

[Vialli_92]

that is untrue, we needed another centre back to maintain the option of the 3-5-2, but our inabilities to sign a winger last summer forced Conte into the 3-5-2 being his only option. I'm confident to believe that this summer will be about adding players of quality and tactical flexibility.

There is no evidence he ever wanted to play 4-3-3 this season, i dont see any arguments that can back that up so i think u are very naive for believing that as all the signings point towards a 3-5-2 formation was his clear priority.

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That is funny.

Maybe we should step in.

Haha if only we could

 

[TrezJuve]

Do you think the Juve board demanded Conte to win the CL in his first season or even this season too? the expectations demanded by some here are beyond unrealistic

Lol, no.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

There is no evidence he ever wanted to play 4-3-3 this season, i dont see any arguments that can back that up so i think u are very naive for believing that as all the signings point towards a 3-5-2 formation was his clear priority.

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Haha if only we could

we loaned out marrone who was largely used as a CB, so because of this he needed another CB to maintain the 3-5-2 game plan. We were linked with a host of wingers last summer (especially nani) unfortunately it didn't take priority over strengthening the 3-5-2 plan. As i've explained before the management have had a year to plan their market moves for the summer and indications show that a winger is a priority, that already tells me that Conte needs an alternative to the 3-5-2.