Andrea "Il Bruco Brutto" Agnelli (40 Viewers)

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
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The rest of your post is pure speculation. What if we have a good CL campaign this season and win the league? I think that'd play a big part in keeping our star players. I'm sure Agnelli knows it's in his best interest to keep those players because we need the CL money.
Nothing points towards this happening. We lost our coach and we replaced him with a very mediocre coach. Our squads isn't getting any better nor younger.

Altho "good" is subjective. To me "good" is a challenge for the trophy. Then again I grew up supporting Juventus during the Lippi-era.

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I trust in management and their faith in Allegri.

I'm sure Allegri will make us forget about Conte rather quickly due to the impending success on the horizon
Stress, anxiety and depression is known to cause memory loss. I think you are right.
 

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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Agnelli is so entrenched in taking this club to new heights and working with Allegri, Marotta, Paratici that he doesn't even have time to tend to his uni-brow.

Such dedication and devotion towards the club is priceless. I thank all gods and cult leaders that we are blessed with such divine management
Ah, good ol' trolling. Instead of providing the arguments that would support your claim of us becoming the Arsenal of Italy, you choose to piss the rainy acid all over the place.

There are opportunities on the market that are wise to take; even if it means parting ways with one of our best players to make investments into rebuilding our ageing squad. But so far no credible repport sugest that we will. Zidane's departure left plenty of people in fury, but arguably we became stronger and more competitive side as a result of that. There were far worse times that we went through in the past. You only need to look into our books, quality of our current team, infrastructures that we own, to realize the diference. Juventus right now are in infinitely better position than the one 4 years ago, when these guys took over.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
:rofl: Come on! Reus would definitely take us to a higher level. It's not like our midfield would die without Vidal, even our boy Pogby would start playing in his best position.

The rest of your post is pure speculation. What if we have a good CL campaign this season and win the league? I think that'd play a big part in keeping our star players. I'm sure Agnelli knows it's in his best interest to keep those players because we need the CL money.
No, if we lost Vidal and signed Reus it would be a step back. Vidal scored almost as many goals as Reus last season as a B2B midfielder, with all the extra work he does. It's going to require an increase in quality in at least 3 players to make up for the loss of Vidal.

It's not pure speculation, Agnelli said we can't refuse a big offer. How do you know we won't sell one of them this mercato anyway? before any of what you said can come true...
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,182
I swear, some of you weasels must be getting paid by the board, You'd do anything, any fucking thing to defend them, and that is disgusting to the core. I'm sure if the mercato ends with us selling Vidal and/or Pogba, and acquiring over-rated vaginal warts like Cerci and Candreva some fuckers will still praise the board for balancing the books, and spew the whole "next year will be better" BS excuse that has been floating around for eons.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
I swear, some of you weasels must be getting paid by the board, You'd do anything, any fucking thing to defend them, and that is disgusting to the core. I'm sure if the mercato ends with us selling Vidal and/or Pogba, and acquiring over-rated vaginal warts like Cerci and Candreva some fuckers will still praise the board for balancing the books, and spew the whole "next year will be better" BS excuse that has been floating around for eons.
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Oct 26, 2009
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either the management is following a gradual growth strategy (that wasnt fast enough for Conte) and couldnt find anyone but allegri to take the post at such short notice or they chose alegri to actually perform radical changes that will include the sale/retirement of key players and massive restructuring.

The pressure bit is scary though. The environment that this guy has come in is horrible.
The former is the most likely scenario to have happened.....there's no way they are thinking of restructuring the squad with a lesser coach...this is suicide....the fact that they offered him two years contract is a testament to it.... a 'safe' and 'opportunistic' choice commanded to weather the storm and bring the team to safe shores without further damage, while they carefully asses candidates that will work insync with their grand startegy....that's how i see it
 
Jul 1, 2010
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I swear, some of you weasels must be getting paid by the board, You'd do anything, any fucking thing to defend them, and that is disgusting to the core. I'm sure if the mercato ends with us selling Vidal and/or Pogba, and acquiring over-rated vaginal warts like Cerci and Candreva some fuckers will still praise the board for balancing the books, and spew the whole "next year will be better" BS excuse that has been floating around for eons.
That would be disastrous but it's just rumors at this point.

By all means unleash hell if we end up signing either but let's wait :D
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
inb4 someone comes in here and says what do you want? us to go broke? conte probably asked for messi and ronaldo, same for all you, how unrealistic.. brb let me go in the corner and fap over finances :blah:
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,223
The former is the most likely scenario to have happened.....there's no way they are thinking of restructuring the squad with a lesser coach...this is suicide....the fact that they offered him two years contract is a testament to it.... a 'safe' and 'opportunistic' choice commanded to weather the storm and bring the team to safe shores without further damage, while they carefully asses candidates that will work insync with their grand startegy....that's how i see it
It is much easier to believe that they are destroying the team, they are selfish and opportunistic bastards, taking all the profit for themselves, dont care about our well being. It is all part of some evil plan they concieved. Conte was only preventing that to happen earlier, therefore the continual feuds and his public outcries.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,182
What makes you think the management are saints? That epitome of a modern douchebag John Elkaan only cares about his investments and money. He doesn't strike me as someone who actually has love for this club. Lacks passion and heart, unlike his predecessors. He is just a money grubbing greedy self entitled Jew.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
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Nothing points towards this happening. We lost our coach and we replaced him with a very mediocre coach. Our squads isn't getting any better nor younger.

Altho "good" is subjective. To me "good" is a challenge for the trophy. Then again I grew up supporting Juventus during the Lippi-era.

Conte was a nobody when he joined Juve, he even had worse numbers than Allegri. So why not give Allegri the benefit of doubt? Hell, even if we make it to the QF that'd be considered good. At least we wouldn't be losing lots of money for not beating our group.

No, if we lost Vidal and signed Reus it would be a step back. Vidal scored almost as many goals as Reus last season as a B2B midfielder, with all the extra work he does. It's going to require an increase in quality in at least 3 players to make up for the loss of Vidal.

It's not pure speculation, Agnelli said we can't refuse a big offer. How do you know we won't sell one of them this mercato anyway? before any of what you said can come true...
Vidal scored 18 goals and had 5 assists in 42 games while Reus scored 21 goals and had 15 assists in 34 apps. But they can't even be exactly compared if we go by stats since they play different positions. I obviously don't want to sell Arturito but if...

and here comes my second point our management sells one of our star players it would only be to improve our current squad. I said this before, Juve want to make money and in football you do that by improving your squad and being competitive.

Note: I'm not saying we should sell Vidal but I could see why we could do it and why it might be positive.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
It is much easier to believe that they are destroying the team, they are selfish and opportunistic bastards, taking all the profit for themselves, dont care about our well being. It is all part of some evil plan they concieved. Conte was only preventing that to happen earlier, therefore the continual feuds and his public outcries.
appointing allegri as coach definitely points to the opposite
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,223
What makes you think the management are saints? That epitome of a modern douchebag John Elkaan only cares about his investments and money. He doesn't strike me as someone who actually has love for this club. Lacks passion and heart, unlike his predecessors. He is just a money grubbing greedy self entitled Jew.
So we agree that he cares about his investment and for that rason he would like us to become self sufficient club asap, because it woud benefit him in the end. I dont like Elkan btw, but the fact is Exor bailed us in times when we were desperatly lacking funds and most of our team was consisting of mediocre and old players.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
Vidal scored 18 goals and had 5 assists in 42 games while Reus scored 21 goals and had 15 assists in 34 apps. But they can't even be exactly compared if we go by stats since they play different positions. I obviously don't want to sell Arturito but if...

and here comes my second point our management sells one of our star players it would only be to improve our current squad. I said this before, Juve want to make money and in football you do that by improving your squad and being competitive.

Note: I'm not saying we should sell Vidal but I could see why we could do it and why it might be positive.
Arturo brings much more quality than just attacking threat, hence why just Reus wouldn't make up the difference. We would have improve in at least 1-2 other positions to make up the difference in quality that he brings to the team.

The rumoured numbers are for ~50m, that can't buy you shit now. You get one AM for like 35m and what for 15m? some average cm. it's really not worth it to sell unless we get some huge fee like bale money. so far our best buys have been the cheapest ones which really shows that we should not sell them and continue look for good buys like vidal, tevez, llorente, pirlo, barzagli etc and add one top player or so with the money that we do have. it's not like we're going to broke if we don't sell vidal or pogba.
 

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