Angelo Ogbonna - CB - Torino (17 Viewers)

[Lion]

We have one of the best defend lines in the world, and yet people are not happy with it, I wonder... So why we can't sign another defender for 4-5 millions? Instead of spending money on another top forward we are signing not needed defender for 14 millions...$#@! me

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You don't understand that long term investment will not make a progress in his game while you will use him as bench player only

ok which top foward can we sign for 4-5 million?

he;s not going to be a bench player forever. barzagli is not going to keep this level up .

also explain how you are againt this but want us to sign another top line forward? the same problem is goint to be him competeing with tevez and lloente. which means one of those 3 fowards will sit on bench.

 

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[Linebreak]

We have one of the best defend lines in the world, and yet people are not happy with it, I wonder... So why we can't sign another defender for 4-5 millions? Instead of spending money on another top forward we are signing not needed defender for 14 millions...$#@! me

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You don't understand that long term investment will not make a progress in his game while you will use him as bench player only

You're right - why take the opportunity to sign potentially the next big thing in Italian CB's now?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

ok which top foward can we sign for 4-5 million?

he;s not going to be a bench player forever. barzagli is not going to keep this level up .

also explain how you are againt this but want us to sign another top line forward? the same problem is goint to be him competeing with tevez and lloente. which means one of those 3 fowards will sit on bench.

Quag and Matri should be transferred, they are done, we can't start the season with 6 forwards

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You're right - why take the opportunity to sign potentially the next big thing in Italian CB's now?

Next big thing? He is 25 years old lol and had pretty average season in Torino

 

[Lion]

barzagli was 29 when he got here. he had his best season at age of 30...

cannavaro had his best years atthe age of 31 and 32

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

barzagli was 29 when he got here. he had his best season at age of 30...

cannavaro had his best years atthe age of 31 and 32

So? Let's bench ogbonna before He will turn to 30?

 

[Lion]

Quag and Matri should be transferred, they are done, we can't start the season with 6 forwards

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quag and matri are good fourth choice bench players.....just like caceres and peluso.


you are the one wh wants us to spend 30 million on a bench player

 

[TrezJuve]

We have one of the best defend lines in the world, and yet people are not happy with it, I wonder... So why we can't sign another defender for 4-5 millions? Instead of spending money on another top forward we are signing not needed defender for 14 millions...fuck me

As some said, what would happen if one of those defenders is suspended or injured, would you not prefer a good alternative? Only thing I agree with you is that, for maybe 1 or 2 years, until Barzagli show signs of regression, his growth as a player will stagnate. He surely won't play more than a handful number of games.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

quag and matri are good fourth choice bench players.....just like caceres and peluso.


you are the one wh wants us to spend 30 million on a bench player

Lol I see that you know nothing about complete football squad

 

[Linebreak]

Listen guys - RUS is right - he always is.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

As some said, what would happen if one of those defenders is suspended or injured, would you not prefer a good alternative? Only thing I agree with you is that, for maybe 1 or 2 years, until Barzagli show signs of regression, his growth as a player will stagnate. He surely won't play more than a handful number of games.

We already have players to replace our main 3man defense with, why you can't understand it, why the hell you think that ogbonna could cover Barzagli better than 10000 time more experienced caceres?!

 

[the jesus]

So? Let's bench ogbonna before He will turn to 30?

This is really mindboggling.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

This is really mindboggling.

There is only one RUS.

 

[TrezJuve]

We already have players to replace our main 3man defense with, why you can't understand it, why the hell you think that ogbonna could cover Barzagli better than 10000 time more experienced caceres?!

I like Caceres, but I fear he's our only 'to go' guy. I don't know how good Ogbonna is, but if he's worth the hype, we'd have a really good alternative. More than that, we'd also have a good prospect in our hands.

 

[Lion]

this is what you posted:

Next big thing? He is 25 years old lol and had pretty average season in Torino

what you implied is that he is a 25 year old who is not going to get better with time and not a promising youngster.

to which i replied with:

barzagli was 29 when he got here. he had his best season at age of 30...

cannavaro had his best years atthe age of 31 and 32

proving that defenders can have great seasons at later stages in their life, even after have bad seasons before hand. to which you posted:

So? Let's bench ogbonna before He will turn to 30?

which proves that trying to actually have a discussion with you is pointless because you dont actually admit when you are wrong.

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Lol I see that you know nothing about complete football squad

i suppose you are right mr. montero never got a red card ever

 

[Linebreak]

this is what you posted:


what you implied is that he is a 25 year old who is not going to get better with time and not a promising youngster.

to which i replied with:



proving that defenders can have great seasons at later stages in their life, even after have bad seasons before hand. to which you posted:



which proves that trying to actually have a discussion with you is pointless because you dont actually admit when you are wrong.

It's not that - it's something to do with mental capacity to have a discussion.

 

[AOD4]

I like Caceres, but I fear he's our only 'to go' guy. I don't know how good Ogbonna is, but if he's worth the hype, we'd have a really good alternative. More than that, we'd also have a good prospect in our hands.

Im in the same position, never seen enough of Ogbonna to judge him. I am fickled with this defender as he doesnt get into the NT and being displaced by Astori is something to be concern.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

352
Subs:
De Ceglie,Peluso,Padoin,Giaccherini for LWB
Peluso, Caceres, Marrone for LCB, CB, RCB
Pepe, Caceres, Padoin for RWB

4321
subs:
De Ceglie, Peluso, Caceres for LB
Peluso, Caceres for LCB
Bonucci, Caceres for RCB
Caceres for RB

 

[ZoSo]

Arguing with RUS

 

[Khunglongkhelua]

this is what you posted:


what you implied is that he is a 25 year old who is not going to get better with time and not a promising youngster.

to which i replied with:



proving that defenders can have great seasons at later stages in their life, even after have bad seasons before hand. to which you posted:



which proves that trying to actually have a discussion with you is pointless because you dont actually admit when you are wrong.

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i suppose you are right mr. montero never got a red card ever

Let it go. Rus is beyond retard and anyone knows it. Not worth having a discussion with him

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

this is what you posted:


what you implied is that he is a 25 year old who is not going to get better with time and not a promising youngster.

to which i replied with:



proving that defenders can have great seasons at later stages in their life, even after have bad seasons before hand. to which you posted:



which proves that trying to actually have a discussion with you is pointless because you dont actually admit when you are wrong.

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i suppose you are right mr. montero never got a red card ever

25 years old Ogbonna is the young prodigy he wont get better if he will sit at the bench in Juve, he already lost his spot in National Team and he wont be called up from our bench definitely, so we are buying pig in a poke for 14 millions, now we should sit and wait will he become great defender at the age of 29 or not