Angelo Ogbonna - CB - Torino (29 Viewers)

[Juventino[RUS]]

Sigh.

Okay RUS, whatever you say.

Should i remind that we signed Peluso to replace Lucio? so Conte is in love with idea to complete the squad with the players that could cover 2-3 position on the field - Padoin, Pepe, Giac, Peluso, Caceres, Giovinco, Vucinic, Vidal, Asamoah - while in Ogbonna's face we are gaining another Peluso - the guy who can replace Chiellini and can be used as LB/LWB, while we arleady have Peluso, Asamoah, DC and even Chiellini for it! 12 fucking milions plus Immobile! Maybe we should offload DC, Isla, Quag and Matri and sign Jovetic finally for 30m? or Give 15m+ Quag/Matri/Storati to Fio?

 

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[Jim_Boi]

Sigh.

Okay RUS, whatever you say.

I find it funny that he is the only one against investing in quality depth

Should i remind that we signed Peluso to replace Lucio? so Conte is in love with idea to complete the squad with the players that could cover 2-3 position on the field - Padoin, Pepe, Giac, Peluso, Caceres, Giovinco, Vucinic, Vidal - while in Ogbonna's face we are gaining another Peluso - the guy who can replace Chiellini and can be used as LB/LWB, while we arleady have Peluso, Asamoah, DC and even Chiellini for it! 12 fucking milions plus immobile! Maybe we should offload DC, Isla, Quag and Matri and sign Jovetic finally for 30m? or Give 15m+ Quag/Matri/Storati to Fio?

We bought Peluso as an emergency option, you can't get quality players during the winter market unless you are willing to spend a lot.

 

[CalcioJuventus]

I love that people are not reading my posts and keep telling me about possible injuries that our defenders could receive should i repeat my posts about Peluso, Caceres being able to replace our main 3man defence if some of them will be injured? should i repeat that we could sign/loan/buy 50% of any much cheaper defenders for the sub role? Gastaldello, Paletta etc.? Why the $#@! you are not reading my posts properly, i don't understand?? maybe i should use 7 size for my posts just for you? As for other teams:
Central defenders:
Bayern - Boateng, Badstuber, Van Buyten, Dante
Borussia - Hummels, Subotic, Santana
MU - Vidic, Ferdinand, Evans, Smalling
MC - Nastasic, Kompany, Lescott

ye all these team have atleast 7 central defenders..........

Juventus - Chiellini, Barzagli, Peluso, Bonucci, Caceres plus Marrone if he will stay - not enough, let's spend another 15 millons on the bench player when we have limited budget

To be honest I dont read most of your posts. But considering we play 3 CB we should have at least 2 backups. Caceras is a fullback and we only play him as a CB cuz we dont have enough CB's after we let Lucio go.. hence the need for Ogbonna. Peluso is a Leftback.. and not even really a great LB to be honest so I dont think anyone wants him to be a starter at CB. .. all the guys you are listing are not CB's they are guys we used at CB due to our emergency situation of having no back up CBs so by listing them all you are in fact proving why we need a top quality CB.

Also in your random list of players you forgot Phil Jones at Man United who they paid 16 million pounds for so they have 5 guys fighting for 2 CB spots while we have 3 CB spots to be filled. Manchester is also in the process of signing Garay (who is also a CB if you dont know him)

City also had Kolo Toure last year and Micha Richards at CB and are looking at Pepe from Madrid as a signing this year cuz Toure left.

Bayern also have just signed Kirchhoff at CB to go with the others they have and Javi Martinez who plays DM or CB and they paid about 40 million Euro of him.

Anyway if you are going to make random lists to prove a point make sure u make accurate lists and not just sketchy incomplete lists to prove a point.
Also, why are u so argumentative?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

I find it funny that he is the only one against investing in quality depth

We bought Peluso as an emergency option, you can't get quality players during the winter market unless you are willing to spend a lot.

Signing Graqvist or any other good skilled experienced defender of Serie A is not "investing in quality" ye you right

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To be honest I dont read most of your posts. But considering we play 3 CB we should have at least 2 backups. Caceras is a fullback and we only play him as a CB cuz we dont have enough CB's after we let Lucio go.. hence the need for Ogbonna. Peluso is a Leftback.. and not even really a great LB to be honest so I dont think anyone wants him to be a starter at CB. .. all the guys you are listing are not CB's they are guys we used at CB due to our emergency situation of having no back up CBs so by listing them all you are in fact proving why we need a top quality CB.

Also in your random list of players you forgot Phil Jones at Man United who they paid 16 million pounds for so they have 5 guys fighting for CB spots while we have 3 CB spots to be filled. Manchester is also in the process of signing Garay (who is also a CB if you dont know him)

City also had Kolo Toure last year and Micha Richards at CB and are looking at Pepe from Madrid as a signing this year cuz Toure left.

Bayern also have just signed Kirchhoff at CB to go with the others they have and Javi Martinez who plays DM or CB and they paid about 40 million Euro of him.

Anyway if you are going to make random lists to prove a point make sure u make accurate lists and not just sketchy incomplete lists to prove a point.
Also, why are u so argumentative?

then stop talking to me, i'm not going to read ur posts anymore, how can you discuss anything with the other person if you don't even know his whole point? you can't be that stupid

 

[CalcioJuventus]

Signing Graqvist or any other good skilled experienced defender of Serie A is not "investing in quality" ye you right

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then stop talking to me, i'm not going to read ur posts anymore, how can you discuss anything with the other person if you don't even know his whole point? you can't be that stupid

It was nothing personal, I just dont get on the forum as much as I would like and you have written 15 177 posts.. so i have not had a chance to read them all yet

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

It was nothing personal, I just dont get on the forum as much as I would like and you have written 15 177 posts.. so i have not had a chance to read them all yet

lol
tip: you can use search and it will show you my all posts from this thread.

 

[CalcioJuventus]

Cool, thanks.

 

[Nenz]

They don't understand that we have a treasure like Caceres, they are crazy

You being serial?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

You being serial?

Name me other defender which can cover all positions in the defense - Lwb, lb, lcb, Sw, rcb, RB, rwb

 

[Nenz]

12M on its own might be understandable but adding half of Immobile to that sounds like overreaching to me. Marotta saves all this money on the bargain purchases of our best players and overspends on our second tier types only to lose out on their sale a season or two down the road. Funny.

 

[ZoSo]

we've never made mistakes with selling players or something? it's not about starting place, we had our 50% and while genoa sold their 50% to Torino so he we had a chance to buyout him in 1-2 seasons if he could develop into superstriker now we can't do it, you've missing my whole point, oh and yes i agree with the idea of selling quag + matri and rebuying Immobile right now

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easily, not only acerbi, Gastaldello, Paletta etc., we can loan any of them or sign for the much cheaper price without losing Immobile, and it's 10 time better idea than Ogbonna

Do you understand that he won't make any progress while he will be sitting on the bench?

Oh
http://www.calciomercato.com/english-news/ogbonna-never-to-juve-318294
Ogbonna: 'Never to Juve’
“My dream is to play for a big club but I will not become a Bianconero,” said the defender. “In my career I will never be a Juventus player.”
Gtfo

Oh, so you are really comparing 19 years old Pogba and his free transfer with 25 years old Ogbonna and his 15 million deal ? And the Darwin award goes to... LiON

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Pogba has played 37 games in the last season

I love that people are not reading my posts and keep telling me about possible injuries that our defenders could receive should i repeat my posts about Peluso, Caceres being able to replace our main 3man defence if some of them will be injured? should i repeat that we could sign/loan/buy 50% of any much cheaper defenders for the sub role? Gastaldello, Paletta etc.? Why the fuck you are not reading my posts properly, i don't understand?? maybe i should use 7 size for my posts just for you? As for other teams:
Central defenders:
Bayern - Boateng, Badstuber, Van Buyten, Dante
Borussia - Hummels, Subotic, Santana
MU - Vidic, Ferdinand, Evans, Smalling
MC - Nastasic, Kompany, Lescott

ye all these team have atleast 7 central defenders..........

Juventus - Chiellini, Barzagli, Peluso, Bonucci, Caceres plus Marrone if he will stay - not enough, let's spend another 15 millons on the bench player when we have limited budget

LOL Show me where did i said something about "promising" ?! Experienced serie a defenders for the good price, 10 time better idea than Ogbonna for 11-12 + Immobile

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case closed, so Chiellini is fullback too then


Ye Parma and Sampdoria never played with 3man defence......

Conte said that Marrone has bright future at the CB position, so you better believe to Conte, while Peluso can easily play as LCB/LB, like Chiellini, he was doing it for a long time in Atalanta. We don't need a backup for 15 millions, why your empty head can't understand my point?

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As for sub role? easily, especially Granqvist is very good

Man City has played with 3 man defence, even Barcelona did

Peluso last season - LB 11 games average rating 6.97, LCB 7 games average rating 7.58
means nothing, he is lb

Should i remind that we signed Peluso to replace Lucio? so Conte is in love with idea to complete the squad with the players that could cover 2-3 position on the field - Padoin, Pepe, Giac, Peluso, Caceres, Giovinco, Vucinic, Vidal, Asamoah - while in Ogbonna's face we are gaining another Peluso - the guy who can replace Chiellini and can be used as LB/LWB, while we arleady have Peluso, Asamoah, DC and even Chiellini for it! 12 fucking milions plus Immobile! Maybe we should offload DC, Isla, Quag and Matri and sign Jovetic finally for 30m? or Give 15m+ Quag/Matri/Storati to Fio?

Signing Graqvist or any other good skilled experienced defender of Serie A is not "investing in quality" ye you right

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then stop talking to me, i'm not going to read ur posts anymore, how can you discuss anything with the other person if you don't even know his whole point? you can't be that stupid

lol
tip: you can use search and it will show you my all posts from this thread.

Name me other defender which can cover all positions in the defense - Lwb, lb, lcb, Sw, rcb, RB, rwb

 

[Nomuken]

Ogbonna would be what Jorge Andrade was supposed to be...just better.

 

[Nenz]

Name me other defender which can cover all positions in the defense - Lwb, lb, lcb, Sw, rcb, RB, rwb

This is what is confusing me. Has Caceres even played in all of those positions with us? And if so for how long and did he play consistently well enough to merit all this praise he's been getting coincidentally as we look to sign Ogbonna? Because to tell you the truth, for someone who watches all our games (sometimes twice over) he hasn't had the same impression on me at all.

 

[Salvo]

Caceres is a great player to have, I love the guy, I don't see why people think he is adequate coverage for three cb positions though. Ogbonna can fill in the left and the center, caceres the right and wb.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

This is what is confusing me. Has Caceres even played in all of those positions with us? And if so for how long and did he play consistently well enough to merit all this praise he's been getting coincidentally as we look to sign Ogbonna? Because to tell you the truth, for someone who watches all our games (sometimes twice over) he hasn't had the same impression on me at all.

No, because we have deep squad, but he is starter for Uruguay national team as LB, plus he played there and played for us as cb and was good, Id like to see him in bonucci place in our starting 11

 

[Salvo]

That would never work, he doesn't have the ball playing ability.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

literally spat my water all over the fucking screen.

 

[Jem83]

:lol

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

That would never work, he doesn't have the ball playing ability.

don't think so, but he can improve this aspect, he is very clever, very good on the headers, i would try him

 

[MikeM]

Oh, and we are losing Immobile $#@! this $#@! im out

You are crying about signing Ogbonna who is the first backup CB but you are crying about losing Immobile who is 156th choice striker.