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[KB824]

No Goff for us then.

Please get Jack!

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http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-b...l-outsiders-calls-jared-goff-best-qb-prospect

this is interesting

If the Niners are hellbent on taking a QB, and they don't do something stupid such as trade up to #2 to get Goff, or even worse, take Lynch at #7, then Dak Prescott is the guy that they should look at in the 2nd or 3rd round, if they trade back.

Don't use the #7 pick in the 2nd round on him, but if they trade back, then it makes more sense.

 

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[Post Ironic]

If the Niners are hellbent on taking a QB, and they don't do something stupid such as trade up to #2 to get Goff, or even worse, take Lynch at #7, then Dak Prescott is the guy that they should look at in the 2nd or 3rd round, if they trade back.

Don't use the #7 pick in the 2nd round on him, but if they trade back, then it makes more sense.

Cook is currently the best QB in the draft by far, though a few others have higher ceilings as far as potential goes perhaps. Of course, it's highly unlikely he drops to the 2nd round. Really surprising so little coverage of him until Jon Gruden gushed about him as the best QB in the draft recently.

But the guy is a stud. 35-5 college record playing far tougher competition than anyone else in the draft. 5-2 against top 10 teams in CFB. MVP of both the 2013 and 2015 big 10 Championship games. Led MSU to top 6 rankings 3 straight years (first top 6 rankings for the program in like 50 years). Led MSU back from 41-21 4th quarter deficit against Baylor in Cotton Bowl in 2015. and led MSU back from 17-7 deficit against Stanford in Rose Bowl in 2014. Won the Johnny Unitas award last year as nations top QB and led MSU to CFB playoff.

Don't get the lack of overt love for this kid.

Here's a good article on it.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...-is-talking-about-wont-last-long-in-nfl-draft

Would be perfect for the Broncos. A solid-very good QB, with ability to make most throws, and who turns the ball over very infrequently and makes very few mistakes. No off-field issues at all, either. Combine him with Broncos receivers, and that defense...

 

[KB824]

Cook is currently the best QB in the draft by far, though a few others have higher ceilings as far as potential goes perhaps. Of course, it's highly unlikely he drops to the 2nd round. Really surprising so little coverage of him until Jon Gruden gushed about him as the best QB in the draft recently.

But the guy is a stud. 35-5 college record playing far tougher competition than anyone else in the draft. 5-2 against top 10 teams in CFB. MVP of both the 2013 and 2015 big 10 Championship games. Led MSU to top 6 rankings 3 straight years (first top 6 rankings for the program in like 50 years). Led MSU back from 41-21 4th quarter deficit against Baylor in Cotton Bowl in 2015. and led MSU back from 17-7 deficit against Stanford in Rose Bowl in 2014. Won the Johnny Unitas award last year as nations top QB and led MSU to CFB playoff.

Don't get the lack of overt love for this kid.

Here's a good article on it.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...-is-talking-about-wont-last-long-in-nfl-draft

I like Connor Cook. Problem is, he won't be there that early in the 2nd round, and there is no way, unless Baalke WANTS to get fired, that they take him in the first round at #7.

 

[Post Ironic]

I like Connor Cook. Problem is, he won't be there that early in the 2nd round, and there is no way, unless Baalke WANTS to get fired, that they take him in the first round at #7.

The Niners are the one team that should be trading down for either Lynch or Cook imo at pick 15-20. Get a couple extra 2nd-4th round picks out of it, because imo, a lot of needs for you in this draft. You'd get a good QB prospect out of it, plus a few extra picks to fill those needs.

 

[KB824]

The Niners are the one team that should be trading down for either Lynch or Cook imo at pick 15-20. Get a couple extra 2nd-4th round picks out of it, because imo, a lot of needs for you in this draft. You'd get a good QB prospect out of it, plus a few extra picks to fill those needs.

They already have 12 picks, might as well get more

 

[Post Ironic]

12 picks. Had not noticed that. Crazy. 9 of those are after round 3 though. You need more day 1 picks!

 

[KB824]

12 picks. Had not noticed that. Crazy. 9 of those are after round 3 though. You need more day 1 picks!

Yeah, well, I didn't say they were good picks

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Why do I have this sick and stupid feeling that the 49ers are going to trade up to #2 in order to get either Wentz or Goff.

And if that happens, I won't even bother watching the draft. Or the NFL for that matter.

Trading up for one of these two

 

[Salvo]

If the Niners are hellbent on taking a QB, and they don't do something stupid such as trade up to #2 to get Goff, or even worse, take Lynch at #7, then Dak Prescott is the guy that they should look at in the 2nd or 3rd round, if they trade back.

Don't use the #7 pick in the 2nd round on him, but if they trade back, then it makes more sense.

Don't take lynch Dear God. Another athlete with a big arm. No thanks. I would've taken Goff with our pick, if he is gone get BPA

 

[Völler]

Eagles trading up to get #2 pick.

@ALC

 

[KB824]

Eagles trading up to get #2 pick.

@ALC

To get Jared Goff or Carson Wentz


GTFO with that bullshit

 

[Völler]

To get Jared Goff or Carson Wentz


GTFO with that bullshit

It's great. @ALC

 

[KB824]

It's great. @ALC

Those two would have been 3rd and 4th best in last year's draft, and last year's QB class was much worse

 

[acmilan]

So, the Chargers have, for all practical purposes, the #1 pick, while sitting at #3

@ALC

Don't listen to these hate-spewing clownz, mate. It's a risky move but gotta make it unless you want your team to be stuck picking in top 10 year after year ... right next to the Giants and the 9ers

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Those two would have been 3rd and 4th best in last year's draft, and last year's QB class was much worse

Actually, for me the ranking will be like this (in terms of overall ceiling and potential)

1. Wentz
2. Mariota/Goff
.
.
.
.
... Winston

This year, Goff is the safer pick for the Rams, imo; lower ceiling but safer over the next 2-3 years. Considering that move had a lot to do with Snead and Fisher saving their jobs, I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Goff over Wentz.
Either way, the Qb they pick is likely screwed anyway.

P.S. Maybe Pats can pick up Wentz as a FA in 3 years or so and put him back together for post-Brady times :lick:

 

[KB824]

So, the Chargers have, for all practical purposes, the #1 pick, while sitting at #3

@ALC

Don't listen to these hate-spewing clownz, mate. It's a risky move but gotta make it unless you want your team to be stuck picking in top 10 year after year ... right next to the Giants and the 9ers

Please tell me that in any other year except for this one, that one of these two are worth giving up all of those draft picks.

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So, the Chargers have, for all practical purposes, the #1 pick, while sitting at #3

@ALC

Don't listen to these hate-spewing clownz, mate. It's a risky move but gotta make it unless you want your team to be stuck picking in top 10 year after year ... right next to the Giants and the 9ers

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Actually, for me the ranking will be like this (in terms of overall ceiling and potential)

1. Wentz
2. Mariota/Goff
.
.
.
.
... Winston

This year, Goff is the safer pick for the Rams, imo; lower ceiling but safer over the next 2-3 years. Considering that move had a lot to do with Snead and Fisher saving their jobs, I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Goff over Wentz.
Either way, the Qb they pick is likely screwed anyway.

P.S. Maybe Pats can pick up Wentz as a FA in 3 years or so and put him back together for post-Brady times :lick:

Wentz ahead of Mariota and Winston?

OK.

Whatever you say.

Division 1-AA QB with pedestrian stats are better than 2 QB's last year who played at proven schools in proven conferences

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Oh, and he missed time last year too

 

[Salvo]

Goff will be good. Trading up is never worth it though, the amount you have to give up is insane.

 

[KB824]

Goff will be good. Trading up is never worth it though, the amount you have to give up is insane.

Good enough to give up all of those draft picks?

No.


But hey, if they want to give up everything to move up to get one of them, then God bless them.

 

[Salvo]

Good enough to give up all of those draft picks?

No.


But hey, if they want to give up everything to move up to get one of them, then God bless them.

Like I said. Insane

I hope we get Jack.

 

[KB824]

Like I said. Insane

I hope we get Jack.

I hope they trade back.

Know why?

Because some team is going to suddenly get a hard on for Paxton Lynch

 

[Salvo]

I hope they trade back.

Know why?

Because some team is going to suddenly get a hard on for Paxton Lynch

I sure as fuck hope it isn't us.

 

[KB824]

I sure as fuck hope it isn't us.

Me neither.

But if they do trade back and still get Lynch, then it is not so bad.