Angelo Palombo - CM - Sampdoria (6 Viewers)

[Bianconero81]

Canna, Thuram, Nedved, and Buffon were quality when we bought them. They were the finished article. Palombo is a mediocre player who will not get any better given his age. Hence, I don't see the sense in making a move for him, particularly when we have far superior players in Marchisio, Melo, and Sissoko.

 

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[Osman]

Yes, and the reason you wouldnt want to get him is because of his quality, or lack of, then his age, even if its a factor too. Was just saying one shouldnt fret over age too much, even if its better to make long term signings.

I like the fact our team has decent amount of youngish middle twenties players that can be our core, if we use them well. Chiellini, Momo, Marchisio, Gio, Melo, hopefully soon Criscito and perhaps you can add Caceres too if you like. Make up half of the starting lineup (not that they all start, the 3 DMs mainly)

No I dont count De Ceglie in this list...

 

[Suns]

I'd rather give Melo another chance than signing this guy.

 

[Osman]

Well that oughta be frigging obvious. Melo is clearly and undoubtly the superior player, despite being an utterly boneheaded buffoon.

 

[Bjerknes]

You fail to see the difference of a 4-4-2 and 4-3-1-2 CUG, besides the latter being in a completely dysfunctional form, its also one that didnt suit Momo and required more from hm as it was based around possession footie and him being more offensive. But 4-4-2 DM he is totally natural for, and he was a beast in under Ranieri, litterally fell apart without him when he got injured late years season (it was clear he was masking the teams and Ranieri's fragile state), wasnt no coincidence we started leaking like HELL then. Plus even if passing isnt his forte, he kept it simple and basic then, and didnt make miss passes nearly to the degree he did this season under Zaccheroni (I cant say Ciro as much, because he was injured all the time).

Basically as one of the 2 CMs/DMs Momo > Melo, Poulsen, and yes frigging Candreva too.

So we are essentially trying to base our team around our WORST ball handler.

Talk about absolute retardation and absurdity.

Sometimes this forum reminds me of Congress. The biggest problems are ignored and brushed aside.

 

[Osman]

Base our team around him? Yes you not one to jump to conclusions at all.

 

[Juve Libnan]

him and pazzini will definitely not be coming if samp qualify for the cl and i hope they do

palombo is good but we have melo

and i think gila would be better than pazzini bcuz he is a bianconero

 

[Red]

I can't see Samp/Juve basing a summer transfer campaign on whether Samp make it to the group stage.

There will be roughly one week of the transfer window remaining when Samp will know if they have qualified, which just isn't long enough to completely change your plans if things don't work out how you want them to.

 

[The Curr]

I can't see Samp/Juve basing a summer transfer campaign on whether Samp make it to the group stage.

There will be roughly one week of the transfer window remaining when Samp will know if they have qualified, which just isn't long enough to completely change your plans if things don't work out how you want them to.

Garrone has said a couple of times that they won't sign anyone until after the CL qualifier. I know that seems ridiculous but there you go.

 

[Red]

Sounds like madness to me.

 

[The Curr]

This is the most recent quote.

“The team will not be weakened. I have asked our new directors for two plans of action, although I know full well we’ll only have one week to switch before the end of the transfer market if we qualify for the Champions League.”

 

[The Curr]

Here's the original one.

"Until we are certain to enter the group stage of the Champions League, we cannot complete the squad, there will be neither incomings nor outgoings,” Garrone told a press conference.

 

[el Manco]

him and pazzini will definitely not be coming if samp qualify for the cl and i hope they do

palombo is good but we have melo

and i think gila would be better than pazzini bcuz he is a bianconero

We don't need Gila or Pazzini. We have Amauri.

 

[Bjerknes]

Base our team around him? Yes you not one to jump to conclusions at all.

That's essentially what you were saying. We have to use the straight 4-4-2 just so we can field Sissoko.

 

[Osman]

No it wasnt, stop acting daft. We WILL use 4-4-2 (or 4-2-3-1 or 4-5-1, either way fundementally similar) because our coach is Del Neri. We WONT be using that formation because of Momo. He is available for whatever formation, but I explained the obvious difference of 4-3-1-2 that requires more possession style footie, especially one played by a very flawed team, to 4-4-2 where he has shown himself to be most fit for.


But apparently, pointing out the obvious is the same as saying the team should be based around him?

 

[Bjerknes]

Didn't Del Neri himself say that he's open to other formations? Lets hope so because the straight 4-4-2 with Momo and average wingers sucks a lot of monkey balls.

Even in the straight 4-4-2 Momo gave the ball away pretty repeatedly, so hooray for us. Why we would want to return to the same setup that is anything but inspiring is beyond me, but you're right, it will probably happen.

Then when we play like shit for another year, don't complain.

 

[Osman]

Del Neri said so yes, but besides being the usual thing to say, the formations he mentionned is the kind that still uses DMs either way. But most importantly, Del Neri should make a functional and organized side that each player can be used for his best qualities. Ferrara was a airhead who had no idea, and Zaccheroni, I dont even want to talk about, it should be quite different when players dont have to be very exposed like this past season.

Its not the formation that makes it shitty, but the quality of the players and how the coach goes about things.

And you may like to recall the missed passses, but I distinctively remember Momo having big influence and dominating midfields singehandledly in top games after another, and that last year around February when he got injured, our team fell apart utterly and our defence was exposed and we started on a 2 months streak without winning, THAT wasnt a coincidence. You may like to just remember the passes and think thats his only influence for some reason, but I remember everything else.

 

[Bjerknes]

Del Neri said so yes, but besides being the usual thing to say, the formations he mentionned is the kind that still uses DMs either way. But most importantly, Del Neri should make a functional and organized side that each player can be used for his best qualities. Ferrara was a airhead who had no idea, and Zaccheroni, I dont even want to talk about, it should be quite different when players dont have to be very exposed like this past season.

Its not the formation that makes it shitty, but the quality of the players and how the coach goes about things.

And you may like to recall the missed passses, but I distinctively remember Momo having big influence and dominating midfields singehandledly in top games after another, and that last year around February when he got injured, our team fell apart utterly and our defence was exposed and we started on a 2 months streak without winning, THAT wasnt a coincidence. You may like to just remember the passes and think thats his only influence for some reason, but I remember everything else.

Come on, the straight 4-4-2 is pretty shitty, Oz. Unless you have a Ronaldo on the flanks and a couple solid players centrally in midfield both offensively and defensively, it's going to be pretty bland. Straight 4-4-2 requires inventive wingers and pace to succeed, that is what it is built for. We have neither of the two, and even if we did get sick wingers, we still would not play with pace.

And to the contrary, I do remember the Sissoko performances in which he dominated the midfield defensively. But even with Sissoko on top of his game, we still conceded goals. And then after we conceded, we had trouble creating anything. Why? Because of Sissoko and the inability of the team to do anything meaningful going forward.

Is it really being anti-Sissoko to point out of the obvious and wish that we improve upon the worst area of our game?

Then throw in the fact that Ranieri, the original Sissoko gatekeeper, is no longer with us, and you begin to understand that little is certain regarding the player.

 

[Hust]

Sissoko is great defensively and has moment of brilliance winning the ball back....after that he has to distribute the ball in which he often ruins and good work he did up to that point by giving it away again. There are plenty of players we could sign or already have that can put in the same hardworking effort and not lose the ball right after winning it back.

Let's be honest, aside from his ninja tackles that's all he has. He can't pass, create, score, be inventive, work off the ball intelligently...he just runs, tackles, runs, tackles. Love the guy to death but we need someone that gives us more than the occasional good tackle and less fouls that could potentially hurt us.

 

[Bjerknes]

No doubt about that.