Andrea "Il Bruco Brutto" Agnelli (81 Viewers)

[Salvo]

I'm pretty sure the courts said that no one that is associated with juve is under investigation, they are merely getting reports from them in regards to this matter of people with mafia ties buying a lot of tickets and reselling them

 

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[Mark]

we'll look at what we got over here...they can't find/won't release the wiretap conversation showing AA new that some Ultra was with the mafia.
Even if it did exist Juve have nothing to do with this.
anyway, a Senator asked for it yesterday and they didn't want to give it to him. He says it probably doesn't exist.



that Senator is a Juventino. Looking for the REAL truth.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Funny how much calcio and politics go hand in hand in Italy.

 

[zizinho]

This saga

 

[X Æ A-12]

we'll look at what we got over here...they can't find/won't release the wiretap conversation showing AA new that some Ultra was with the mafia.
Even if it did exist Juve have nothing to do with this.
anyway, a Senator asked for it yesterday and they didn't want to give it to him. He says it probably doesn't exist.



that Senator is a Juventino. Looking for the REAL truth.

What a country!

 

[Gep]

Italy doesn't deserve Juve.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I'm still waiting for the day we move to France.

 

[Juvellino]

Even if this turns into nothing it still severely hurts our reputation. When Conte was being investigated my cousin that doesn't even follow football said that he heard Juventus were in trouble for match fixing again. When the Serie B clubs were being investigated for match fixing I remember a basketball writer that doesn't follow football at all reference Italian match fixing. I've played xbox online with people from all over the world and people have said Italian football lost its integrity etc. Its not even just Juve. Constantly accusing and bringing up false scandals or minor scandals hurts Juve's image and Italy's image. And I think it's permanent.

 

[Gigiventus]

Is this serious? I haven't been paying attention to it on the media.

 

[Hydde]

Even if this turns into nothing it still severely hurts our reputation. When Conte was being investigated my cousin that doesn't even follow football said that he heard Juventus were in trouble for match fixing again. When the Serie B clubs were being investigated for match fixing I remember a basketball writer that doesn't follow football at all reference Italian match fixing. I've played xbox online with people from all over the world and people have said Italian football lost its integrity etc. Its not even just Juve. Constantly accusing and bringing up false scandals or minor scandals hurts Juve's image and Italy's image. And I think it's permanent.

Calciopoli damage and its consequences seems to be impossible to revert

 

[Mark]

Is this serious? I haven't been paying attention to it on the media.

no.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Funny how much calcio and politics go hand in hand in Italy.

Banana Republic

 

[am0110]

Italy doesn't deserve Juve.

This x1000
In other countries Juve would be cherished like a national treasure, like a brand, but in Italy...

 

[JuveJay]

To be fair I don't think many other Germans much like Bayern either. Actually I think they hate them, but I could be wrong. Funnily enough no one liked Man Utd in the Fergie era, or Liverpool in the 80s. There might be a correlation.

Us and Bayern are the only two single teams in Europe (notable leagues) who have far and away the strongest domestic record, and they have the benefit of being based in a country that is almost sterile in comparison to the melodramatic, partisan, hateful, bitter and sometimes life-consuming country that Italy is when it comes to their football. When you add hate and nastiness to jealousy it becomes something sinister that steps away from bar talk.

 

[lgorTudor]

To be fair I don't think many other Germans much like Bayern either. Actually I think they hate them, but I could be wrong. Funnily enough no one liked Man Utd in the Fergie era, or Liverpool in the 80s. There might be a correlation.

Us and Bayern are the only two single teams in Europe (notable leagues) who have far and away the strongest domestic record, and they have the benefit of being based in a country that is almost sterile in comparison to the melodramatic, partisan, hateful, bitter and sometimes life-consuming country that Italy is when it comes to their football. When you add hate and nastiness to jealousy it becomes something sinister that steps away from bar talk.

As am0110 correctly stated, Bayern are cherished like a treasure here The reason is because Germany is a meritocracy as opposed to Italy which is a heinous jealous third world banana republic

 

[JuveJay]

As am0110 correctly stated, Bayern are cherished like a treasure here The reason is because Germany is a meritocracy as opposed to Italy which is a heinous jealous third world banana republic

In the general public eye and nationalist view, as opposed to opposition fans? Or is there a grudging admiration even from them? The few German fans of other teams I know always slated them the same way United were for their late goals, dodgy calls and flash image.

You can't even put Italy's madness down to regional bias, because there are juventini everywhere. It's this that riles fans up, there are many juventini in Milan, Rome and Naples and they are seen something like "glories" as we call them in England. Irrelevant when losing, but suddenly despicable when the team beats down all comers.

 

[JCK]

They can't do anything to the club though this time.

This one is a campaign to associate Juventus + Mafia when if fact it's just a case of did AA sell tickets to Ultras being part of the mafia and did he know they were in it.
Some people want you and mostly anti-Juventini think Juventus in infiltrated and working WITH the mafia.

The ordinary justice closed the case and said nothing wrong happened. AA said he never met mafia bosses. Even if he did, the guys in question have no record.

Sporting justice cunts want to raise above the shit they live in with some media and crap on Juve again for the sake of it and try to tarnish the Juve name again.

What can the sporting justice court do? They can relegate us again, right?

 

[am0110]

There is a saying in Bosnia, I will paraphrase it.
"the only thing people wont forgive you is a success".
Sums up Italy nicely.

 

[Mark]

What can the sporting justice court do? They can relegate us again, right?

If they make up new rules.

 

[DAiDEViL]

As am0110 correctly stated, Bayern are cherished like a treasure here The reason is because Germany is a meritocracy as opposed to Italy which is a heinous jealous third world banana republic

I'd say Bayern get as much hate as every other big club, the big difference is the media. Bunch of cocksuckers, especially on CL nights.