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Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,412
There is no need to argument over when you were proven wrong. We're talking facts here. Let me give you some examples:
How when you said Conte was arrogant to accept coaching Juve?
How when you said the stadium is an insult to the fans?
How when you said Juventus only buys overrated Italian players?
How when you said we'll never win anything until we get a proven coach?
How when you said we have one of the worst defenses in the league?
I said he was either too confident (stupid) about his coaching abilities, or too sellfish to worry about whats good for Juve.
I couldnt believe at that point that an unproven serie B coach was confident enough to believe that he can achieve the miracle he has achieved, would you??
If you did that was day dreaming, fortunately for us it happened though!
One in a million but it happened, we hit the jackpot, but what would we say if it ended up like Ferrara? Conte would be made stupid or arrogant, knowing him for years, i would say he is not stupid, so you can understand how can one could reach to this conclusion then...

The stadium IS an insult to the fans and as i have said, this will be proved, not now, but in the coming seasons.
And i have explained why, unfortunately, i was right again, as you can see the ticket are already rising and its harder to find a ticket.
Many experts share that opinion and even after our championship, there were articles in goal.com and other sites repeating my opnion, esp considering the long term effects!

I never said ONLY, i said many, at least many more than we should. I do not hate all the Italians, as my haters try to make me look.
I hated the overrated ones, that are garbage quality and are only tolerated because of their nationality.
I also hate the fact that we waste our very limited funds, to buy that garbage.
I named specifically the Italian players i wouldnt want us to sign and Italians players i would want us to buy.
It is not my fault that we only buy the garbage and ignore the Cassanos, Rossis, De Rossis, etc.
This argument is invalid because i like players like Balza, Pazzini, etc, many of most the members here dont, i am not an Italian hater, i hate the early strategy of Ital-Juve that ruined my fav club. Esp as far as the defenders are concerned, as i believe them to be the worst crop Italy ever had!
And this was proved in this euro and is proved on the limited choices we and Milan have.

After changing all those catastrophic coaches we had, it would be EXTREMELY unwise to say otherwise.
I still believe that and i consider Conte an exception that confirms the rule!
I ve been saying that since the moment we sacked Capello, so that still makes me right so many more times, before we hit the jackpot.
Are you happy that it took us so many years to find a proper coach among the garbage?
Would you be happpilly search among garbage if we werent lucky this time either??

For so many years, he had the worse defense in serie A, it was our major weakness, the principle reason most of our coaches failed and many great midfielders failed to have the positive impact they should.
This reason was based upon the fact that we were realying upon weaklings like Molinaro, Grosso, Motta and etc
The management was refusing to invest on the defense and when it happened, we only opted for Italians, because of ItalJuve project and our fetish with CMs and SSs

Thankfully, Licht and Barzagli joined us, Conte saw that weakness and asked for new defenders, Marotta failed to sign a new LB, but even that Conte has changed 50% of our broken defense. Doesnt this prove smth???
THANKFULLY, Conte, the voice of reason has asked for better defenders and they have finally realised that there are no many options among Italians,
Licht, Caceres and Lucio mark the end of ItalJuve project and we can no finally hope for better days in our defence!
And i still believe that Bonucci is a crappy defender and was a crappy defender that costed us many points, at least for the 3/4 of the season.

Having crappy some defenders =/= having crappy defense. Our midfield and our possession football, helped our defense more than everything else, to have a positive end result.
Remember the beginnning of the season and how defensive schemes Conte was using, in order too help our fragile defense??
That actually made my point, i wonder where were you there...

I can write triple a list of things i was right though, but that would make me boring wouldnt it??
And i m sure that my haters would hurry to call me a boaster.
I could also attack you or any of my haters for things that were teriibly wrong and i was right about...

So i will remain modest and i will defend my cause here, do not judge by the BS, BS my haters spit on me.
My points are twisted and taken out of context, half of the things you have accused me off, are not things i ve said, but mockery of my haters, in an effort to defame, it is not my fault because they are stupid and because the forum is not moderated, i am always willing to explain what i mean and make my self clear,
but those trolls are derailing the threads in a degree, that such a thing cannot be achieved and unfortunately, to some members, as it is obviously is your case, only the twisted mud remains and not what i said or meant...
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
123,476
There is no need to argument over when you were proven wrong. We're talking facts here. Let me give you some examples:

How when you said Conte was arrogant to accept coaching Juve?

How when you said the stadium is an insult to the fans?

How when you said Juventus only buys overrated Italian players?

How when you said we'll never win anything until we get a proven coach?

How when you said we have one of the worst defenses in the league?
According to Cronios none of these were wrong, he was right in all these claims.
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
47,928
The stadium IS an insult to the fans and as i have said, this will be proved, not now, but in the coming seasons.
how ignorant are these fans who have already bought 96 percent of season tickets, they dont even realise they are being ridiculed.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
123,476
And the fucker has some guts calling other people trolls, especially Jay. :lol:
He has simply gone too far lately, the poor thing had to deal only with me in the past, lately more and more are realizing what a fool he makes of himself with his well argumented posts.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
77,017
I said he was either too confident (stupid) about his coaching abilities, or too sellfish to worry about whats good for Juve.
I couldnt believe at that point that an unproven serie B coach was confident enough to believe that he can achieve the miracle he has achieved, would you??
If you did that was day dreaming, fortunately for us it happened though!
One in a million but it happened, we hit the jackpot, but what would we say if it ended up like Ferrara? Conte would be made stupid or arrogant, knowing him for years, i would say he is not stupid, so you can understand how can one could reach to this conclusion then...

The stadium IS an insult to the fans and as i have said, this will be proved, not now, but in the coming seasons.
And i have explained why, unfortunately, i was right again, as you can see the ticket are already rising and its harder to find a ticket.
Many experts share that opinion and even after our championship, there were articles in goal.com and other sites repeating my opnion, esp considering the long term effects!

I never said ONLY, i said many, at least many more than we should. I do not hate all the Italians, as my haters try to make me look.
I hated the overrated ones, that are garbage quality and are only tolerated because of their nationality.
I also hate the fact that we waste our very limited funds, to buy that garbage.
I named specifically the Italian players i wouldnt want us to sign and Italians players i would want us to buy.
It is not my fault that we only buy the garbage and ignore the Cassanos, Rossis, De Rossis, etc.
This argument is invalid because i like players like Balza, Pazzini, etc, many of most the members here dont, i am not an Italian hater, i hate the early strategy of Ital-Juve that ruined my fav club. Esp as far as the defenders are concerned, as i believe them to be the worst crop Italy ever had!
And this was proved in this euro and is proved on the limited choices we and Milan have.

After changing all those catastrophic coaches we had, it would be EXTREMELY unwise to say otherwise.
I still believe that and i consider Conte an exception that confirms the rule!
I ve been saying that since the moment we sacked Capello, so that still makes me right so many more times, before we hit the jackpot.
Are you happy that it took us so many years to find a proper coach among the garbage?
Would you be happpilly search among garbage if we werent lucky this time either??

For so many years, he had the worse defense in serie A, it was our major weakness, the principle reason most of our coaches failed and many great midfielders failed to have the positive impact they should.
This reason was based upon the fact that we were realying upon weaklings like Molinaro, Grosso, Motta and etc
The management was refusing to invest on the defense and when it happened, we only opted for Italians, because of ItalJuve project and our fetish with CMs and SSs

Thankfully, Licht and Barzagli joined us, Conte saw that weakness and asked for new defenders, Marotta failed to sign a new LB, but even that Conte has changed 50% of our broken defense. Doesnt this prove smth???
THANKFULLY, Conte, the voice of reason has asked for better defenders and they have finally realised that there are no many options among Italians,
Licht, Caceres and Lucio mark the end of ItalJuve project and we can no finally hope for better days in our defence!
And i still believe that Bonucci is a crappy defender and was a crappy defender that costed us many points, at least for the 3/4 of the season.

Having crappy some defenders =/= having crappy defense. Our midfield and our possession football, helped our defense more than everything else, to have a positive end result.
Remember the beginnning of the season and how defensive schemes Conte was using, in order too help our fragile defense??
That actually made my point, i wonder where were you there...

I can write triple a list of things i was right though, but that would make me boring wouldnt it??
And i m sure that my haters would hurry to call me a boaster.
I could also attack you or any of my haters for things that were teriibly wrong and i was right about...

So i will remain modest and i will defend my cause here, do not judge by the BS, BS my haters spit on me.
My points are twisted and taken out of context, half of the things you have accused me off, are not things i ve said, but mockery of my haters, in an effort to defame, it is not my fault because they are stupid and because the forum is not moderated, i am always willing to explain what i mean and make my self clear,
but those trolls are derailing the threads in a degree, that such a thing cannot be achieved and unfortunately, to some members, as it is obviously is your case, only the twisted mud remains and not what i said or meant...
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,412
I think people will fail to follow you either way.
you would be surprised...
anyway, enough with the off topic talk, anyone who has a personal issue with pm me or a mod.
We have some serious things to discuss on this topic for the coming days, please respect your fellow posters and keep it on topic...
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,689
you would be surprised...
anyway, enough with the off topic talk, anyone who has a personal issue with pm me or a mod.
We have some serious things to discuss on this topic for the coming days, please respect your fellow posters and keep it on topic...
:lol: You're fucking disgusting you know that?
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
123,476
You know, the best and most obvious thing to do with Cronios is to ignore him. Yet the posts are so ridiculous and exaggerated it's very difficult not to reply, in a forum context.
I agree totally with that, I tried but I simply failed after a while.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,689
You know, the best and most obvious thing to do with Cronios is to ignore him. Yet the posts are so ridiculous and exaggerated it's very difficult not to reply, in a forum context.
I have been ignoring him for a long time. I think I never read a post of his until recently. I just wanted to confirm JCK's and Deneb's comments about him being a troll.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
31,786
can you please not pick on cronios. i understand if you disgree but please don't drive one of the pillars of juventuz away.

it's bad enough we lost the quality discussions that badass and maher brought the forum. soon you guys will have us lose another great contributor.

i implore you...don't drive Cronios away.
 

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