Analysis of Summer Transfer requirements (6 Viewers)

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white_rabbit

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Apr 9, 2006
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Can anyone guesstimate what they think our summer budget is so we can speculate as to how much will go around on new signings and how much will be generated from offloading players?
As i understand JUve's budget is constant (50mill every year). but if they start selling some players, which they do, then we can go up to 70m. and that should get us 3 proper transfers plus one or two free transfers if secco can pull it off.
 

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Kayo

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Mar 18, 2007
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I believe that our highest priority should be signing good defensive players. DR position clearly needs to be improved and we need to buy a decent player to take over Grygera.

If we now manage to get back Cristico (which I really hope) he could share the DL position with De Ceglie since Molinaro sucks. So this position doesn't really need any signings if our two youngsters manage to reach their potential.

In the center of the defence we already have Chiellini who's great. Legro in the other hand is old and isn't fully fit for every match, plus he isn't much more than a mediocre player. My suggestion for Legro's CB spot would be a signing of a player who has proved himself. Zapata as some mentioned comes to mind, but he could also be risky since most of the players Juventus has bought had some sort of issues adapting to the club and ending up as flops. So with the updated news from the transfer market, I believe Cannavaro will be signed and he might decent enough to fill this spot for a year. So a proved CB signing would be good with Cannavaro and Legro as backup for him.

I think our MC positions are good for the next year. Sissoko and Marchisio are playing good and Tiago (if he doesn't get sold) with Poulsen (even if he sucks) can fill their positions if some of them gets injured.

Things get abit more complicated when we talk about the ML position. Nedved is old and it seems like he will retire at the end of the season, so we really need to find his long searched replacement this year. Diego is an alternative, but since he's a pure AMC Juventus would need to change their playing style to fit him into the system. But Ranieri also stated that he isn't thinking about changing the 4-4-2 style in the near future, so I don't really know how Diego is going to fit into the ML spot if the tactics remain the same. Silva as others mentioned would also be a good singing and would fit far better into a ML spot than Diego. One thing is for sure, we really need to get a decent MR before the other clubs snatch them up in the summer transfer.

I also think that the MR position needs a decent backup for Camoranesi. Camoranesi is still a great player, but suffers from injuries and is also getting old. We can't be sure to know that Camoranesi will be decent next year too, so get someone to fill his spot. Joaquin from Valencia is also decent and has been rumored to be on Juve's transfer list some time now. Oh and Marchionni is crap so I won't speculate why Juventus should depend on him.

The strongest position of the team is the offensive and I believe we have great strikers and backups (Amauri, Del Piero, Iaquinta, Giovinco, Trezeguet). We might even have to sell one of them (most likely Trezeguet, because Iaquinta is a greater run-in backup striker).

Oh and I almost forgot about our GKs. Buffon is great (even if he didn't have his best season) and Manninger is a good back-up. Not to mention Tirante who could be back.

Conclusion: A DR, CB (not counting Cannavaro), ML and a MR.

We should have enough money to fill these gaps since our budget will most likely be near 50 million €. If we manage to get 10 million € for Trezeguet, make that budget 60m €. Not to mention any out of Tiago, Poulsen, Marchionni, Mellberg or Molinaro who could be on their way out.

With these improvements I'm certain that we will recieve far better results in the league and Europe. Specially if we have the spirit that we had in Champions League this year.
 

khalidkassim

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Feb 2, 2007
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If transfers are anything to go by i feel that ranieri is creating a team that will play with 3 cm's , 1 amc and wingbacks that can run up and down the flanks..so hypothetically it could be something like:
Buffon
NEW RB - Cannavaro - Chiellini - Criscito
Camo-Sissoko-Marchisio
Diego
Del Piero - Amauri


Camo is covered by Tiago, Sissoko by Poulsen, Marchisio by Zanetti (or either sub for any position really)
DP and Diego would both be covered by GIO
Iaquinta covers for Amauri or vice versa

There are flaws in this model though as we have to offload a lot of our bench and I doubt are management is looking to be very active on both the selling and buying fronts plus i really would love to see gio play on the flank/free role more
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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Fair points, i personally agree with them and i hope that our board can see them as well, but you should consider a couple of things in your parameters to keep it real:

-Our board has planned to keep CR for one more year. And even if they sack him, they will bring another pawn, willing to obey their orders.
This pawn will not have the authority or the time to change our system, or adjust our transfer strategy. So practically, its like keeping CR anyway.
CR has confirmed that he will keep the 4-4-2 formation
That would mean that we need 2 great wingers and two great fullbacks
and a pair of subs for each position, because our current ones, cannot cope, apparently.
-We must decide what to do with Giovinco and De Ceglie first.
Giovinco has the potential to be a starter, but will he be a LM, AMF or SS??
De Ceglie will be Molinaro's sub, or Criscito will adopt this role and he will be Giovinco's sub as LM?
If we use Molinaro and Criscito as LB, Giovinco and De Ceglie or even Salih as LM, i dont see us buying anymore LBs or LMs
-As long as CR is our coach, Molinaro's place as a starter is guaranteed!
Will Criscito accept to return under those circumstances?? He was extremely frustrated when he came as a sub and he is unlikely to accept a subber role after such a good year.
CR will not give him the chance to start ahead of his favorite player Moli and if Canna arrives too, he will have to compete with Canna, Legro and Mellberg for a place near Chiellini. If Criscito wont come, CR is not willing to give DC a chance at that position, as he has already proven this year!
-With Chiellini, Canna, Mellberg, Legro and possibly Criscito too, we will have 5 players for two positions. I dont see us buying anyone else for that position anytime soon. We covered the wholes we had with quantity, instead of quality.
Since we have so many issues to fix, dont expect any more CBs, if we sign Canna.
-If you follow the pattern every year we sign, a cheap/free defender (Grygera, Mellberg, Canna) and spend the bulk of our transfer fee on our forward line (Iaquinta, Amauri, Cassano) It doesnt matter if we need him or not.
So we are most likely are bound to repeat that.
Since Treze has stated that he will leave if CR stays, i think he is the most probable player to go. We will sell him for a small sum, like 10-12 mil and add circa 15 to get Elkann's favorite Cassano.
This is happening, one way or the other.
So we are left with 30 more million.
-Each year we bring like two players, one free player and one expensive forward.
Our board claimed that we are will bring less players this year, we will start concentrating on quality instead of quantity. So if we bring the two "champions", Canna and Cassano, we will buy just one more, max two players.

Our realistic choice would be to replace Zebina and Marchionni with better choices
and turn Camo and Grygera into subs.
 

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---------delpiero-amauri-----------

-giovinco------------------cassano-

--------marchisio-sissoko-------

-criscito---cannavaro--chiellini--RB?

or

--------------amauri------------

------cassano---------giovinco

---marchisio--sissoko--????
 
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Lo-Pan

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    If transfers are anything to go by i feel that ranieri is creating a team that will play with 3 cm's , 1 amc and wingbacks that can run up and down the flanks..so hypothetically it could be something like:
    Buffon
    NEW RB - Cannavaro - Chiellini - Criscito
    Camo-Sissoko-Marchisio
    Diego
    Del Piero - Amauri


    Camo is covered by Tiago, Sissoko by Poulsen, Marchisio by Zanetti (or either sub for any position really)
    DP and Diego would both be covered by GIO
    Iaquinta covers for Amauri or vice versa

    There are flaws in this model though as we have to offload a lot of our bench and I doubt are management is looking to be very active on both the selling and buying fronts plus i really would love to see gio play on the flank/free role more
    And De Ceglie can play understudy to criscito or even marchisio. Could be interesting to see how he does on the left of a trident central midfield.

    That formation is a delight to ponder. The beauty of it is that diego apparently wants to come to us. He is a player who could well become the next zidane, in terms of his impact at juventus, and on the world stage. So, we have enough money to get him. Lets get him...Then all we need is a decent right back, and we are flying. Everything else is in place.

    I am sure that Ciro Ferrara speaks to Ranieri often about the defensive options we have. And this would include advice regarding the speed of which to bring through the young players...such as de ceglie, ariuado and criscito if he returns. If so, Ranieri must be malleable. I have never been certain that he is determined to choose Molinaro over anyone else who can play there, even when Molinaro is feckless and as useful on the field as a corpse. I just think that Ranieri doesn't rate the others highly enough yet. This could change in the summer, when he is sure to tinker and if the team looks more solid to him with de ceglie or Criscito in the left back role, I am sure he will alter his starting selection accordingly. They have the Summer to show the management team as a whole who is best for the role...Ranieri simply cannot be as blinkered as many people assume. He would not have had the limited success he has had and at Parma, he adopted a far more lively formation than the 4-4-2 which seems his only idea for Juve.

    Much depends on Diego. We can clearly become much more competitive by signing him, adding a solid right back and changing formation. That is just two players. I know that other clubs are interested in the brazillian, but his father has been saying that the lad wants to come to ut, not just once, but repeatedly, and i have read no quotes of him saying that diego wants to go to real madrid, that he sees himself winning the ballon d'or in a real madrid jersey...His father agent making these comments adds weight to the rumours. Not all players and their agents play the guessing game just to up the price of their player. Not all footballers are mercenaries...He can look at his compatriot at Manchester City if he is a mercenary more than a footballer. He can see the glory of chasing solely the money. We can pay him well and afford a decent transfer fee. We need a player of his quality and he wants us. It seems that only a major error on the part of the club could stop this happening now...which is possible, and likely, according to many of the regulars on this board.
     

    Hust

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    Hustini
    May 29, 2005
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    Does anyone think the board might be lying about their transfer budget for the summer? I have a feeling they may be spending more than they claim to be saying. At least they should.
     

    Ahmed

    Principino
    Sep 3, 2006
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    well all I have been hearing from SecCo. is that "we have the money, we will be buying 2 or 3 champions"...so if they are lying about that, then that's a pretty bad sign
     

    Hust

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    Hustini
    May 29, 2005
    93,703
    Lets just start that with Diego please...then work on the other two. One deal to seal is almost too much for them to handle, I can't see them working on multiple deals at one time.
     
    Dec 31, 2008
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    Fuck the news an rumours. Let them make atleast bring in one good player and then ill start beleivung in the board and their promise abt champions and other crap
     
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