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Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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So let me see if I get this straight. The first 7 targets that went Welker's way, he had full concentration on, but the one drop, he didn't and that can be directly attributed to him getting engaged the week before the Super Bowl? Are you kidding me here? And besides, Welker had to twist his body around to come up with that pass. It's not as if the pass was right on the numbers and he was caught in stride. That would have been a difficult catch to make, but yes, a catchable ball nonetheless. But don't make it sound like it was a 3 yard bubble screen that he dropped here dude. And why haven't you said anything about the Aaron Hernandez drop on the last drive that was right in his hands, in stride, and had 7-10 yards of open space to run with?

yes you got it straight, and read what i posted above, the drop is the expression of what that exactly, Welker cost the pats the SB hernandez didnt, Welker got engaged the week of the SB hernandez didnt.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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yes you got it straight, and read what i posted above, the drop is the expression of what that exactly, Welker cost the pats the SB hernandez didnt, Welker got engaged the week of the SB hernandez didnt.
Well, that makes absolutely no sense. I would be more inclined to agree with you if Welker had 10 targets and only had 5 receptions. But, he was 7 out of 8 in regards to targets/receptions. I just don't see how that one drop is attributed to him getting engaged, while totally disregarding the other 7 receptions in the process.

Whatever the case may be, the Patriots lost, and that makes most of us here happy. Now, come and give me a hug.

maybe because you are trying to squeeze a +rep out of me? :p
I would rather eat broken glass and wash it down with turpentine than even attempt to get a +rep out of you.


Don't need it, don't want it. my reputation on this forum speaks for itself, thank you very much. :D

I became a Patriots fan :D

Good for you. Now, go and catch some other bandwagons before they pass you by, Pedro.
 

acmilan

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Nov 8, 2005
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I would rather eat broken glass and wash it down with turpentine than even attempt to get a +rep out of you.


Don't need it, don't want it. my reputation on this forum speaks for itself, thank you very much. :D
you are welcome :p ... Deneb, go give him a hug 'cause he for sure needs one ... courtesy of Kyle Williams, no doubt :D
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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you are welcome :p ... Deneb, go give him a hug 'cause he for sure needs one ... courtesy of Kyle Williams, no doubt :D
Just like you, I don't blame one single player for the team's loss.


The fact that they only converted 1 of 13 3rd downs had more to do with them losing than Kyle Williams fumbling that ball.
 
Jul 10, 2006
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frailbodies? he broke a finger tackling, we are also talking about the most sacked QB in the league, id say he and vick are the toughest QBs
:sergio:

I would kill to have Wes Welker in a 49er uniform. Absolutely kill someone to have that happen. Preferrably acmilan
LOL... He's great 16-18 games out of the season. Just make sure Alex Smith isn't throwing to him when you are trying to kill the Super Bowl. :agree::sergio:

Even Reggie Bush knew it's better to tap Kardashian ass than to pop something even resembling a question. :disagree:
LOL... I'm reminded of the Snoop Dogg video someone posted a few days ago...
 
Jul 10, 2006
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a moronic thing to do indeed but apart from that moment he had a pretty decent game, so I doubt he was affected by the engagement thing ... had that been the case, I would have expected him to be piss poor altogether.

Brady's pass to WW wasn't a perfect one either albeit definitely catchable. And Brady/the OC also made that stupid play call for the safety, which proved decisive in the end as to what the giants needed on their last drive - because of the safety, 3 pts and killing the clock worked perfectly for them, otherwise they would have needed a TD and been more rushed, make more mistakes, and maybe not get the TD at all.

All in all, can't single out any one player for the loss, as was with Kyle Williams for the 49ers - the Pats lost to a more talented team ... made one costly mistake and failed to make it a 2-possession game when they had their chances ... on top of paying the price of Gronk being pretty useless.
Life happens ;)
I was going for the Giants, but I find it hard to believe that even the most ardent Giants fan can seriously say that they were more talented.

The Super Bowl featured two very evenly matched teams. What it came down to was the Giants made the plays they had to and the Pats didn't. Welker catches that pass nine out of ten times. I really feel bad for him.

blʘndu;3506051 said:
it was a game of inches, i can't say that the pats were much weaker..it was a 51-49 game.. fucking injuries kept bears from the SB this year
The Bears had a decent team, but they weren't going to the SB even with a clean bill of health.

frailbodies? he broke a finger tackling
Which was retarded. He gets paid too much to tackle.

, we are also talking about the most sacked QB in the league, id say he and vick are the toughest QBs
Most sacked QB in the league... exactly why he wasn't going to the SB, injury or no. :)
 
Jul 10, 2006
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Wait a minute here. How was he not there mentally at 100% , when he caught 7 of the 8 passes targeted his way? Yes, granted, that was a huge drop, but his target/reception ratio far exceeded everyone else's on the team. I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve flak for his drop, but Hernandez was a far bigger culprit in regards to dropped passes. His drop was by far the most inexcusable of them all.
But you don't see Aaron replayed on ESPN 5,000 times every day. :)
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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I was going for the Giants, but I find it hard to believe that even the most ardent Giants fan can seriously say that they were more talented.

The Super Bowl featured two very evenly matched teams. What it came down to was the Giants made the plays they had to and the Pats didn't. Welker catches that pass nine out of ten times. I really feel bad for him.



The Bears had a decent team, but they weren't going to the SB even with a clean bill of health.



Which was retarded. He gets paid too much to tackle.



Most sacked QB in the league... exactly why he wasn't going to the SB, injury or no. :)


WAS most sacked, as in last year, bears were the hottest team in the NFL before that game against the chargers, and of course he needs to tackle if it is to save a TD guess you need to stop watching ESPN to get your opinions :)
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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I was going for the Giants, but I find it hard to believe that even the most ardent Giants fan can seriously say that they were more talented.

The Super Bowl featured two very evenly matched teams. What it came down to was the Giants made the plays they had to and the Pats didn't. Welker catches that pass nine out of ten times. I really feel bad for him.
The only position that the Pats were better at was TE. Otherwise the Giants wr core was wayyy better than the Pats (who had no vertical pass game all season), Giants had the obviously better defense and better rb's.

People can attribute the Giants scheme to the victory against the Pats but you still have to have the players to run that execute said scheme. NE's defense has been a joke since 2005. The moved away from the things that brought them the 3 titles early on and have become an air raid offense with defense as an afterthought.

If you look at how the Giants build their teams then you can understand/justify the results. They build the team from the inside out - o-line and d-line. That is how all great teams are put together and if you look at the Niners and Lions they are doing the same tried and true method which will bring them success in the future. The Pats & Packers both have extremely weak o-lines (defense is a whole other topic).
 

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