Amauri "The Immovable Object" Carvalho de Oliveira (19 Viewers)

[.zero]

I've consistently stated Amauri has not played well or up to par -- just search my posts in this thread.

But the drivel written in this thread makes me defend him.

i agree that constant nonsense is annoying especially when people harp on irrelevant things like the man's hair style and what not. its the same story with any player that doesn't play well and this trend will occur again.

but that doesn't mean that i forgot that in his first few months here he was good. we know what he can do and thats what is pissing me off in the duration of this cold streak

 

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How come nobody raps on Tiago's hair? He sucks and he looks like a bitch

 

[.zero]

It's stuff like having "Amauri = Fail" in folks' accounts that confirms Amauri is a scapegoat. In some ways, that's all I need to confirm my suspicions.

your assumption is that he is a scapegoat, not mine

no one is blaming him for anything except his own performances. and my title has nothing to do with the team, its about amauri.

 

[Hist]

Iaquinta is a good bench player to have though. I'll certainly give him that.

But he misses more chances than Amauri.

I dont think so. Unlike Amauri IQ can use his feet in scoring and actually muscles the ball out of opposition.
Also IQ gets way less playing time yet scores. Amauri Plays every damn match and doesnt score.

and most importantly, IQ knows that he isn't the best dribbler nor the best ball passer and so he does not lose the ball and act like he is Ibrahimovic every time defenders run at him. Amauri always over rates his passing and dribbling abilities which are almost non-existent.

 

[Hist]

but that doesn't mean that i forgot that in his first few months here he was good. we know what he can do

Amauri was good because he was fed the ball to his head right in front of goal.
I said this before and i will say it again. Amauri is not great in holding up the ball and pulling mid fielders in the front row. He is a terrible passer and cannot keep possession at all.
However, he is superb at scoring headers... and lots of them. Re-watch last year's goals and you'll see that a great majority of the goals were headers. (easy ones and hard ones) and i give him credit for this ability.
Ranieri saw this in him and so most our attempts were crosses to amauri's head. even marchionni created assists thanks to amauri's headers.


Ciro should Utilize Amauri's biggest and only strength which is his heading ability.

Feed him to the head at close range to the goal and he will deliver.. thats a certainty!

If Ciro keeps treating him like he is Ibra he will consistency fail like he is doing now. GIVE THE BALL TO HIS FUCKING HEAD OR PLAY ANOTHER STRIKER.

 

[di_vladi]

9 years passed and still Del Piero - Trezeguet is our best option in attack.

 

[Salvo]

amauri is better technically that IQ, and he can dribble, im not going to say players are useless till this team starts playing well and some dont perform.

 

[Hist]

amauri is better technically that IQ, and he can dribble, im not going to say players are useless till this team starts playing well and some dont perform.

He isn't.. he just gives the impression that he can with all the body movements he does. But whenever he tries he almost always fails. IQ doesn't act like he can, he just chooses the easy way out and gives the ball to someone else or muscles himself out of the situation.

IQ has been constantly performing whenever he was on the pitch until he got injured.
Even Amauri's goal by feet was an assist by IQ when he gifted the goal for him to break the drought.

what we are asking amauri of now is liking asking giovinco to score headers.

We have seen how amauri was on fire when the game style suited his strengths. and we now have much better crossers than before. we have diego, camo, gio, grosso, cacares all can cross quite well in compraison with molinaro, grygera and marchionni

 

[Salvo]

He isn't.. he just gives the impression that he can with all the body movements he does. But whenever he tries he almost always fails. IQ doesn't act like he can, he just chooses the easy way out and gives the ball to someone else or muscles himself out of the situation.

IQ has been constantly performing whenever he was on the pitch until he got injured.
Even Amauri's goal by feet was an assist by IQ when he gifted the goal for him to break the drought.

are you serious?

 

[Hist]

are you serious?

yes... he just acts like he is but he is not.
perhaps he is SLIGHTLY more technical.. but not to an extent that would stand out and make me pick him over IQ. and he is definitely one of the worst dribblers ever.

I say, if he is our attacking option then we focus on his strength that we have seen effective last year and that is his head. What do you think about that?

 

[Salvo]

he is still good with his feet though, he isnt a bad dribbler either.

 

[Lo-Pan]

Iaquinta admittedly misses many more chances than Amauri, but he also creates far more chances, through HIS OWN STEAM. That is the defining difference between them. Iaquinta is much harder to defend against because he has greater drive, strength and heart than Amauri.

As to Amauri's heading expertise. i completely concur. And those skills could be well used in a 4-4-2 with wingers, but not in a system which demands the forwards receive the ball to their feet far more than to their heads...

 

[Bjerknes]

Amauri is the stronger player than Iaquinta, the latter is just faster.

 

[K.O.]

Iaquinta admittedly misses many more chances than Amauri, but he also creates far more chances, through HIS OWN STEAM. That is the defining difference between them. Iaquinta is much harder to defend against because he has greater drive, strength and heart than Amauri.

As to Amauri's heading expertise. i completely concur. And those skills could be well used in a 4-4-2 with wingers, but not in a system which demands the forwards receive the ball to their feet far more than to their heads...

totally agree

Word, weedguru, you hit the nail on the head.

 

[Bjerknes]

But that's not entirely true though. When the team is functioning, Amauri's physical presence on the ball draws defenders away with him, opening up space for others to delve into. That creates tons of chances. Too bad last year we didn't have a very mobile, creative system with better players in it. Marchionni and an aged Nedved were not up to par.

 

[Hist]

But that's not entirely true though. When the team is functioning, Amauri's physical presence on the ball draws defenders away with him, opening up space for others to delve into. That creates tons of chances. Too bad last year we didn't have a very mobile, creative system with better players in it. Marchionni and an aged Nedved were not up to par.

nedved


seriously though, even if you think that Amauri's physical presence is more than IQ's.. you don't deny that amauri loses the ball way more frequently than IQ, right?

that renders his physical presence with the ball less useful. Maybe without the ball Amauri is more troublesome... then again both mostly suck at positioning.

 

[Bjerknes]

nedved


seriously though, even if you think that Amauri's physical presence is more than IQ's.. you don't deny that amauri loses the ball way more frequently than IQ, right?

that renders his physical presence with the ball less useful. Maybe without the ball Amauri is more troublesome... then again both mostly suck at positioning.

Amauri didn't lose the ball much when he was on form last year, so no, I don't really agree with that. I rate an in-form Amauri far more than an in-form Iaquinta.

 

[icemaη]

We haven't seen an in-form Amauri for almost an year now. I thought when he scored the goal (vs Fiorentina I guess) when he broke his no-scoring streak that he'd come back stronger and start scoring again. Instead we have Trezeguet who seems to be scoring more often. Iaquinta misses more chances, but he also scores more. I can live with that, especially seeing that he plays much lesser number of matches that Amauri. An in-form Amauri is definitely greater than an in-form Iaquinta. But how long will we wait for him to get back to form. Its been ages already.

 

[Hist]

Amauri didn't lose the ball much when he was on form last year,

that was exactly my initial point... Amauri was on form because the ball was fed to his head through crosses. He didnt have to do much dribbling and he didnt have to do much running with the ball or passing. He stuck to what he knows best and that is Headers and he was superb at it.

In Ranieri's system I would agree with you that Amauri is better than IQ. But in the current system I would pick IQ because he isnt so on dimensional as Amauri.

We obviously cannot go back to the 4-4-2 system of ranieri and i wouldnt recommend it but i think it showed a great aspect of Amauri's abilities.

And so i would suggest that if we utilize the 4-3-1-2 system and play amauri, we should put the work load of passing and building up play on Diego, Marchisio and the other striker next to Amauri (DP or Gio). Thus limiting Amauri's role to scoring headers and easy sitters. Grosso & cacares too, can occasionally do some crosses aimed at amauri's head.

Most our attack would be coming from the left (Marchisio + Dp/gio) and middle (Diego) . I would keep melo and sissoko from going too much forward and urge the full backs to provide support when they are in good enough form to do so. Add to this, del piero taking direct free kicks and diego taking indirect ones and corner kicks and i think we would have a good amount of goals and a stable midfield.

what do you generally think about this?



Edit: atleast that would be our game plan as we seriously lack one.. i always get the feeling that we have no philosophy of what we will do on the pitch. Get a game plan with clear instructions for every player about their roles and what exactly to do and Moments of free magic will occasionally arise when you have creative minds like DP and Diego

 

[Salvo]

We haven't seen an in-form Amauri for almost an year now. I thought when he scored the goal (vs Fiorentina I guess) when he broke his no-scoring streak that he'd come back stronger and start scoring again. Instead we have Trezeguet who seems to be scoring more often. Iaquinta misses more chances, but he also scores more. I can live with that, especially seeing that he plays much lesser number of matches that Amauri. An in-form Amauri is definitely greater than an in-form Iaquinta. But how long will we wait for him to get back to form. Its been ages already.

ill judge him when the team is in form.

he is a talented player no doubt.