Antonio Conte (101 Viewers)

[Jem83]

We saw from the training vids, and by reading the training reports, and by witnessing the first half, that Conte had done well to prepare for this match. I totally agree with him that up until 65 minutes we were totally in control of this match. Stats on possession, shots and tackles etc. also testify to this. There were player fuck-ups out there, for sure. You can only do so much in preparing for a match. The rest, the players have to take care of. They didn't.

We also created 3 clear-cut chances to put the game to bed in the 2nd half before the collapse happened.

 

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[gagych]

Speaking after the game in Florence, Conte said:
“We lost a game that we dominated for 70 minutes, we were home and dry and had more than one opportunity to score the third goal. Suddenly something strange happened, if I could explain why it would be simple.

“But that’s football, we hope this afternoon serves as experience and we’ll keep working and looking to move forward. I don’t think our focus was already on Real Madrid, otherwise we would have got our overall approach wrong.”

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

We saw from the training vids, and by reading the training reports, and by witnessing the first half, that Conte had done well to prepare for this match. I totally agree with him that up until 65 minutes we were totally in control of this match. Stats on possession, shots and tackles etc. also testify to this. There were player fuck-ups out there, for sure. You can only do so much in preparing for a match. The rest, the players have to take care of. They didn't.

Why are so many players failing to perform at their capacities at the same time?

 

[.zero]

People seem to be too complacent and forget how blessed we are to have a coach like Conte.

Need I remind you the list of coaches after Capello left in 06?

 

[Bianconero81]

Deschamps wasn't half bad. Ranieri was ok during the rebuilding phase.

After that, it was a complete disaster. Del Neri, Ferrara, and Zach. OMFG!

 

[Hængebøffer]

Conte deserves the criticism, but sacking him would be retarded.

 

[ZoSo]

We saw from the training vids, and by reading the training reports, and by witnessing the first half, that Conte had done well to prepare for this match. I totally agree with him that up until 65 minutes we were totally in control of this match. Stats on possession, shots and tackles etc. also testify to this. There were player fuck-ups out there, for sure. You can only do so much in preparing for a match. The rest, the players have to take care of. They didn't.

We also created 3 clear-cut chances to put the game to bed in the 2nd half before the collapse happened.

there is a difference between tactics and mentality, he is obviously not instilling the right attitude. you're in lala land if you think the attitude comes from somewhere else other than the coach.

 

[Nzoric]

Conte deserves the criticism, but sacking him would be retarded.

He deserves some of the criticism, some of the criticism is definitely reserved for players who are doing absolutely inexplicable things during the games - like, you know, Buffon.

 

[Jem83]

Why are so many players failing to perform at their capacities at the same time?

Usually that doesn't happen, but it can. What sucks for us is that it did. Had we seen signs of that from the beginning of the match, we would've been forced to question Conte's preparation for this match, but what we saw was a Juventus that dominated and went in 2-0 up at the interval, and came out guns blazing and should've put the game to bed with 2-3 clear-cut chances (Marchisio 1 on 1 with the goalkeeper, Chiellini's free header etc.).

In a team, the coach carries the largest part of the responsibility, I agree with that, but the players are reponsible for the remainder. I didn't see anything that suggested that Conte got his tactics wrong or anything of the sorts, I saw a bunch of players who did what was asked of them for 80 minutes, but who for some reason ran around like headless chickens for 10 awful minutes that cost us the match.

 

[.zero]

Deschamps wasn't half bad. Ranieri was ok during the rebuilding phase.

After that, it was a complete disaster. Del Neri, Ferrara, and Zach. OMFG!

DD was the only one who had hope and promise and we all know what the board did with that opportunity.

Everyone else was FAIL so let's not even try to debate that Ranieri or anyone else was worth a damn. Let's not joke ourselves.

Conte has surpassed all expectations and just because his team is off to an undesirably slow start doesn't mean that his job should be on the line. It is his responsibility to get his players motivated but the players have to not get complacent as well. They are grown men and professionals.

If anyone is that critical of Conte that his job is on the line then their expectations are out of whack. Name one coach that has won all their games and every trophy possible every season. Losses are part of building a character. Sometimes the champs need to suffer defeats to rekindle that fire that got them to their throne.

 

[Salvatore]

Most of them, bar Vidal. We have been used to seeing a Godlike Barzagli, a great Marchisio, a revitalized Pirlo (who looked finished under Allegri), a Lichtsteiner who has performed like a Zambrotta and a young player like Pogba (who was discarded by Man United) turn into something that resembles a top player. The list goes on. Many players have performed to the max (and beyond) of their potential under Conte. Now, I'm not saying those aren't good or very good players, but I believe Conte has played a huge part in bringing about their true potential, or in Pirlo's case, rediscover it.

I don't know, can you call Barzagli overrated for performing so well for so long in all competitions? I think he's the one defender that has maintained dignity in this spell. I could go through the others you named and say I think it's a harsh label. This team have shown in most matches the sort of dominance that made them consecutive Serie A champions, it's that 10-20% that shames them into either pulling back to win a game (both Verona games + Milan) or damaging the final result (Galatasaray, Fiorentina). I can't question their ability over that. Conte describes it pretty similarly in his post match comments.

“Then something strange and unthinkable happened. We lost a match that we had been dominating.

“How do we explain it? An explanation would be easy! In 10 minutes we destroyed all the hard work, both during and before the game. We managed to allow Fiorentina back into it and concede odd goals.

I agree completely that Conte is making them perform to their best, but that's what good coaches like Lippi and Ferguson do, time to recognise we'd not have this discussion without Conte.

For what it's worth, I think you've failed to name the biggest culprit (Buffon), which is painful to admit but 2013 has been a really damaging year for him.

 

[JCK]

It's so silly to ask that he should be sacked but Conte should realize that the team has been under performing and that the results won't continue to come as easy. He needs to do the proper adjustments and above all he needs to stop reminding everyone how hard this season will be.

 

[Jem83]

Especially Barzagli, is very difficult to label overrated. So good point there, since he's been so damn consistent. But he has been playing the best football of his career under Conte, though, and this is what I was aiming at. I think we are in full agreement, Salvatore.

 

[Hængebøffer]

He deserves some of the criticism, some of the criticism is definitely reserved for players who are doing absolutely inexplicable things during the games - like, you know, Buffon.

Our problem is the team and not individual players. When did we see this again? - oh yeah, it was pre Conte.

 

[Vlad]

He deserves some of the criticism, some of the criticism is definitely reserved for players who are doing absolutely inexplicable things during the games - like, you know, Buffon.

You don't like him much, do you?

 

[Nzoric]

Our problem is the team and not individual players. When did we see this again? - oh yeah, it was pre Conte.

The team is to blame for the four howlers Buffon has made, definitely. Just like the team is at fault when a striker cant hit an open net.

 

[Tevez10]

ah yes don't tell me we can play a 4-3-3 because we are all experts on football manager and fifa when in reality it doesn't work like that

 

[Salvatore]

he can't tell them to wake the fuck up?

Do you think he isn't telling them to maintain control? This is the XI that got him here, it will obviously take time for him to lose faith in players.

you're speaking about the players like they are drug addicts that can't be helped.

What could Conte say to prevent Bonucci assisting Drogba or the entire team falling asleep for Galatasaray's second goal? Or Buffon passing the ball to a Hellas player in Juve's defensive third etc. These players aren't helping themselves, I'm not there in training so I don't know if they're arrogant about their chances.

The shape of the team and the way they perform isn't that dissimilar to the previous two seasons, it's that everyone is so tender on here it and it escalates way too much.

Perhaps he isn't as motivated as he was, and the players aren't as responsive. I don't know. I am just throwing shit out there and seeing if it sticks

I feel that Conte will eventually leave, whether it be in a year or 5, but I don't think he is gonna stay here for 20 years a la Alex Ferguson.

I think everything he's said has indicated he'll leave on his own terms eventually, not convinced for the long term either.

 

[Hist]

The problem is clearly becoming mental. The team cant concentrate for 90 minutes anymore and it seems our reaction to conceding from blunders is one of collapse and frustration rather than motivation.

Once again we play a good match and then throw it away. Conte must become more punitive with the players that fall asleep. He is avoiding benching buffon because he doesnt want a casillas saga to start.

 

[Ocelot]

Either he's gonna kick enough ass that half the players land in hospital and the other half wins the scudetto, or he's leaving after this season.

I have no idea to what extent he is responsible for the absyminal performances the last few games, so I'm not going to commment on that, but if this trend continues, he'll be gone soon.