Amauri "The Immovable Object" Carvalho de Oliveira (27 Viewers)

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
38,737
Be careful Alen. You wouldn't want people to call you biased with an agenda and go tell you to bitch in another thread or claim you are blaming our seasons failure on one player.

And yeah, I forgot Diego in my "unbiased" criticisms. Thank you for pointing that out and having the balls to say it. I can't wait to hear the excuses.
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king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Clearly we have the majority against a useless Amauri. Sure, you can assume I am blaming the loss on him but if any of you pro-Amauri's can quote a post claiming I blame him 100% for our loss I would be glad to see it.

Only 15 mins and it is wrong to blame him for a another bad performance? Why don't you know-it-alls go ahead and chalk up all the other scoreless, underperforming, waste of a position in our lineup performances he has had? I am willing to bet it is close to a 1000mins if not much more. But go ahead, make excuses.

Deneb, Andy, and Nicholas...I would love to hear you alibis to warrant this players position in our team. I have no problem criticisming other players and its pretty fucked up for you all to say that I don't. That's total bullshit, when I have I onced called any of you a joke or told you to go bitch in another thread? I am free to criticise whom ever I wish just like I do Melo, Sissoko, DP, Canna, Grosso and all the other fucking amateurs we have on this team. You all blame players performances and you all have your ideas on who sucks in our team, right? So why the hell is it a crime for me to blame a player that sucks just as bad as the others you all criticise too?

Sure call me biased I don't really care. Andy you hate Canna and Grosso, I could call you biased against them, Nicholas goes for you too with the players you dislike but you don't see me hounding your posts do you?

I am suprised considering some of you stand up for being able to criticise players on this team when mods are against it and trying to control it but yet I get side-swiped when I do the exact thing you guys want to allow on the forums. Thanks.

Forza Amauri, a real class act.

Same goes for Sissoko a real mentally strong player with acute passing, the never ending consistency we get from Zebina, and the luxury we have of having Grosso with the never ending experience he gives us from the world cup, Melo totally warranting his 25m price tag, DP for all his 7 goals, IQ for being so strong because that's exactly what we pay him for, Legro for moving slower than a bus, Canna for being a traitor...blah blah blah. Clearly I am biased and hold aboslutely no judgement on any other players because I have never once posted or criticized against any of them before. Not one of the 9000+ posts I have will show that will they because you 3 clearly read every single one.
Most of the criticism Amauri gets is very well deserved and I've been agreed with you many times you've criticized his performances but he gets many undeserved bashings too even when he's the last one to blame. All I'm saying is that taking this season into consideration for judging the players such as Amauri, Melo, Sissoko and Diego who are potentially good but have had bad seasons is not true.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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You just criticize when it isn't warranted, Cam. That's what people have a problem with. Sure, I hate Canna and Grosso, but I have in the past given them credit when they play well. But what I don't do is automatically head to their threads whenever we lose regardless of how they play, or even if they barely played at all, every single weekend.

People don't understand there is only so little a forward like Amauri can do when the midfield isn't functioning and creating decent chances for him. He might not be worth the money we paid for him but there is no question he is the main scapegoat around here.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
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Most of the criticism Amauri gets is very well deserved and I've been agreed with you many times you've criticized his performances but he gets many undeserved bashings too even when he's the last one to blame. All I'm saying is that taking this season into consideration for judging the players such as Amauri, Melo, Sissoko and Diego who are potentially good but have had bad seasons is not true.
Players, not just Amauri, have been criticized all season long. I don't see the problem.
You just criticize when it isn't warranted, Cam. That's what people have a problem with. Sure, I hate Canna and Grosso, but I have in the past given them credit when they play well. But what I don't do is automatically head to their threads whenever we lose regardless of how they play, or even if they barely played at all, every single weekend.

People don't understand there is only so little a forward like Amauri can do when the midfield isn't functioning and creating decent chances for him. He might not be worth the money we paid for him but there is no question he is the main scapegoat around here.
He does no justice for himself by not creating space for himself or the team. His back is no more than a book for the goalie to read every game. When you don't move and play with your back to goal all game it's hard to score. Ask DP/Trez who have more goals with a lot less playing time. They will tell you how to score.
Hustini = Inter fan.
I will never be mad at you no matter how hard you try.
Amauri should be judged on his overall career with Juve:

verdict

Not good enough.
Yep.
Probably so.

But there is a long list of players who haven't been good enough.

That's a major problem.
Ok, and the criticism that they get is also deserved, right?

I wish you all would get it out of your head that I'm blaming the season on Amauri.
 

Red

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Moderator
Nov 26, 2006
47,024
Amauri can't defend?

So what? He's a forward.

I can understand a lot of the criticism he gets for his lack of goals, even if I don't always agree with it, but I can't understand criticising a forward for being a bit rash in going in for a challenge.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,946
He does no justice for himself by not creating space for himself or the team. His back is no more than a book for the goalie to read every game. When you don't move and play with your back to goal all game it's hard to score. Ask DP/Trez who have more goals with a lot less playing time. They will tell you how to score.
This post right here shows you don't understand the situation.

Amauri's playing style has always been about holding up the ball. He's a target man. Considering his role, he does usually play with his back towards goal because a lot of the time that's what a target man has to do.

Then once you throw in the fact that much of our play comes from booting the ball forward, along with very few ideas and sustained attacking pressure from midfield, Amauri has to have his back towards goal to be useful for an outlet pass. We have little width, so it's not like he's going to get service that way. Perhaps he should make a few more through runs, but he isn't all that pacy of a striker.

Trezeguet and Del Piero are obviously better than Amauri, nobody is contesting that, so why bring it up?

It's like going into the Del Piero thread and saying Maradona could teach Ale a thing or two.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Err try again. Trez and DP get the exact same service, in fact DP can at least do something with his fancy footwork. Drawing fouls does more for our team than Amauri holding the ball up. Trez is much smarter than Amauri ever will be.

Why is it that Chiellini can score? Because he gets better service? Ha ok, even our defenders know how to position themselves into scoring positions than our own striker does. I think our defenders get more shots on goal than he does.

LOL, ok so I'm a retard that can't see Amauri needs decent service. I guess you probably cringe at the idea of actually moving into space to get a thru ball.....if Amauri's role is to hold the ball up he sucks at it quite frankly with lousy first touches and fouling the defenders trying to get the ball. What kind of service does this guy need actually in order to avoid his donkey first touch and horrible positioning and lousy movement.

This buy is nothing more than a strike out with 2 outs bottom of the ninth with bases loaded. Game over. Next mercato please
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Trez is a poacher who naturally gets in better positions because he's one of the best in the world at it, or IMO, the best. Del Piero creates a lot of the magic for himself because he's just that good. But it's not like these guys have been scoring consistently either.

Chiellini and Legro are monsters in the air on set pieces. Much of our goals seem to come from set pieces or just after set pieces.

When was the last time Trezeguet scored in Serie A? Ow right, December. Yet he never receives any stick for it.

We get it. You hate Amauri. Good for you.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I will come back to this thread the next time Amauri scores. That way you can all revel in your "I told you so's" to Hustini.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I certainly don't feel the love tonight. God forbid someone has an opinion against the norm and decides to stick with it.
 
Sep 1, 2002
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really who are the players stuck on base?? who did let down exactly? are you saying our team would be better with david villa in front? coz if you are you really are clueless
To suggest that this team wouldn't be improved by having David Villa lead the line instead of Amauri is absurd to say the least. Of course the would be a much better team.


Juve spent the big money hoping to get a Ferrari, but ended up with a Skoda.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,946
And again, where would the service come from?

If David doesn't get service how could Villa score?

Come on, this isn't that hard here.

This team creates as many chances as Urkel in a Chicago beauty pageant.
 

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