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We should definitely keep him. It should be interesting. I like the idea of someone young, an up and comer but someone more experienced I'd be ok with. Are there any other names you like? Rex Ryan, Gase, Shanahan for example.
 

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Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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No. Not at all.

I want someone outside the organization. Fangio is very good at what he does, and that is they way it should be.
harbs is apparently earning the same as he was at the 9ers.

I found this interesting.

With so much energy being spent looking at the personality conflicts that led to the end of Jim Harbaugh's coaching tenure with the 49ers, former quarterback Trent Dilfer cited several football issues.

Dilfer, who won a Super Bowl in 2000 with the Baltimore Ravens and spent the final two years of his career with the 49ers, said on 95.7 The Game that he expects the team to improve next season with Harbaugh gone.

"I'll be shocked if next year's 49ers team isn't better than this year's team," said Dilfer, now an ESPN analyst.

49ers CEO Jed York used his press conference to say he wants his next coach to be a teacher and Dilfer indicated that wasn't a strength of Harbaugh.

San Francisco 49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh speaks to San Francisco 49ers owner Jed York before their NFL game against the Arizona Cardinals at
San Francisco 49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh speaks to San Francisco 49ers owner Jed York before their NFL game against the Arizona Cardinals at Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, Calif., on Sunday, Dec. 28, 2014. (Jose Carlos Fajardo/Bay Area News Group) ( JOSE CARLOS FAJARDO )
"You will hear -- and don't take my word for it, this will happen in the next month -- you will hear a lot of stories coming out of the 49ers building of players feeling like they weren't developed," Dilfer said. "They weren't taught. They didn't become better. They were confused. There was a lack of energy. The work environment was one that was hard to sustain a level of excellence every day.

"Jed and Trent can't say this. I understand it. But there's going be people that will come out and say those things. That's the core of the issue here and the next coach is going to be a guy that can infuse energy and enthusiasm into the building and create a work environment and a culture where everybody feels empowered."

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Dilfer also pointed to Harbaugh's history of maintaining short tenures. He spent just three years at the University of San Diego before moving on to Stanford and his tenures with the Cardinal and 49ers lasted just four years each.

"I get it's really easy to look at the average wins per (season) and Jim did a heck of a job and I've been on record saying that," Dilfer said. "But if you look at how he left Stanford, you look at how he leaves the 49ers, he did a really nice job building, but it was a short tail in terms of success."

Asked for his view on what philosophical differences there could've been between Harbaugh and the front office, Dilfer opined that York and company wanted to change the culture.

When it was suggested that Harbaugh changed the culture to a winning one, Dilfer replied, "Did it win this year? Again, you have to have a long tail in this business. You have to be able to continue to relate to the younger player. You have to continue to inspire. You have to continue to energize and coach your coaches. You have to develop the players that are in your fastball lane, meaning the offensive players if you're Jim Harbaugh.

"He got a lot of credit for developing the quarterbacks, both Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick. But if you really look at their body of work at the end, they never got better in the critical areas of quarterbacking. ... Don't judge them by the stats, judge them by third-down efficiency, red zone productivity, end of halves, end of games -- critical moments when quarterbacking becomes graduate level. And both Alex and Colin did not perform their best in those moments."
 

acmilan

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@Salvo


Just like 4 years ago, when Harbaugh was the one and only candidate that I wanted 4 years ago, I feel confident that McDaniels is the one and only candidate that I want to be the next coach of the 49ers.


I see him as they type of coach who can be a teacher, and sometimes that is what is needed. I don't take too much stock in his only other head coaching tenure at Denver. I believe that he was simply too young and inexperienced 5 years ago.
Some people are made to be HCs, while others, coordinators. I think Josh M is of the latter kind. I'd be interested to see if he has the guts to leave the Pats again - there are expectations/projections within Pats circles that he is being groomed as the Pats next HC once BB calls it a career. That was the case 5 years ago but even more so now. Not sure he would bite the same hand twice and have strong reservations he'll ever be HC material - he is your guy if you want to develop a Qb but not so much when it comes to leading your team.
Should he leave for a second stint at the HC position, I think it would be to Atlanta, not the 49ers. It would take some convincing to make him leave the Pats again and if someone can do that, it would be the two former Patriot execs - Pioli and Dimitroff - manning the Falcons front office (for now).

IMO, Adam Gase would be a better option for the 49ers - very similar in just about every aspect to McDaniels, minus the baggage - if they are indeed looking for someone like that to be their next HC.

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harbs is apparently earning the same as he was at the 9ers.

I found this interesting.
If Dilfer is saying the 9ers will prosper without Harbaugh, then you guys should brace yourselves for another decade of 4-12, 5-11 seasons. The guy is f-ing clueless of a ball-cupper. Wouldn't be shocked if ESPN have already informed him he won't be back next year so he is auditioning for a new job with the 9ers by licking the ownership in all the right places.

you know you are being sold a steaming pile of crap when a 30-something, silver-spooned fed nobody comes out and tries to convince you that Harbaugh is gone because he just wasn't good enough for a franchise that barely remembers it's last SB win. Sure, goo luck with finding another Walsh out there.

that's what happens when non-football people get to make football decisions.
 

Enron

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We should definitely keep him. It should be interesting. I like the idea of someone young, an up and comer but someone more experienced I'd be ok with. Are there any other names you like? Rex Ryan, Gase, Shanahan for example.
Rex Ryan. No one destroys a franchise faster.
 

KB824

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Some people are made to be HCs, while others, coordinators. I think Josh M is of the latter kind. I'd be interested to see if he has the guts to leave the Pats again - there are expectations/projections within Pats circles that he is being groomed as the Pats next HC once BB calls it a career. That was the case 5 years ago but even more so now. Not sure he would bite the same hand twice and have strong reservations he'll ever be HC material - he is your guy if you want to develop a Qb but not so much when it comes to leading your team.
Should he leave for a second stint at the HC position, I think it would be to Atlanta, not the 49ers. It would take some convincing to make him leave the Pats again and if someone can do that, it would be the two former Patriot execs - Pioli and Dimitroff - manning the Falcons front office (for now).

IMO, Adam Gase would be a better option for the 49ers - very similar in just about every aspect to McDaniels, minus the baggage - if they are indeed looking for someone like that to be their next HC.

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If Dilfer is saying the 9ers will prosper without Harbaugh, then you guys should brace yourselves for another decade of 4-12, 5-11 seasons. The guy is f-ing clueless of a ball-cupper. Wouldn't be shocked if ESPN have already informed him he won't be back next year so he is auditioning for a new job with the 9ers by licking the ownership in all the right places.

you know you are being sold a steaming pile of crap when a 30-something, silver-spooned fed nobody comes out and tries to convince you that Harbaugh is gone because he just wasn't good enough for a franchise that barely remembers it's last SB win. Sure, goo luck with finding another Walsh out there.

that's what happens when non-football people get to make football decisions.
I just don't want a defensive head coach. Defense isn't the problem on this team, even with all the injuries and suspensions they had on that side of the ball.

I want a coach who can teach. Be it a McDaniels or a Gase.
 

acmilan

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Rex is a top-notch defensive coach but gets overwhelmed with putting it all together in building a team, which is what a good HC needs to do, in the end of the day. In order to succeed as a HC, he needs to have everything else, besides the D, already taken care of for him - everything on O, QB development, roster and coaching staff management, drafting, etc, etc. That's hardly a situation one can find for a sustained period of time in the real world. He did well at the Jets in the beginning because just about the entire infrastructure of that team had been already put together for him by Mangini. Once enough time had passed so Ryan's touch could be felt, it all went to shit for them.
 

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What do you hope Giants do in the offseason? New defensive coordinator? Special team?
Def coordinator Perry Fewell is gone.

We build through the draft and we are in a transitionary state with the o-line.

The defense is my biggest concern because we have struggled every year since Steve Spagnola left. It will be a tough task to replace and rebuild that side of the ball.

But I'm glad Reese is returning, Coughlin will leave after next season.

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Suh won the appeal and is allowed to play against Dallas. :D
Just made my day
 

acmilan

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Suh won the appeal and is allowed to play against Dallas. :D
Well done, NFL, I am sure it will have a great effect on him from now on.

GO COWBOYS !!!

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hope lions meet the packers again in the POs, and suh proper stomps on rogers's ankle this time "discount double step"
So much envy and frustration here - how is it Rodgers' fault you guys are stuck with Cutler? :D
 

GordoDeCentral

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Well done, NFL, I am sure it will have a great effect on him from now on.

GO COWBOYS !!!

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So much envy and frustration here - how is it Rodgers' fault you guys are stuck with Cutler? :D

...and then he ends brady's career :heart: it's called NFL's oldest rivalry, but you wouldnt know about that since you didnt even know football before 02
 

acmilan

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...and then he ends brady's career :heart: it's called NFL's oldest rivalry, but you wouldnt know about that since you didnt even know football before 02
Aaauuuu, so much envy and frustration here - how is it my fault that you guys are stuck with Cutler? :D

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Fuck the cowboys and the pats
what you were looking for there was "Fuck Jed York" :p
Don't worry, you'll get there eventually :D
 

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