Giovinco and Cassano can play in the same team
Yes they can, but not in CR's Juve...
and even so why can't we have more than one creative attacking player in one position.. whether he is in the starting 11 or not?
Just one would have been fine, but we already have 2-3 there...
Big teams need several good players and getting Cassano wont mean we will not get a CB or that it is impossible to get another winger.
It means that we are getting a cheaper/free CB/winger, just like we did before...
Cheap/free players are less likely to be as promising, as the expensive player, because there has to be a reason that they are less wanted in the market...
Cassano is alot like Del Piero who is still awesome but does that mean we as a top club should let a talent like Cassano go just because we have Ale? Do you think Sir Alex will want to let Benzema go because he has Rooney, Bera, Ronaldo and Tevez?
As a top club, we ought to field 11 top players and THEN, try to replace our mediocre subs with high class subs. But we still lack the basics, just look at our defense...
If we are to compete at the highest level in the league and CL we need depth..
We also need quality, actually we need mostly quality and then depth, to win the most competitive teams out there.
Quality will give us supremacy and depth will ensure it, atm we have depth, but we lack quality and this is our announced priority!
If we are lucky and we minimize our injuries, 11 top class players can win us a championship. But as we have seen, so many times, if we only have depth, we cant make the difference and compete with the best...
This is the reason, our season was condemned from the start.
remember the old Juve, we never had Inter's depth, but we had a very competitive first eleven and therefore we could beat them!
When we also had a competitive team and a greater depth, under Cappelo, we could dominate with authority!
ATM, we cant match Inter's depth of two, three world class squads, we should at least be able to field one though...
not depth interms of shitty players like Grygera .. Depth in terms of Top players like Cassanos or Silvas or whoever.
So, is it more important to have top players like Cassanos as depth,
than having shitty starters like Grygeras, Molinaros and Marchionnis??
Because thats our situation now...
I remember a while ago reading news suggesting that we had first option on Cassano. If true, that was surely put in place to forage a path in the future for Cassano to come in as Del Piero's successor.
Then why the heck did we bought Iaquinta and then Amauri???
If we were planning to get Cassano later and already had the option to keep Mutu, Palla and Zalayeta as depth to our world class starters.
Why do we invest the bulk of our transfer budget every year, to bring a new forward?????????????:melayyanandmessi:
why real madrid took a chance on him
They didnt take a chance on him. They do enjoy wasting money here and there, they already had world class coverage for that position.
When ever they have any kind of problems, they just buy one more forward, just for the shake of it. This forum has been laughing at their transfer policy for years,
esp because they never invest on defense and constantly keep adding a new expensive forward to their collection.
But now, we have reached at the point of imitating that behavior
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Even worse, we dont have the excess of funds/resources to succed using the same strategy and def cant happen in Italy.
In Spain the flicks and tricks of the forwards are essential to their football,
because they sacrifice tactics, for the offensive football.
Therefore the big clubs who want to create high class spectacle, are forced to use,
or at least sign such players, only to appease the fans.
The know that direct opponents will also have to do the same and there is some certain amount of balance between them.
But in Italy, if we try to do that with a hollow defense, we are getting as @sses raped...
Cassano is far more robust and also faster. And I for one would be happy to see them sharing a role in attack next season.
DP is not finished, but even if he is finished, we can just rotate Iaquinta, Amauri and Giovinco more. We dont have similar option for any other position within our squad (except the DM/CM maybe) Why would we further fine tune our option here and keep suffering in every other position?? At some perticular position, we dont only lack decent cover, but also a decent first choice option!!!
The only other option for a Del Piero understudy is Giovinco. Yet he has been used, up until this point, as a winger, not as a central attacker with permission to drift to the left a la Del Piero.
CR repeatedly confessed that Giovinco's role is not and will not be a LM and he has also hinted that he considers him as a forward alternative.
We can draw some conclusions from there. And if we buy a dedicated LM then there is only one path for Giovinco...
Cassanowould ruin that, Cassano+LM would bury it...
It seems obvious that Cassano wont be brought in to replace Nedved. He is not a left midfielder. We will surely buy a left midfielder.
Precisely... and where does Giovinco fits here???
The main angst of supporters, regarding the possible purchase of Cassano, appears to be the assumption that the majority of our transfer budget will be spent on him.
I doubt that will happen.
History has already proven that last year, you might have missed my long discussions with Alen, about Amauri and the effects of his acquisition to our transfer budget, but you surely didnt miss the result, didnt you??
We have limited funds, we will bring a champion, a decent player and a couple of squad, free/cheap/already owned players. We should pick our priorities carefully.
We have sacrificed too many resources on subs.
If we buy a new expensive forward, he will either be an expensive sub, or we will turn one of our expensive forward into a sub. At any case, one new expensive sub is added, instead of a new expensive starter!!!
To upgrade our team, we need to replace a mediocre starter, with an expensive one...
The allocation of our funds have been abusive so far!
We will either buy a new quality left midfielder. Silva, Diego or Ribery...or we are changing formation.
If CR had the intention to change the formation, he would have done it this year,
we were hoping for that when we brought Amauri+Giovinco.
CR has proved that he has no intention to do so, for a variety of reasons...
In both those scenarios Cassano will be useful. He will add a layer of quality to our attack, which will certainly give us an edge both home and abroad.
Drogba would be useful too, of course, a quality players can always be useful,
but this is not the case. The case that we have to be optimal and take the maximum advantage from our resources. Having so many luxury top class subs on our bench, while we are using, Grygera, Marchionni, Molinaro and Legro as starters is far from optimal...
I don't see why Cassano, Del Piero and Giovinco cannot co-exist.
They can co exist, its when you sum up Cassano, DP, Amauri, Treze, Iaquinta and Giovinco, for two places, then you have an issue...
If Cassano does come, is one of our forwards is leaving***. Del Piero, Cassano, Trez, Iaquinta, Amauri...5 does seem like one too many.
precisely...
That would prove that the acquisition of Amauri and Iaquinta, both suffered from a lack of vision individually first and then per total. Those two gents also joined us, as the possible successor for the aging DP, signing Cassano to this role, means that they both failed for that role. And signing a new CF next year, when Treze is nearly done, would mean even further damage...
I expect us to sign one of the diego, ribery, silva trio. Also to sign at least one quality addition to the defensive line-up. And that doesn;t include the return of Criscito, who could well line up in the middle or on the left.
Were we to sign Cassano, one of the diego, silva, ribery crowd, a new centre back, like Zuniga, with criscito returning and one of our attackers leaving, ideally, either Trez or Iaquinta (though I like them both immensely)...I would be happy about our prospects for next season.
If we sign Cassano, expect us to sign a free/cheap defender and someone as cheap as Downing to fill Neddy's shoes.
Our board keep repeating that this year, we wont bring many players
and we will bring ONE champion, Juve material player, if thats Cassano, you can imagine what will happen to the rest of our priorities...
Its not that hard to imagine that actually, just follow the pattern of board's transfer choices so far.
We have off loaded Mutu, who was begging to stay in serie b and already accepted a large cut to his salary for 8 mil. And then we paid his salary to Bojinov.
After that we loaned out Zalayeta+Giovinco and used that sum from Mutu and re-allocated funds from other places to sign Iaquinta.
When we could have used that sum, ti buy a more reliable CB or CM/DM
However we preferred Iaquinta, but where that transfer adds to our long term plans?????
Right after that, CL and increased income/prestige allowed us to sign the players we couldnt at the previous years. We already had a stacked up forward line and already paid (Sissoko) for our mistakes in the midfield. Where our real problem lied on our defense mostly and our creative department on the midfield (meaning our wingers)
however we have decided that it is our priority to add one more top class forward, despite deciding to trust Treze and not to sell him and already brought Giovinco back. So we loan Palla, det into the Amauri saga, who depleted, our transfer market attention and the bulk of our cash and bargain chips.
Amauri was brought as a strategical key player, that would add further depth to our forward line and eventually replace the retiring DP.
But wasnt that the reason, we brought Iaquinta in the first place, wasnt that Palla's role?? Isnt it Giovinco's role??? wtf:melayyanandmessi:
We have already spent so much, we have already sacrificed so much
and DP is still here alive and kicking, whilst at all this time we use Molinaro, Grygera and Marchionni as starters and keep abusing the legendary Neddy
and keep expecting from Andrade to return and from Legro to resurrect again...
When exactly do we actually plan to fix those persistent issues???
Those are issues we will face in the future and WE ARE facing at every single time we are fielding a team out there!!!!
We are keep investing on forwards for the day after DP retires
and we fail to see the actual situation on our defense and do smth about it!!!
It is a tragedy to see a player we brought for that role, Iaquinta, to be off loaded
and replaced with a new expensive player, Cassano, while we keep suffering from the same issues.
Neddy's successor should be bought before DP's successor.
Where is he??? We have already bought DP successor twice, we brought 2 for free (Palla,Giovinco) and we have yet seen a Neddy successor...
We are now going to spend our summer transfer budget, for the third consecutive time, on DP's successor, before acquiring Neddy's successor...
We very well know, that we Cassano is treated as the highest priority, just like Amauri was treated as hieghest priority,
we will spend our full negotiating attention on Cassano and the bulk of our budget and transfer planning, based on Doria's wishes...
That would def undermine our efforts to sign the best wingers or defenders we could,
should they been, our number one priorities!!!
The Alonsos will turn into Poulsens, the Militos will turn into Andrades, the Riberys will turn into Downings, the Ebouees will turn into Garcias, only to ensure that the Cassano deal is happening...
We have seen that before, we should know better...
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